UES Question

[HakutoRei000]

“Based on my understanding, UES can serve as a foundation for character scaling within a verse, and any character capable of utilizing UES automatically scales to its level (CMIIW). That said, is there an upper limit to how far UES can be scaled? For example, does it eventually reach a threshold where further scaling is no longer possible? Additionally, can hax also be scaled in the same manner?”.

I Need A paragraph long answer plz.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

“Based on my understanding, UES can serve as a foundation for character scaling within a verse, and any character capable of utilizing UES automatically scales to its level (CMIIW). That said, is there an upper limit to how far UES can be scaled? For example, does it eventually reach a threshold where further scaling is no longer possible? Additionally, can hax also be scaled in the same manner?”.

I Need A paragraph long answer plz.

No + No for both questions

 

[HakutoRei000]

No + No for both questions

damn man for least giv explanation, if UES is 1-A can the character scale to? like isnt that An anti feat?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I Need A paragraph long answer plz.

1. There no limit to how high someone can scale with UES. Let's say the UES is magic. If he pulls a 5D AP feat with Magic, it would upscale to his physicals to 5D. If he pulls a 7D AP feat with Magic, it would still upscale to his physicals there

2. The very definition of Hax is that they bypass conventional durability. Based on this definition, you can't really have UES apply to Hax.

Examples: Death Manip can't be 8-C, Soul Absorption can't be 3-B, Durability Negation can't be High 4-C because they bypass Durability and thus aren't "quantifiable"

damn man for least giv explanation, if UES is 1-A can the character scale to? like isnt that An anti feat?

Not an anti-feat. Its actually a good thing for the character

 

[HakutoRei000]

1. There no limit to how high someone can scale with UES. Let's say the UES is magic. If he pulls a 5D AP feat with Magic, it would upscale to his physicals. If he pulls a 7D AP feat, it would still upscale to his physicals

2. The very definition of Hax is that they bypass conventional durability. Based on this definition, you can't really have UES apply to Hax.




Not an anti-feat. Its actually a good thing for the character

“Alright, so what are the actual requirements for UES to be scaled in a verse? Like, does a character just need to have UES to count, or do they need to actually show some solid usage or feats with it before they scale? For example, if someone only passively has UES but never really uses it in a fight, would they still scale, or does that not count? And what if a verse has different interpretations of UES—does everyone scale to the strongest one shown, or is it more case-by-case depending on context? Basically, I just wanna know how strict the rules are when it comes to applying UES scaling, and if it’s more about what the character can do versus what they’ve actually shown.”

 

[Lloydblitzed]

“Alright, so what are the actual requirements for UES to be scaled in a verse? Like, does a character just need to have UES to count, or do they need to actually show some solid usage or feats with it before they scale? For example, if someone only passively has UES but never really uses it in a fight, would they still scale, or does that not count?

UES isn't something you necesserally need to use in a fight. I'll take Ninjago for an example: Elemental Masters are passively amped by their Element. Their powers will forever scale to their physicals too, whether they use them for fights or just to do something such as burning down a tree for the fun of it

And what if a verse has different interpretations of UES—does everyone scale to the strongest one shown, or is it more case-by-case depending on context?

I need an example for this, but normally the basis is the same for any verse

Basically, I just wanna know how strict the rules are when it comes to applying UES scaling, and if it’s more about what the character can do versus what they’ve actually shown.”

To be simple: If you have a source, examples of character's AP increasing (with a power up), or decreasing (with a power loss) and proof the said power can enhance physicals (like being stated to be physically channel or showing that someone having his power enhanced makes him stronger, or the reverse of this), you get an easy UES

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Having an accepted UES doesn't guarantee automatic power scaling. We still need to take context and difference between casual/regular attacks and final attacks. Which the former doesn't automatically downscale from the latter. And just because the system itself qualifies as universal, there exist UES where only those who mastered using it can truly use it with the efficiency of a UES where it can feel more like Limited or Nonphysical for individuals who have yet to master use of the system.

 

[Vietthai96]

Like DDM have said, in short it is heavily depending on how the verse showcase its UES,