No she isn’t, she's comparable. The feat by itself is sufficient proof of that and her calling it fast doesn’t necessarily mean she's slower than it. Although at this point such concerns with the calc are more about scaling that actual math stuff, more fitting of a CRT.
We currently accept Uraume to be 4 times faster than Piercing Blood in reaction speed and chainscale her to Kenjaku
who is blatantly and consistently shown to be faster than Piercing Blood. You not liking that is not my threads concern.
Uraume quite blatantly is not comparable in any sense.
The only thing that you have saying they're comparable is that they blocked it in close proximity, when it was fired 6 meters away and she just started to block it when it got close to her.
This wasn't even like Kenjakus where there is more argument due to him smiling at the attack and proving a point, it got shot in her face, she started to react when it got close (which means that it's even worse than Subsonic+ reactions), then narrowly blocked it, then instantly said it was "fast".
The reason for why the thread of dodging punches is considered as equals and relative is because they are in close proximity punching and dodging moves from characters relative to them from less than a meter away. Reacting to sound a meter away gets you speed of sound reactions. Reacting to it 2 meters away gets you subsonic+. Reacting to it 6 meters away gets you subsonic.
I made an entire thread about stuff like this for this exact reason, because there's absolutely no reason why someone has reaction time several times faster than something they couldn't block or dodge.
Uraume barely blocked something fired from 6 meters away and called it fast. You cannot sit here and try to argue Uraume is comparable just to get a mini "compromise" based on the other thread.
Uraume has quite literally 0 scaling to Kenjaku that is accepted, and even regarding disagreed scaling, she has no scaling to Kenjaku in the manga either, so I don't know why the hell uraume scales to be 4x faster. And if Uraume scaled 4x faster, she wouldn't be getting semi offguarded by a charged up attack she watched charge that was 4x slower than her moving in a straight path from 6 meters away that she's capable of aimdodging that she called fast.
Your calc is not correct. Uraume did not move the moment Piercing Blood was shot at her, she blocked it at the last moment. I get that you disagree with the result the calc gets, but that doesn’t mean you can go and apply a higher timeframe that isnt actually accurate in order to get a lower end that fits what you want.
In a pure mathematical sense my calc is correct, however it gets a result that can be considered inconsistent due to the punch dodging rule. I can get that. However, what that means is that the result isn’t usable, not that it isn’t mathematically correct and should be changed to purposely get a lower result.
And let's not just say this feat isn’t valid because it's like
Yuji's feat. Yuji has two whole pages clarifying that he is still slower than the damm attack. He is straight up stated to not be able to properly react to it, having to go off of pure timing and even then getting hit by it. On top of that, if you were to calc it you'd get a result slower than the attack itself.
Meanwhile Uraume is shot at without her expecting it and manages to block it either way.
#1. She did not start blocking when it got close to her,
the first panel of the attack blatantly contradicts logic when we see that there's a sonic boom close to Uraume yet we see that the actual shockwave was formed meters away. The scan does not show that she started blocking when it got close, it shows that
she was already trying to block by the time it appeared close to her, emphasizing the narrow dodge, not the "deliberate waiting". This is proven
because Uraume's hands were at her sides but they were miraculously near her face by the time piercing blood got through.
Rusty's statement explains it already
Uraume isn't greatly faster than Piercing Blood; she barely blocked it. She saw Choso charging up Piercing Blood with convergence, and he was several meters away from her, yet she just barely blocked it. If she were Mach 4.8 like the calculation claims, she'd easily be able to react to a Mach 2.4 attack.
Yet the speed utterly shocked her, and she barely blocked it. This is the same thing our rules mention about evading punches, yet this case is blocking. Her being Mach 4.8 would mean she stood there and waited for it to hit her. That implies she wanted to get hit, which contradicts what we see.
Rusty's single message dismantles the entire point. Rusty's point isn't saying "she's comparable but struggled", Rusty's point says "she's not even comparable to it, because she struggled from several meters away".
#2. Yuji had 2 whole pages clarifying that he's still slower than the attack, not able to properly react to it, having to go off pure timing, and he's still
capable of blocking it in the exact same manner as Uraume.
Blocking it is not an issue. Many people have blocked piercing blood. A weakened Gojo and Sukuna have blocked Piercing Blood. Yuji has blocked piercing blood yet he notes that it's too fast for him to dodge at far distances. The biggest thing is dodging piercing blood, which takes actual better speed, which Uraume cannot do.
#3.
The rule based on the evading punches is based on characters implied to be comparable to each other outside of the feat in place.
Taking it at face value is often inconsistent with the battle in which the feat occurs, where the opponents are presented as equals, but the calculation results in them being considered several times faster.
Yet Uraume has no scaling to Piercing Blood outside of this narrow ass block from forever ago. Everyone Uraume scales to falls under the Transonic cap but you wanna say Uraume's 4x faster. Every dodge of Uraume's nature has been rejected except Kenjaku's because we haven't had a thread to actually tackle it, and you're trying to say this one is
definitive proof that Uraume's comparable. No.
To try to use Uraume, a non physical combatant, who, when 6 meters away, watches Choso prepare the technique, watches the technique be charged up, watches the technique get fired, start to block as soon as they can mentally collect that it got fired when they had the entire chance to aimdodge, doesn't even cover a meter after the technique covers 6, still need more time to block it, and blocks it the moment it gets into their face, then calls it fast, and try to use it to think that the technique is
comparable to her own speed, is about the biggest batch of bull possible to be conceived in the history of calc group discussion threads.
God forbid someone calls a technique fast from half a dozen meters away yet "scale 4x faster" or even "comparable". No.
#4 My calculation measures the absolute lowest it can be. Choso fired a technique. Uraume started blocking prior to when we see the technique almost land, is in the process of blocking when it's close, and fully blocks, so we can calc that total.
We used the wrong hand in the calc? Cool.
To try to say Uraume is comparable in speed to piercing blood based off of this narrow dodge is dishonest as hell.
