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Currently Ungoliant is rated as "At least Low 2-C" with a 6-B weakened form.
The first problem is her Low 2-C form.
Lets start:
"Drained the Two Trees of Valinor, of which a single flower and fruit became the sun and the moon, respectively."
Firstly, the LOTR world is now considered smaller then to real world, which would mean that these would be lower tha 5-C and 4-C, and almost impossible to evaluate.
Additionally, even if we said that the sun is normal sized, that would only be at least 4-C/High 4-C.
Next:
"Drank the Well of Varda, which contained all the dew ever collected from the Two Trees, making even Melkor afraid"
The problem here, is that they're implying via usage of Melkor is that this was Morgoth's true (At least Low 2-C) form, when this was only a slightly weakened Morgoth.
Now the question here is what tier is Morgoth at this point.
Now, later, when Morgoth is even more weakened, he was still considered, "The greatest of all things". This implies that Morgoth was still strogner than the Valar, making him "At least 4-A, likely 3-B."
To clarify:
Ungoliant>Slightly weakened Morgoth>Weakened Morgoth>Valar=At least 4-A, likely 3-B.
So, that would make this Ungoliant "At least 4-A, likely 3-B."
Also, about the Wells (Slight mistake here) of Varda:
If the sun was truly sun-sized, this would be 4-B (Even just a fruit per year is 4-B). However, as I established earlier, the sun is no longer considered sun-sized (Though, strangly, the stars are still star sized).
Also, if I am correct only the fruit of Teleperion was in the Wells of Varda.
I have heard the argument that all the light to make the stars came from the Wells, but that would only be up to 3-A.
Next, her 6-B form
The reasoning behind this is "Overpowered a weakened Morgoth, who had to call upon more than seven Balrogs in order to chase her off"
Firstly, didn't you just say she overpowered Melkor, A.K.A full power Morgoth?
Secondly, she was not starving when the Balrogs attacked, and she was not starving when she defeated Morgoth.
This should honestly be changed to just unkown.
And now for the cleanup:
The order of her keys:
This is a minor nitpick, but wouldn't it be cleaner if her keys where weakest to strongest.
Most other pages are like that, so I dont see why not this one.
The name of her keys:
Again, a minor nitpick, but wouldn't it be cleaner if it was:
Weakened | Full power
Instead of what we have now.
To explain why I think this is a better name, I will use this analogy:
My strength scales to how full I am; When I'm starving I am weakened, however after eating some food I can use my full power.
Speed:
"Supersonic+ to High Hypersonic via powerscaling"
Powerscaling to who, and why.
It should at least be given a reason, like keeping pace with Morgoth, and that would warrent.
A: An at least.
B: The same for both keys.
Stamina:
"Superhuman"
Why?
Should be unknown.
Mind manipulation:
Source?
Durability:
"Survived Melkor's scream at point blank and able to withstand several Balrogs waling on her, which she survived"
The bolded part is redundent.
Also, Morgoth's scream is not 6-B.
And lastly, standard equipment:
"N/A"
Should be none notable.
The last part is little nitpicks that can be ignored, however the first part is very important.
The first problem is her Low 2-C form.
Lets start:
"Drained the Two Trees of Valinor, of which a single flower and fruit became the sun and the moon, respectively."
Firstly, the LOTR world is now considered smaller then to real world, which would mean that these would be lower tha 5-C and 4-C, and almost impossible to evaluate.
Additionally, even if we said that the sun is normal sized, that would only be at least 4-C/High 4-C.
Next:
"Drank the Well of Varda, which contained all the dew ever collected from the Two Trees, making even Melkor afraid"
The problem here, is that they're implying via usage of Melkor is that this was Morgoth's true (At least Low 2-C) form, when this was only a slightly weakened Morgoth.
Now the question here is what tier is Morgoth at this point.
Now, later, when Morgoth is even more weakened, he was still considered, "The greatest of all things". This implies that Morgoth was still strogner than the Valar, making him "At least 4-A, likely 3-B."
To clarify:
Ungoliant>Slightly weakened Morgoth>Weakened Morgoth>Valar=At least 4-A, likely 3-B.
So, that would make this Ungoliant "At least 4-A, likely 3-B."
Also, about the Wells (Slight mistake here) of Varda:
If the sun was truly sun-sized, this would be 4-B (Even just a fruit per year is 4-B). However, as I established earlier, the sun is no longer considered sun-sized (Though, strangly, the stars are still star sized).
Also, if I am correct only the fruit of Teleperion was in the Wells of Varda.
I have heard the argument that all the light to make the stars came from the Wells, but that would only be up to 3-A.
Next, her 6-B form
The reasoning behind this is "Overpowered a weakened Morgoth, who had to call upon more than seven Balrogs in order to chase her off"
Firstly, didn't you just say she overpowered Melkor, A.K.A full power Morgoth?
Secondly, she was not starving when the Balrogs attacked, and she was not starving when she defeated Morgoth.
This should honestly be changed to just unkown.
And now for the cleanup:
The order of her keys:
This is a minor nitpick, but wouldn't it be cleaner if her keys where weakest to strongest.
Most other pages are like that, so I dont see why not this one.
The name of her keys:
Again, a minor nitpick, but wouldn't it be cleaner if it was:
Weakened | Full power
Instead of what we have now.
To explain why I think this is a better name, I will use this analogy:
My strength scales to how full I am; When I'm starving I am weakened, however after eating some food I can use my full power.
Speed:
"Supersonic+ to High Hypersonic via powerscaling"
Powerscaling to who, and why.
It should at least be given a reason, like keeping pace with Morgoth, and that would warrent.
A: An at least.
B: The same for both keys.
Stamina:
"Superhuman"
Why?
Should be unknown.
Mind manipulation:
Source?
Durability:
"Survived Melkor's scream at point blank and able to withstand several Balrogs waling on her, which she survived"
The bolded part is redundent.
Also, Morgoth's scream is not 6-B.
And lastly, standard equipment:
"N/A"
Should be none notable.
The last part is little nitpicks that can be ignored, however the first part is very important.
