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There's an entire blog about it.
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Umineko question
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A blog? Link pls
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I disagree, I think I’ve explained my position well enough and you’re making out it’s such a huge leap when it’s actually not.
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07th Expansion Series Cosmology
Welcome, welcome! This is an in-depth look at the cosmology of the 07th Expansion works, meaning those of the When They Cry series (Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, Umineko no Naku Koro Ni, Ciconia no Naku Koro Ni), Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni, Rose Guns Days, Trianthology ~Sanmenkyou no Kuni no Alice~...
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Never mind however I disagree about using this as an evidence for higher plane of existence because it seems like this statement was taken out of context as IIRC if we look before that statement :07th Expansion Series Cosmology
Welcome, welcome! This is an in-depth look at the cosmology of the 07th Expansion works, meaning those of the When They Cry series (Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, Umineko no Naku Koro Ni, Ciconia no Naku Koro Ni), Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni, Rose Guns Days, Trianthology ~Sanmenkyou no Kuni no Alice~...
It was just Ange referring to the disparity between Beato's strenght compared to her nephews
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Isn't the scan used to prove HOW higher dimensions are treated? NOT proof of existence?
That 1 scan is only ever referenced to prove higher planes are infinitely superior to lower planes, not proving higher dimensions exist, that's what the rest of the blog does.
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So how many dimensions does umineko have?
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07th Expansion Series Cosmology
Welcome, welcome! This is an in-depth look at the cosmology of the 07th Expansion works, meaning those of the When They Cry series (Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, Umineko no Naku Koro Ni, Ciconia no Naku Koro Ni), Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni, Rose Guns Days, Trianthology ~Sanmenkyou no Kuni no Alice~...
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They are 3 domain in umineko(dimensional plains)?07th Expansion Series Cosmology
Welcome, welcome! This is an in-depth look at the cosmology of the 07th Expansion works, meaning those of the When They Cry series (Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, Umineko no Naku Koro Ni, Ciconia no Naku Koro Ni), Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni, Rose Guns Days, Trianthology ~Sanmenkyou no Kuni no Alice~...
Within the 3 domains they are infinite hierarchy within them?
Plus the creator seems to be a being someone will become when they transcend all domain,E.g Maria.
But I saw a creator profile in this wiki.
Plus the creator will have some kind on mathematical manipulation in the sea of nothingness?
I've got many questions to ask you. But I will 1 at a time.
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I can try to answer your questions, but my knowledge is very rusty atm, I'm overdue for a re-read
Yes, the Human Domain (first), Witch Domain (second), 3rd Domain (....third).
Human Domain is noted as a hierarchy with no explicit size given.
Witch Domain explicitly infinite.
3rd Domain also explicitly infinite (based on the blog).
The "Creator" is probably the most confusing being in Umineko, but more or less.
The Creator could probably be comparable to a state of being rather than an actual character. In Umineko it's what happens when someone loses ALL restrictions.
Someone else could probably explain this better, but its like an extension of Beatrice's endless magic.
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So they are infinite dimensions in the witch domain
Same with the blog.
The blog makes it seem the being doesn't even exist but someone can be it. (Maybe by reaching that domain).
Tbh,that's how it seems to my understanding from the link you sent.
E.g Maria
Sorry,but what's Beatrice endless magic.
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The ladder analogy Lambda used encompassed short of Creator Domain actually.I can try to answer your questions, but my knowledge is very rusty atm, I'm overdue for a re-read
Yes, the Human Domain (first), Witch Domain (second), 3rd Domain (....third).
Human Domain is noted as a hierarchy with no explicit size given.
Witch Domain explicitly infinite.
3rd Domain also explicitly infinite (based on the blog).
It really isn't confusing. People just don't bother reading all the materials and come up with weird headcanons about them.
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I see.
Still its OP for a verse to have higher dimensional plains inside another higher dimensional plain. Not that I understand it or am interpreting it.
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But as I said Ange was clearly referring to the disparity between Beato's strenght compared to her nephews not about the lower planes being superior to the lower ones but okay whatever
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and?
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And.... Why are we using this scan as an evidence for Higher planes being infinitely superior to the lower ones? Can't we just replace it by an other one?
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Ange was using the difference between dimensions to mock Beatrice's power (Beato's power is related to Infinity, so the comparison to dimensions is the best comparison Ange could ever make). This doesn't invalidate how the verse uses dimensions (that's not even the only scan explaining the difference between dimensions, in Higanbana, for example, is compared to reality and fiction (the scan is in the explanation page)).
You should probably stop copy-pasting arguments from Comic Vine about a verse you don't really know (yes, I know from where those arguments are, and much much more than that).
You should probably stop copy-pasting arguments from Comic Vine about a verse you don't really know (yes, I know from where those arguments are, and much much more than that).
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Why would Ange make something up like that?
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Okay then
Wait......how did you know that I brought them from CV? But yeah it's true actually I've saw some people saying that that Ange statement isn't a proof for higher and lower layers in a battle thread so I thought that the verse was getting wanked lol
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The only way it would be hyperbole is if it were said in a verse like NAruto where higher D's don't exist.
The context doesn't change the fact.
The context doesn't change the fact.
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Cause I'm on CV too, and that I know the guys who made those arguments.
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There's stuff you could argue for the verse being wanked, but the nature of the higher Ds isn't one.
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Ah I see well thanks for clearing everything up to me
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Umineko ain't wanked tho.
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It's your opinion, maybe not his opinion
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Umineko wanked? Bruh, people say that Umineko is tier 10 because they are humans, witches being tier 6 because umineko places on a island and there it goes
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I know i am on discord but doesn't change for human domain, in first many people complain already about 3rd domain as some explanation in verse litteraly contradict is existence.
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Yuri refered that the verse could be wanked here in vsb profile/page for some thing, doesn't talk about who downplay or who wank
Even with all the will of the world you can't get umineko below tier 1, except if you count all the story as just being a invented thing beetween psycho
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Pretty much no matter what verse it is, it will be both wanked and lowballed by some people. Though I would say some lowball is worse, there are obviously people who wank it too.
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Teir 10?despite all their multiversal feats?
How is human domain teir 0?
I haven't seen that before. The blog you showed me makes it seem the creator isn't even a being, but a plain or state of existence in which someone becomes.
This island they reside is high 1A right?
I haven't read umineko or anything but featherine also resides in the island right?
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I mean beatrice died from getting slammed on a table by battler (of course she reformed herself) and Bernkastel getting hurt by a punched from battler lmao.Teir 10?despite all their multiversal feats?
How is human domain teir 0?
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Aren't this characters existing in the same dimensional plain?
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