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Hizaps

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Hello everyone, this is my first time to create a thread on vsb. So please help in the future. And for disclaimer my english is very bad and this is not my first language, so sorry if it's hard to understand my word haha.

This time I want to discuss about upgrading Obito Uchiha's AP to Moon Level (5C). Without further ado, let's get started.

So I recently heard that Ten-Tails (Juubi) is upgrading to 5-C via Hagoromo & Hamura's onpar scale and as we know that Obito became the Jinchuriki of the Ten-Tails by absorbing the Juubi into his body, it automatically makes Obito also join 5-C just like the Ten-Tails (Juubi).

Maybe that's it for today's thread, what do you think? Any other opinion? Share your opinion so we can have a relaxed discussion here and get the best results. That's all for today. Thank you for your attention, see youu...!!
 
How do the different forms of the Ten-Tails work? Does absorbing one form mean you scale to its strongest form?

Just a question cause I have no idea how Naruto works.
 
As for the OP, Obito didn’t absorb the version of the Juubi that fought Hagoromo and Hamura, he absorbed the Third Form Juubi.

Not to mention that Juubito is stated to be weaker than Juubidara, who was only nearing Hagoromo’s level, so Obito can’t scale above a Juubi that scales to Hagoromo.
 
LordTracer said:
As for the OP, Obito didn’t absorb the version of the Juubi that fought Hagoromo and Hamura, he absorbed the Third Form Juubi.

Not to mention that Juubito is stated to be weaker than Juubidara, who was only nearing Hagoromo’s level, so Obito can’t scale above a Juubi that scales to Hagoromo.
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That's why i downscale from 5B to 5C
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
How do the different forms of the Ten-Tails work? Does absorbing one form mean you scale to its strongest form?

Just a question cause I have no idea how Naruto works.
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I'm not so sure about this, but JΕ«bi is a creature created by a combined entity of Shinju, considering that shinju was consumed by Kaguya to end the war, so maybe the people who consumed the juubi/shinju were at least 5C to 5B
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
consider me neutral on the matter for the time being
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Aright, I'll be waiting for your answer. Can I ask for help to tag a friend or person from a naruto verse supporter or not even a naruto supporter you know? I need their answers. I don't know who the people here are because I'm newbie in vsb haha. Thank youu..!!
 
Hizaps said:
Aright, I'll be waiting for your answer. Can I ask for help to tag a friend or person from a naruto verse supporter or not even a naruto supporter you know? I need their answers. I don't know who the people here are because I'm newbie in vsb haha. Thank youu..!!
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These are staff and major supporters. They have expressed their disagreement.
 
Btw, consider me as disagreeing with this.
Obito scales to Third Form Juubi, therefore he can only have that much power.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Btw, consider me as disagreeing with this.
Obito scales to Third Form Juubi, therefore he can only have that much power.
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Obito's juubi only lacked full power gyuki and kurama so Obito's juubi was not 100% power like the juubi that Hago & Hamu fought. So i downscaled it from 5b to 5c.

Or we can also use the assumption that obito's juubi only has 50% of the original juubi's power, then we will divide the power of 100% juubi (5B) by 2 and will get L5B results
 
Just a question, how about this? Is Obito able to penetrate the durability of Madara? (L5B)
 
Hizaps said:
Obito's juubi only lacked full power gyuki and kurama so Obito's juubi was not 100% power like the juubi that Hago & Hamu fought. So i downscaled it from 5b to 5c.

Or we can also use the assumption that obito's juubi only has 50% of the original juubi's power, then we will divide the power of 100% juubi (5B) by 2 and will get L5B results
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bad assumption. the addition of chakra isn't linear, so you can't make a wild assumption like 50%
 
Hizaps said:
Hello everyone, this is my first time to create a thread on vsb. So please help in the future. And for disclaimer my english is very bad and this is not my first language, so sorry if it's hard to understand my word haha.

This time I want to discuss about upgrading Obito Uchiha's AP to Moon Level (5C). Without further ado, let's get started.

So I recently heard that Ten-Tails (Juubi) is upgrading to 5-C via Hagoromo & Hamura's onpar scale and as we know that Obito became the Jinchuriki of the Ten-Tails by absorbing the Juubi into his body, it automatically makes Obito also join 5-C just like the Ten-Tails (Juubi).

Maybe that's it for today's thread, what do you think? Any other opinion? Share your opinion so we can have a relaxed discussion here and get the best results. That's all for today. Thank you for your attention, see youu...!!
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Obito makes more sense in multi Countient, because the Juubi he absorbs is not perfect.
 
JaaNoLimitttt said:
Obito makes more sense in multi Countient, because the Juubi he absorbs is not perfect.
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Obito's juubi only lacked full power gyuki and kurama so Obito's juubi was not 100% power like the juubi that Hago & Hamu fought. So i downscaled it from 5b to 5c.

