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Was the reason for these revisions also because of translation issues? (Maybe the reason why originally Umineko was tier 0 was because of Mis-translation)
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Umineko 1-A Tier
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There was a translation thing involved in Umineko's downgrade, but the 1A stuff isn't based on translation stuff. It says the same thing regardless of how you translate it, with basic knowledge from the story.
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so what was the actual reason? Misinterpreting things?
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Well, the downgrade from Tier 0 was based on mistranslation of certain scenes, along with some interpretations that weren't agreed upon like the existence of a 3rd Domain.
Guardian_Doge
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You're silly.
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Yet this is clearly stated. You rise up the ladder to lose restrictions. You start at the human domain, explicitly stated to have ground beneath it (well, it says that people in the human domain have ground beneath them), so the analogy comparing the domain to the ground seems apt. The creator's domain is the destination, lacking any and all restrictions whatsoever. It doesn't make much sense for something lacking restrictions to be part of a ladder, literally made up of restrictions.
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It's not about ladder imao. she only said about witch world which goes down like a ladder, human domain is totally irrelevant here. are you saying it is a step of ladder? she said about it when she explained the two extremes. those who created fates and bound to fates which is clear there are two domains,
climbing the ladder may loose witches' restrictions, but it doesn't mean every part of ladder has restrictions. If it exists in another domain, voyagers never could be creator akin to how humans can't reach witch domain without meta world powers/help of a witch.
"lost ground under thier feet" is an idiom, mean they can do better. Already said above.
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Yes it is lol. The world is an infinite ladder between the place full of restrictions and the place lacking restrictions. So the ladder, by simple logic, is made up of restrictions. This isn't hard to comprehend.
That's a pretty big assumption with zero basis whatsoever. Characters lose restrictions as they climb higher up the ladder until they reach the creator which lacks restrictions whatsoever, hence why it's outside the ladder.
That's...not what that means.
Guardian_Doge
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The ladder is an analogy for a metaphysical/spiritual evolution of a being, it spans anything and everything with a restrictions. The "two extremes" is a figurative language meant to express there are two kinds of beings, the domains are just additive structural context.
....? Dude, rewatch memoirs of lambdadelta.
No, witches have a ground beneath their feet to help stabilize their existence without falling into the depths of hell, or oblivion, creators lack even this ground, it's not hard to comprehend.
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I thought it was more that they have to take on restrictions (define their existence) or else they'll fall to oblivion. But yeah, the creators lack any form of restriction
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You put this way better than I did. Thanks
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LuciferX trying to downgrade Tier 1 verse be like.
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The salt on this mans after getting his
Rakih_Elyan
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Where? What thread?
Rakih_Elyan
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LMAO
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