Upgrade for Toneri.

[Dzhindzholia]

@Kepekley23

Is that possible to use high end of Toneri's feat?People were Ok with high end,just asking.I think it is consistent,imo.

 

[Kepekley23]

Low 5-B is safer.

 

[TataHakai]

@Kepekley23
Is that possible to use high end of Toneri's feat?People were Ok with high end,just asking.I think it is consistent,imo.

For anyone who's curious

The 5-B High end was the one who assumed an 8 minute timeframe for the movement of the moon (the timeframe in the actual movie)

The Low end used an hour because that's how long Gaara asked the Raikage to wait for the fight to finish, though obviously the fight didn't last the entire hour.

 

[Frantzy12]

An hour? that is pretty much straight up wrong to go with the 1 hour..it's kinda illogical XD

 

[TataHakai]

It's the only sure statement from the movie, it's a huge lowball but anything besides 8 minutes and an hour would just be anyone's guess.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

At 1:31:13 Gaara asked to give them an hour,after that Naruto and Toneri started fighting,and at 1:34:07 Raikage noted that only 10 minutes remain beofore he uses chakra cannon.

They really fought for an hour.

 

[Kepekley23]

This kind of chronological dissonance is also known as the 5 Minutes Maneuver. lol.

 

[BMWFanboy]

Damn it, we'd have had confirmed 5-B Naruto if they hadn't said that smh

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Forgot to mention this before, but Naruto should have a "higher with 100% Kurama Mode" or something like that.

Never mind. The "at least" should cover that. Now we have another Low 5-B feat, which is cool.

 

[BlackeJan]

i agree w/ Burning

EDIT: why dont we use a "+" since he 1 shotted Tensigan CM Toneri w/ the remaining chakra he had & half of Kurama gone (wasnt even using SOSP either)

 

[TataHakai]

At 1:31:13 Gaara asked to give them an hour,after that Naruto and Toneri started fighting,and at 1:34:07 Raikage noted that only 10 minutes remain beofore he uses chakra cannon.
They really fought for an hour.

Goddamn cinematic timing, 3 minutes = 50 minutes

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Blacke

That's not how it works. All it warrants is an "at least".

 

[BlackeJan]

@Blacke

That's not how it works. All it warrants is an "at least".

But....but....he wasn't at full strength

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

And...? We don't assign a "+" for just that. And the Low 5-B end is quite far from baseline 5-B, if I'm remembering correctly.

 

[TataHakai]

And...? We don't assign a "+" for just that. And the Low 5-B end is quite far from baseline 5-B, if I'm remembering correctly.

Around 137x

 

[Kepekley23]

If you use 50 minutes instead, the result is 1.92 zettatons for the low end of the high end diameter.

 

[BlackeJan]

If you use 50 minutes instead, the result is 1.92 zettatons for the low end of the high end diameter.

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[Dzhindzholia]

So,who is going to apply changes?

 

[BlackeJan]

If you use 50 minutes instead, the result is 1.92 zettatons for the low end of the high end diameter.

So what does that mean?

 

[Dzhindzholia]

^Exactly what he wrote,the result would be 1,9 zettatons instead of 1,3.

 

[AlexSoloVaAlFuturo]

Here is the calc.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Kep

Naruto and Sasuke create a moo ,from TataHakai.

You said that it was better to use 1 minute timeframe in this calc,because the same was used in Piccolo's feat.But later Piccolo's moonbusting feat was revised and the result from 8 seconds(hi end) was applied.

This calc can upgrade Nardo verse if it will be accepted.What do you think?

 

[Kepekley23]

The result with 1 minute is Small Planet level, actually. The Piccolo feat had a calculated timeframe.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I guess I can start in a short while.

Also, we're supposed to change Kurama to Unknown due to what was mentioned in Mindovin's thread.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Kep

I think i'll check anime and manga versions,i don't think the timeframe is that big,as Tata mencioned Chibaku Tensei became that big in one Panel.

 

[Kepekley23]

We assume 1 minute for "somewhat fast" feats where the timeframe isn't quantifiable.

Also, the timeframe is 2 minutes in the anime

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Kep

Toneri - Unknow | At least Small Planet level (Sent the Moon towards the Earth and sliced the Moon in half)

It's supposed to be like this, right?

 

[Kepekley23]

Yes.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Naruto throws Zetsu,Chibaki Tensei is very small.


Chibaku Tensei formes,already the size of moon.


Naruto cought up with the Team.

These are 9,10,11 pages of chapter 690.
14:12 Naruto throws Zetsu in Chibaku tensei like in 9th page,14:26 Naruto's face and Chibaku Tensei like in 10th page(The Chibaku Tensei is different from manga one but that is likely animators fault),next It shows us team 7 and Naruto as in page 11.

5 or 15 seconds are waay more consistent than 1 or 2 minutes,imo

 

[Kepekley23]

In the anime the timeframe is 2 minutes despite it being identical to the manga's portrayal. A few panels doesn't necessarily mean a few seconds.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

But why?If the same thing in the anime happened just like in the manga with supporting timeframe,thers was not 2 minutes.

 

[Kepekley23]

Because using only a few seconds is inflated, and, as I said, we use 1 minute for unquantifiably fast feats.

 

[Dark649]

I saw the Toneri upgrade, guess that the Tenseingan Toneri comparable to Juudara thing was true after all.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Powerwise maby yes,but not ability wise.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I've adjusted them, so this can be closed.