Or we can also use the assumption that obito's juubi only has 50% of the original juubi's power, then we will divide the power of 100% juubi (5B) by 2 and will get L5B results
 
LordTracer said:
As for the OP, Obito didn’t absorb the version of the Juubi that fought Hagoromo and Hamura, he absorbed the Third Form Juubi.

Not to mention that Juubito is stated to be weaker than Juubidara, who was only nearing Hagoromo’s level, so Obito can’t scale above a Juubi that scales to Hagoromo.
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I don't think so, Madara absorbed the Juubi version that was consumed by Obito and according to Hagoromo himself it almost reached its power
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/602444519073382401/1018020499495858238/IMG_20220910_124800.jpg
so it can be said that Madara who absorbs the juubi that Obito consumes gets atleast 5C
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/602444519073382401/1018020789414531092/IMG_20220910_125030.jpg
and 5B for people who absorb Shinju, because according to Hagoromo himself, Madara who has absorbed the Juubi wants to achieve strength equal to his mother (Kaguya)
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/602444519073382401/1018021299207032852/IMG_20220910_125308.jpg
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/602444519073382401/1018021383395102731/IMG_20220910_125330.jpg
so at least obito 5C or 5C likely far higher, or even Low 5-B
 
HADES said:
I don't think so, Madara absorbed the Juubi version that was consumed by Obito and according to Hagoromo himself it almost reached its power
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/602444519073382401/1018020499495858238/IMG_20220910_124800.jpg
so it can be said that Madara who absorbs the juubi that Obito consumes gets atleast 5C
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/602444519073382401/1018020789414531092/IMG_20220910_125030.jpg
and 5B for people who absorb Shinju, because according to Hagoromo himself, Madara who has absorbed the Juubi wants to achieve strength equal to his mother (Kaguya)
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/602444519073382401/1018021299207032852/IMG_20220910_125308.jpg
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/602444519073382401/1018021383395102731/IMG_20220910_125330.jpg
so at least obito 5C or 5C likely far higher, or even Low 5-B
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First of all, we don’t use the anime here, we use the manga.

Second of all, Juubidara is directly stated to be more powerful than Juubito (Chapter 665), so Madara’s showings don’t affect Obito in any way.

Third of all, you can’t downscale from 5-B to 5-C, as I already said in this thread.
 
Hizaps said:
Obito's juubi only lacked full power gyuki and kurama so Obito's juubi was not 100% power like the juubi that Hago & Hamu fought. So i downscaled it from 5b to 5c.
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You literally cannot do that, it's just arbitrary and has no logic behind it. Just scale him to the value 3rd Form Juubi scales to.
Hizaps said:
Or we can also use the assumption that obito's juubi only has 50% of the original juubi's power, then we will divide the power of 100% juubi (5B) by 2 and will get L5B results
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Based on what? Why do you assume the Juubi's power is translated linearly in the first place?
No, a weaker form is not being downscaled to a random value, it's going to keep scaling to what it scales today.
 
Just a question, how about this? Is Obito able to penetrate the durability of Madara? (L5B)
 
Hizaps said:
Can you tell me one more time why i can't downscale?
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Baseline 5-B is 59.44 zettatons. The highest possible degree of 5-C is 433 exatons. That’s literally over a 100x difference.
Hizaps said:
Just a question, how about this? Is Obito able to penetrate the durability of Madara? (L5B)
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That’s more of a feat for Zetsu than anything tbh.

Also use the manga, not the anime.
 
LordTracer said:
As for the OP, Obito didn’t absorb the version of the Juubi that fought Hagoromo and Hamura, he absorbed the Third Form Juubi.

Not to mention that Juubito is stated to be weaker than Juubidara, who was only nearing Hagoromo’s level, so Obito can’t scale above a Juubi that scales to Hagoromo.
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Agreed, what about with speed though? With a portion of obito’s six paths chakra and his eye kakashi kept up with kaguya
 
Honestly what does it say about the Bijuu when Sasuke absorbing all 9 in to his Susanoo made him go from an equal to Naruto to dominating him until he absorbed his Nature chakra. Indra’s Arrow would have blown Naruto off the map according to Kurama too. these two are 5B and yet the Bijuu are still relevant. I just can’t imagine Juubito being entire tiers below Juubidara for missing half of the nine tails and the eight tails.
 
I do think, it's strange that such a wide gap exists, that being said unless theres more concrete information or arguments for Obito, he has no business with Madara. also why are people talking about 5-B when Obito is weaker than the Madara thats Low 5-B?
 
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Shadowbokunohero said:
I do think, it's strange that such a wide gap exist, that being said unless theres more concrete information or arguments for Obito, he has no business with Madara. also why are people talking about 5-B when Obito is weaker than the Madara thats Low 5-B?
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I do feel like there’s something to be said about how relevant the Bijuu still seem to be in 5B fights with Obito having most of them in his incomplete Juubi but that’s an argument for a different day.
 
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