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Two Joebros go toe to toe (Polnareff vs Kakyoin)
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Depends. Kakyoin definitely has the range advantage with Hierophant Barrier and all that. Polnareff never saw the Hierophant Barrier in use (at least not in the way Kakyoin used it against DIO) so he wouldn't know that the strings will be detecting his movements and attacking him from all sorts of angles.
However Silver Chariot is probably > Hierophant Green, as Hierophant Green was only capable of lightly phasing Star Platinum while Silver Chariot was capable of fighting on par with it, and its rapier was undamaged from the fight. If Polnareff gets up close he pretty much wins but he's going to have a hard time doing that, since he starts just outside of Kakyoin's 20 m range due to Standard Battle Assumptions.
I'm going for Kakyoin. He was generally one of the more clever ones on the team, while Polnareff is cocky and hotheaded. Yes Silver Chariot does have that secret technique of shooting its sword but by the time he gets the chance to use it, it'll probably be too late.
However Silver Chariot is probably > Hierophant Green, as Hierophant Green was only capable of lightly phasing Star Platinum while Silver Chariot was capable of fighting on par with it, and its rapier was undamaged from the fight. If Polnareff gets up close he pretty much wins but he's going to have a hard time doing that, since he starts just outside of Kakyoin's 20 m range due to Standard Battle Assumptions.
I'm going for Kakyoin. He was generally one of the more clever ones on the team, while Polnareff is cocky and hotheaded. Yes Silver Chariot does have that secret technique of shooting its sword but by the time he gets the chance to use it, it'll probably be too late.
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Hm... tough choice
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HIGHROPHANTO for AN's reasons
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Well, I still vote Polnareff. He has 8-B dura, far more experience than Kakyoin, and can quickly boost the speed of SC by a very significant degree, which I believe will be more enough to defend himself from Kakyoin attacking from all angles.
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Just wanted to point out that they are both revised. They are no longer 8-B+ just 8-B.
I vote Kakyoin on the basis of him getting progressively smarter as the series went on. He started to use his range more and more. Polnareff has never really gotten smarter, maybe a bit more creative but nothing much.
He'll probably run away and take it in-doors where he has the advantage. Polnareff finally catches up saying "There's nowhere to run now!" and proceeds to sent Chariot after Kakyoin. Unbenknowst to him, Hierophant Green has already made its way outside via ventillation shafts. He stands directly outside a window Polnareff cannot see and blasts him with a near point-blank emerald splash. Polnareff hesitates in striking down Kakyoin because he knows he needs to turn Chariot around FAST. This hesitation is his downfall, he now cannot not strike Kakyoin in time or turn Chariot around in time. He gets blasted to death, GG.
I vote Kakyoin on the basis of him getting progressively smarter as the series went on. He started to use his range more and more. Polnareff has never really gotten smarter, maybe a bit more creative but nothing much.
He'll probably run away and take it in-doors where he has the advantage. Polnareff finally catches up saying "There's nowhere to run now!" and proceeds to sent Chariot after Kakyoin. Unbenknowst to him, Hierophant Green has already made its way outside via ventillation shafts. He stands directly outside a window Polnareff cannot see and blasts him with a near point-blank emerald splash. Polnareff hesitates in striking down Kakyoin because he knows he needs to turn Chariot around FAST. This hesitation is his downfall, he now cannot not strike Kakyoin in time or turn Chariot around in time. He gets blasted to death, GG.
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Just saying, where would they go indoors? They're in Central Park per SBA.
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There are buildings not too far from Central Park.
It's not just a giant field. You can jog to an apartment in a minute from Central Park. Go search it up on google maps.
It's not just a giant field. You can jog to an apartment in a minute from Central Park. Go search it up on google maps.
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Polnareff won't be able to defend himself from the 20-meter Emerald Splash even if Silver Chariot had his armor off. So I vote Kakyoin.
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@ProfessorLord
And that's all assuming Polnareff can even get close to Kakyoin.
Silver Chariot would have to be able to protect Polnareff from Emerald Splashes coming at him from multiple angles at once, triggered by touching strings that Polnareff cannot see. At some point Polnareff is going to get desperate and shoot his sword out, which will be from a distance great enough for Kakyoin to react to it, leaving Polnareff defenseless.
