Vampire hunter D upgrade?

[Lord-Of-Creation]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/93897#17 They have thousands if not infinite universes. Should we upgrade them?

 

[X8Azazel8X]

These are the pages I was talking about. The generals themslves have hundreds of these actual stars burning at 6 million degree heat that is shunted into another universe. Each medal corresponding and representing how many universes there are. The generals medals measure in the hundreds over a thousand for them. Their forces earn many times their number in valor being involved in more conflicts than them all together. The one awarding them can generate as many of these medals as they please.


The universes count well over a thousad and can be considred an infinite amount.

 

[Lord-Of-Creation]

Great job with the scans man.

Now we have to wait for the admins to approve before upgrading the characters.

 

[X8Azazel8X]

Thanks. Yea. There are as many universes as there are stars in the sky.......

 

[Antvasima]

Please redo your first post with a summary of your arguments, not with a link to a muddled thread elsewhere.

 

[Antvasima]

Also, I see no proof in the scans above of any of the characters being able to destroy or create more than 1000 spacetime continuums at once.

 

[X8Azazel8X]

what? lol please read and understand more closely. We are examining how many universes there are in the multi-verse, not how many these characters presented can destroy.

The akashic record records all creation and with them all of it can be changed and modified as seen fit. If there are an infinite amount of universe then any one using them can create or destroy an infinite amount.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I see no proof of infinite universes above either, or of the Akashic Record specifically being referred to as able to affect an entire multiverse. "All of creation" is recurrently used to refer to single creations/universes.

 

[X8Azazel8X]

I didn't put anything about the Akshic Recrod because It was already up here and people ranked them based on the Record already. So I thought that was settled before I got here some where.

Again if you read it it says each sun medal represents a star that is being shunted into another universe worn by them. through out the army there are countless already given out, and they can generate an infinite amount more for future awards.

The context is that there are as many universes as there are stars in the sky.

 

[MethodMan11]

Creation is refured to as everything in vampire hunter D.

Considering characters have crossed distances of more then 1 universe it would be ridculous to only asume 1 universe.

 

[MethodMan11]

I didn't put anything about the Akshic Recrod because It was already up here and people ranked them based on the Record already. So I thought that was settled before I got here some where.
Again if you read it it says each sun medal represents a star that is being shunted into another universe worn by them. through out the army there are countless already given out, and they can generate an infinite amount more for future awards.

The context is that there are as many universes as there are stars in the sky.

This is litterally said in the story. Denying proof of this would be ridculous. Also considering there have been characters which come from other universes, it would be pretty silly to just say "Lol onne universe"

 

[Antvasima]

We still need explicit proof, not speculation. All that is said in the scans above is that there are a hundred medals that shunt their star level heat into another universe. That's it.

 

[MethodMan11]

We still need explicit proof, not speculation. All that is said in the scans above is that there are a hundred medals that shunt the heat from the stars into another universe. That's it.

What, are we reading the same scan?

Not only does the context of the story, but the legitment fact that it says each star shows a new universe but just saying it shunts heat? This is pretty bad downplay. I casually read these books and saying that this is not stating other universes exist is pure strawman

 

[Antvasima]

I am busy with the daily backlog, and don't have the energy to do both that and arguing back and forth, but again, all that is said in the scans above is that there exists another universe to which the heat from the medals is shunted. That is it. It is entirely possible that there exists proof elsewhere, but it is not above, and my job is to not accept upgrades until such proof is shown. Thank you.

 

[Darkness552]

there are other universes but it does not actually state there are infinite universes

 

[MethodMan11]

^My point. But don't care enough to argue so meh

 

[Antvasima]

If the Akashic Records are stared to be able to affect many universes, then it is due for an upgrade, but we need proof for how many universes that it can affect.

 

[X8Azazel8X]

I could put more up but it basically says with them you can create or erase anything from all creation using them. Anything recorded can be modified in it. They speak of this universe because the story focusses on this through out. But Greylancer reveals there are infinite universes as there are stars in the sky. The record having the abilty to erase or add to all creation can create or destroy infinite universes.

 

[Darkness552]

if the universes are based on how many stars in the sky i do doubt there were infinite stars although we could get a number from it

 

[Sheoth]

A possibly 2-B rating could maybe work...

 

[Antvasima]

There aren't anywhere near as many stars in the sky as 10^500. There aren't even anywhere near as many elementary particles in the universe as 10^500.

 

[Darkness552]

in our observable universe it is estimated there are 7 x 10^22 stars (70 billion trillion)

source

 

[Antvasima]

Also, as you said, all that is stated about the Akashic Record in the first scan is that it records everything in the universe. We need a statement or other proof that it records everything in the multiverse.

 

[X8Azazel8X]

if the universes are based on how many stars in the sky i do doubt there were infinite stars although we could get a number from it

They can create an infinite amount of medals each one shunting the energy into another universe. There are stars being formed and dying for ever in the sky. You can't get a finite number from them.

 

[Antvasima]

Proof please.

 

[X8Azazel8X]

Proof please.

of?

 

[Antvasima]

Of the infinite number of medals, and each being connected to a different universe, not the same one.

 

[X8Azazel8X]

Its said in the story. Each one is connected to another universe. Not each one is connected to the same universe.

They are constantly awarding more as there are battles.

The key word is shunted, which means connected to, so they are connected to another universe.

 

[Antvasima]

I didn't see any specific mention of them being connected to different universes. It seems unnecessary as well. One universe for all of them should be enough to shunt the heat into.

 

[X8Azazel8X]

They never do only what is necessary. The narrative of the story is their over abundance and opulent nature. The Nobility is described as having mastered space. They can compact infinite space into a finite space, have created an entire reality inside an android where the child they treasure can grow up with out fear of sunlight, created infinite dimensions inside their coffin where many just decided to live in there. It's never a matter of what seems like it should be enough, which is why this example is speaking to that effect literally.

Believe what you want though but the intent in the writing is there.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, as usual, given that we are not familiar with the franchise, we still need proof, not speculation, to confirm what you are saying.

 

[Lord-Of-Creation]

created infinite dimensions inside their coffin where many just decided to live in there.

Do you mean spatial dimensions or do you mean more like pocket universes?

 

[Davy0]

Not gonna beat around the bush here. Be careful, this is the same guy who was trying to create those Getbacker profiles and talked about how characters leaping over an infinite void which obviously had to have a "stop" to do so otherwise it was a hyperbole, wasn't a hyperbole. That's all I'm gonna say, And also, the Getbacker Fiasco. Make sure to thoroughly check the information he gives.

 

[Antvasima]

True enough. And he also disrespects the rules of the site by creating sockpuppet identities.

 

[Antvasima]

Btw: Davy, Could you check through the Vampire Hunter D pages for possible blatantly inaccurate hyperbole statements and structure errors please? I am kind of busy at the moment.

 

[Davy0]

I can do that, though I don't read the series at all. Logic dictates efforts.

 

[Davy0]

Read through it at hypersonic speed, nothing apparent pops out. I do know from other sources that Vampire Hunter is a powerful and hax verse, though it's not my cup of tea so I'm not willing to read through it.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I previously fixed the blatantly exaggerated speed tiers.

 

[Davy0]

Lol.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, outspeeding attacks launched at the speed of light is not automatically MFTL+, much less Infinite or Immeasurable.