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Are Maximum Output and Maximum Technique not different things?bro.
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Kinda but not reallyAre Maximum Output and Maximum Technique not different things?
never stated. Maximum Technques are literally the pinnacle of Jujutsu, rivaling Domains. It's far greater than just any output that the user can useKinda but not really
Maximum Techniques are often a different technique using the maximum CE output
Maximum Output is their maximum output
But they're both max output so they would be roughly the same in terms of AP
Ok but Maximum output wouldn't scale to other characters anyways, in the same way Domain Creation and Maximum Techniques wouldn't, they're expending more CE than what they put into normal attacksnever stated. Maximum Technques are literally the pinnacle of Jujutsu, rivaling Domains. It's far greater than just any output that the user can use
Ok but Maximum output wouldn't scale to other characters anyways, in the same way Domain Creation and Maximum Techniques wouldn't, they're expending more CE than what they put into normal attacks
We can't be frbro.
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Ok but maximum output Blue is also stronger than Gojo's normal attacks, why would his maximum output of a technique that's already stronger than his base scale to his physicalsWe can't be frGojo's "Maximum Output Blue" isn't stronger than Red or Purple, it isn't the pinnacle of his CT and everyone would scale to Uraume's ice regardless thanks to Ishigori. And saying it was created with a Maximum Technique just has 0 evidence backing it up
Well then the feat is an outlier for her character considering her "Stronger attack" is nearly 130x weaker than this giant ice block if you consider it a regular attackRyu is stated to have the greatest output within the culling game, puting him above Uraume
Besides, there's no proof that Uraume used maximum output other than headcanon lol
Uraume would downscale from 380 kt in physicals, but she'd still scale to H7COk but maximum output Blue is also stronger than Gojo's normal attacks, why would his maximum output of a technique that's already stronger than his base scale to his physicals
Ice Formation is a tech, it's gotta beOh wait I just realized, is frost calm even really a technique, because the reason she creates ice is because he CE is cold not because her CE turns into ice
Also this would mean that yeah, Ryu upscales from it
The technique is making her CE colder, not turning it into iceIce Formation is a tech, it's gotta be
she uses her Innate Technique Ice Formation
I don't think there's a point in continuing ts in this thread. Since it literally has 0 purposeIce Formation is a tech, it's gotta be
It kinda does, if Ryu has the highest cursed energy output then that means that Uraume releasing raw CE is always below RyuI don't think there's a point in continuing ts in this thread. Since it literally has 0 purpose
CE Output = CT Output gng. That'd be the case if an ability was heavily hax reliant or smtIt kinda does, if Ryu has the highest cursed energy output then that means that Uraume releasing raw CE is always below Ryu
However a CT can be stronger than your opponent even if you have lower output so Uraume's Frost Calm can still be stronger than Ryu even if he has higher CE output
Quote "He's a hotshot who boasts the highest cursed energy of all the players"CE Output = CT Output gng. That'd be the case if an ability was heavily hax reliant or smt
Sukuna wasn't a player when the statement about Ryu's output happenedQuote "He's a hotshot who boasts the highest cursed energy of all the players"
Sukuna is a player
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And this obviously wasn't a dura neg attack, he survived the first slash
The only way this would happen is if he was off guard, but he wasn't
TAKE IT OUTSIDE YOU TWO! (insert bumblebee throwing the twin robots gif)Also, CE Output for physicals doesn't equal a CT's power, that's kinda the whole reason why we have a non-physical energy system, their physical attacks don't scale unless they directly tank their own attacks or damage someone who tanked the attack*
*(With the exception of Ryu)
Maximum techniques actually increase CE output so no. This is derrailing thoBut they're both max output so they would be roughly the same in terms of AP
TAKE IT OUTSIDE YOU TWO! (insert bumblebee throwing the twin robots gif)
Yeah we need 3 since JJK is controversialHow many Staff votes do JJK threads need again, we have 2 but we might need 3 I forget
I agree with the method of the new versionShmeatywerbenmanjenson votes:
Buraqibear votes: @ElJoaki5 , @Drite77
Here we have two accepted calcs for Uraume's ice block from chapter 237, one, currently being used and my one that recently got accepted. I saw people saying that the accepted Uraume calc is invalid for chain scaling with others since it has wonky pixel scaling so I decided to do my own version and got a pretty big difference in results. The purpose of this thread is to decide which one is more valid and should be used.
Also, the original calculation assumes the ice creation started while Gojo was still fighting Sukuna, where a timeframe was given when Gojo would use his Hollow Purple 41 seconds later, but the issue with that is that Gojo, who is known to have keen Cursed Energy perception and vision would've noticed Uraume forming the ice structure, also the structure was also mainly to deliver a weapon, Kamutoke to Sukuna, which would've been suicide since Gojo is leagues above Uraume and that Kamutoke would've been completely ineffective against Gojo thanks to his Infinity. Gojo would've also not just sticked around while the block fell and no one knew that Sukuna would win the fight by then and that Gojo would be killed, and the ice structure is stated to have 'appeared' above Kashimo, who didn't notice Uraume till then. That's why I didn't use the timeframe.
Yeah we need 3 since JJK is controversial