And that's all assuming Polnareff can even get close to Kakyoin.
Silver Chariot would have to be able to protect Polnareff from Emerald Splashes coming at him from multiple angles at once, triggered by touching strings that Polnareff cannot see. At some point Polnareff is going to get desperate and shoot his sword out, which will be from a distance great enough for Kakyoin to react to it, leaving Polnareff defenseless.
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Kakyoin's stand can also be cut in half with no ill consequences, as we've seen with Death 13... so long as it's a tendril and not actually HG. So he can use this to make Polnareff think he's cut his stand in half, play dead, then blast him from every direction.
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Exactly. Also, no one can deflect the Emerald Splash. (unless you're one edgy boi or a 100-year-old time stopping vampire.)
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The Lovers was the only stand/thing that Kakyoin landed a good thing on.
Polnareff himself can tank emerald splashes, though, as Kakyoin used it on him to get him out of the way of The Hanged Man's attack.
Polnareff himself can tank emerald splashes, though, as Kakyoin used it on him to get him out of the way of The Hanged Man's attack.
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Well, technically, Tower of Gray didn't deflect the Emerald Splashes. It just avoided them.
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That's just PIS Arbitrary. Either that, or he held back his emerald splash?
Either way, Kakyoin managed to put a hole in DIO with it. That would be City Block Level+ AP. Polnareff has City Block Level durability.
I'm still updating profiles after revision, but that should remain true.
Either way, Kakyoin managed to put a hole in DIO with it. That would be City Block Level+ AP. Polnareff has City Block Level durability.
I'm still updating profiles after revision, but that should remain true.
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Why is the + being removed?
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The logic is Star Platinum has shattered DIO's skull who had a 64 ton calcuation. (Which is City Block Lvel+)
Now, throughout SDC and DIU most villains of the week have scaled solely from surviving multiple blows from Star Platinum. Makes sense right? No.
Jotaro is clearly pulling Star Platinum's punches. He is not actively trying to kill everyone he gives an ORAORAORA too. He had a speech dedicated to pointing out evil. He's the good guy. Not to mention the only person he has killed was DIO (and Kira in-directly.) and he verbalized he was going to do so. He never verbalized he was going to kill Yellow Temperance, Steely Dan etc.
If he wasn't pulling the punches that means everyone is on the same durability as DIO... which makes no ******* sense. He's a vampire and they're all humans, yet they can take the same kind of damage?
That's why the decision was made to downgrade them from City Block+ to just City Block, in order to reflect the difference between Jotaro trying to kill you and Jotaro holding back.
This was agreed upon in the latest revision.
Now, throughout SDC and DIU most villains of the week have scaled solely from surviving multiple blows from Star Platinum. Makes sense right? No.
Jotaro is clearly pulling Star Platinum's punches. He is not actively trying to kill everyone he gives an ORAORAORA too. He had a speech dedicated to pointing out evil. He's the good guy. Not to mention the only person he has killed was DIO (and Kira in-directly.) and he verbalized he was going to do so. He never verbalized he was going to kill Yellow Temperance, Steely Dan etc.
If he wasn't pulling the punches that means everyone is on the same durability as DIO... which makes no ******* sense. He's a vampire and they're all humans, yet they can take the same kind of damage?
That's why the decision was made to downgrade them from City Block+ to just City Block, in order to reflect the difference between Jotaro trying to kill you and Jotaro holding back.
This was agreed upon in the latest revision.
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I do agree with this but could you remind me again why Kira wasn't affected by this revision?
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His atomic destruction will be adjusted in wording but his (non-existent) soul destruction will have to remain. We did not have enough votes to warrant one side or the other, and two of the biggest contributors of that thread and JoJo on vsbattle in general are gone.
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No, I meant his durabilty being downgraded. Wasn't Jotaro holding back when he beat up Kira?
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Let's not derail the thread.
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Oh, sorry. I'll stop talking about it now.
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You're good my dude.
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I will use my better judgement and see if that is the only thing he scales to.Standuser081 said:
If yes, then yes his dura would be downgraded with the rest.
I am planning on doing all of this early early morning.
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