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Uraume Calc Discussion

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Uraume doesn't even have a Maximum Technique
bro.
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Are Maximum Output and Maximum Technique not different things?
Kinda but not really

Maximum Techniques are often a different technique using the maximum CE output

Maximum Output is their maximum output

But they're both max output so they would be roughly the same in terms of AP
 
Kinda but not really

Maximum Techniques are often a different technique using the maximum CE output

Maximum Output is their maximum output

But they're both max output so they would be roughly the same in terms of AP
never stated. Maximum Technques are literally the pinnacle of Jujutsu, rivaling Domains. It's far greater than just any output that the user can use
 
never stated. Maximum Technques are literally the pinnacle of Jujutsu, rivaling Domains. It's far greater than just any output that the user can use
Ok but Maximum output wouldn't scale to other characters anyways, in the same way Domain Creation and Maximum Techniques wouldn't, they're expending more CE than what they put into normal attacks
 
Ok but Maximum output wouldn't scale to other characters anyways, in the same way Domain Creation and Maximum Techniques wouldn't, they're expending more CE than what they put into normal attacks
We can't be fr 🥀 Gojo's "Maximum Output Blue" isn't stronger than Red or Purple, it isn't the pinnacle of his CT and everyone would scale to Uraume's ice regardless thanks to Ishigori. And saying it was created with a Maximum Technique just has 0 evidence backing it up
 
We can't be fr 🥀 Gojo's "Maximum Output Blue" isn't stronger than Red or Purple, it isn't the pinnacle of his CT and everyone would scale to Uraume's ice regardless thanks to Ishigori. And saying it was created with a Maximum Technique just has 0 evidence backing it up
Ok but maximum output Blue is also stronger than Gojo's normal attacks, why would his maximum output of a technique that's already stronger than his base scale to his physicals
 
Ryu is stated to have the greatest output within the culling game, puting him above Uraume

Besides, there's no proof that Uraume used maximum output other than headcanon lol
 
Ryu is stated to have the greatest output within the culling game, puting him above Uraume

Besides, there's no proof that Uraume used maximum output other than headcanon lol
Well then the feat is an outlier for her character considering her "Stronger attack" is nearly 130x weaker than this giant ice block if you consider it a regular attack
 
Anyway, this is about calcs, not scaling. If you have scaling problem we can argue in DMs or in the general discussion
 
Ok but maximum output Blue is also stronger than Gojo's normal attacks, why would his maximum output of a technique that's already stronger than his base scale to his physicals
Uraume would downscale from 380 kt in physicals, but she'd still scale to H7C
 
Oh wait I just realized, is frost calm even really a technique, because the reason she creates ice is because he CE gets cold not because her CE turns into ice

Also this would mean that yeah, Ryu upscales from it
 
Oh wait I just realized, is frost calm even really a technique, because the reason she creates ice is because he CE is cold not because her CE turns into ice

Also this would mean that yeah, Ryu upscales from it
Ice Formation is a tech, it's gotta be
 
I don't think there's a point in continuing ts in this thread. Since it literally has 0 purpose
It kinda does, if Ryu has the highest cursed energy output then that means that Uraume releasing raw CE is always below Ryu

However a CT can be stronger than your opponent even if you have lower output so Uraume's Frost Calm can still be stronger than Ryu even if he has higher CE output
 
It kinda does, if Ryu has the highest cursed energy output then that means that Uraume releasing raw CE is always below Ryu

However a CT can be stronger than your opponent even if you have lower output so Uraume's Frost Calm can still be stronger than Ryu even if he has higher CE output
CE Output = CT Output gng. That'd be the case if an ability was heavily hax reliant or smt
 
CE Output = CT Output gng. That'd be the case if an ability was heavily hax reliant or smt
Quote "He's a hotshot who boasts the highest cursed energy of all the players"

Sukuna is a player

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And this obviously wasn't a dura neg attack, he survived the first slash

The only way this would happen is if he was off guard, but he wasn't
 
Also, CE Output for physicals doesn't equal a CT's power, that's kinda the whole reason why we have a non-physical energy system, their physical attacks don't scale unless they directly tank their own attacks or damage someone who tanked the attack*

*(With the exception of Ryu)
 
Quote "He's a hotshot who boasts the highest cursed energy of all the players"

Sukuna is a player

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And this obviously wasn't a dura neg attack, he survived the first slash

The only way this would happen is if he was off guard, but he wasn't
Sukuna wasn't a player when the statement about Ryu's output happened

And for heaven's sake, this thread is not for scaling
 
Also, CE Output for physicals doesn't equal a CT's power, that's kinda the whole reason why we have a non-physical energy system, their physical attacks don't scale unless they directly tank their own attacks or damage someone who tanked the attack*

*(With the exception of Ryu)
TAKE IT OUTSIDE YOU TWO! (insert bumblebee throwing the twin robots gif)
 
Shmeatywerbenmanjenson votes:

Buraqibear votes: @ElJoaki5 , @Drite77

Here we have two accepted calcs for Uraume's ice block from chapter 237, one, currently being used and my one that recently got accepted. I saw people saying that the accepted Uraume calc is invalid for chain scaling with others since it has wonky pixel scaling so I decided to do my own version and got a pretty big difference in results. The purpose of this thread is to decide which one is more valid and should be used.

Also, the original calculation assumes the ice creation started while Gojo was still fighting Sukuna, where a timeframe was given when Gojo would use his Hollow Purple 41 seconds later, but the issue with that is that Gojo, who is known to have keen Cursed Energy perception and vision would've noticed Uraume forming the ice structure, also the structure was also mainly to deliver a weapon, Kamutoke to Sukuna, which would've been suicide since Gojo is leagues above Uraume and that Kamutoke would've been completely ineffective against Gojo thanks to his Infinity. Gojo would've also not just sticked around while the block fell and no one knew that Sukuna would win the fight by then and that Gojo would be killed, and the ice structure is stated to have 'appeared' above Kashimo, who didn't notice Uraume till then. That's why I didn't use the timeframe.
I agree with the method of the new version
 
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