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It's not stated. Its implied and shown to your face.
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Truth-Seeking Ball
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When? just because the clothes of Minato didnt disappear can be also simply mistake of Kishi,you have others examples that prove it?
And by the way,you know also why tobirama didnt dust when Madara put inside him the TSK? (chapter 661) he don't have Sennin Mode if i remember right
And by the way,you know also why tobirama didnt dust when Madara put inside him the TSK? (chapter 661) he don't have Sennin Mode if i remember right
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The Chakra Rods aren't TSBs. And its implied that same chapter Minato works, out the plan to help gagai or the one before that.
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Ryop : And by the way,you know also why tobirama didnt dust when Madara put inside him the TSK? (chapter 661) he don't have Sennin Mode if i remember right
its called Black Receiver
its rinnagan power
rsm power = TSB
@BarryAllen2.0 wrote:
TSB Abilities = Molecular Disintegratio
tsb can also erase soul minato lost part of his soul it was erased via tsb http://imgur.com/QHryerS
so what level of Matter Manipulation 1 needed to disntegrate soul
copy past from powerlisting.wikia.com
Since this power doesn't allow manipulation of sub-atomic particles, it can't be used to create completely new elements/atoms.
if Subatomic Manipulation = creating completely new elements
souldnt tsb =Subatomic Manipulation
i mean TSB user can creat new elements
from DB
Truthseeker Orbs
Listed as just a Ninjutsu (not Kekkei Mōra), used by Madara, Obito, and Naruto. It says that when an individual manifests (literally "blossoms" ÚûïÞè▒) Six Paths Senjutsu, black orbs comprising the power of all five elements and yin-yang appear, forming a circle that floats behind them. They can manipulate each orb independently. Each orb is about the size of a fist and hides within enough power to completely obliterate a forest. With the power of Creation of All Things, put simply, the shape of the black orbs can be freely altered, and the many natures comprising them can be combined to manifest a variety of effects. It is a power that easily exceeds both Kekkei Genkai and Kekkei Tōta.
PS: I need to make a minor (okay, somewhat major) correction on the Truthseeker Orbs thing.
I accidentally translated the phrase shinra bansho as "creation of all things," but it actually means "all of creation" or "everything in the universe." It's not saying that they're using the Ninjutsu "Creation of All Things" to manipulate/control the Truthseeker Orbs, but rather that they're using "the power of the universe".
its called Black Receiver
its rinnagan power
rsm power = TSB
@BarryAllen2.0 wrote:
TSB Abilities = Molecular Disintegratio
tsb can also erase soul minato lost part of his soul it was erased via tsb http://imgur.com/QHryerS
so what level of Matter Manipulation 1 needed to disntegrate soul
copy past from powerlisting.wikia.com
Since this power doesn't allow manipulation of sub-atomic particles, it can't be used to create completely new elements/atoms.
if Subatomic Manipulation = creating completely new elements
souldnt tsb =Subatomic Manipulation
i mean TSB user can creat new elements
from DB
Truthseeker Orbs
Listed as just a Ninjutsu (not Kekkei Mōra), used by Madara, Obito, and Naruto. It says that when an individual manifests (literally "blossoms" ÚûïÞè▒) Six Paths Senjutsu, black orbs comprising the power of all five elements and yin-yang appear, forming a circle that floats behind them. They can manipulate each orb independently. Each orb is about the size of a fist and hides within enough power to completely obliterate a forest. With the power of Creation of All Things, put simply, the shape of the black orbs can be freely altered, and the many natures comprising them can be combined to manifest a variety of effects. It is a power that easily exceeds both Kekkei Genkai and Kekkei Tōta.
PS: I need to make a minor (okay, somewhat major) correction on the Truthseeker Orbs thing.
I accidentally translated the phrase shinra bansho as "creation of all things," but it actually means "all of creation" or "everything in the universe." It's not saying that they're using the Ninjutsu "Creation of All Things" to manipulate/control the Truthseeker Orbs, but rather that they're using "the power of the universe".
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Isn't the Black Receiver to like incapacitate your opponent like what Madara did to Tobirama?
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@Omimi
I've said this to you before and I will say it again because this is starting to get tiresome.
TSBs do NOT under any circumstances erase the soul. If it did, Minato would not have been able to return to the afterlife. What it did do was disrupt the Edo Tensei's ability to keep Minato's body's form together as explained in the series. Drop this line of reasoning immediately.
I willing to say that Dust Release disintegrates targets at the molecular level, but there is nothing indicating that it works on the subatomic level since there are repeated statements that it works at the molecular level. No level of matter manipulation will erase the soul since the latter is not physical in nature.
By elements, the description is referring to chemical elements like Gold and Silver, not elemental effects like Wind and Fire. You're not reading into this carefully at all.
Long story short, ability to nullify non-natural energy based attacks (needs to be discussed on a per case basis) and molecular-level disintegration are reasonable. The rest are not from my perspective.
I've said this to you before and I will say it again because this is starting to get tiresome.
TSBs do NOT under any circumstances erase the soul. If it did, Minato would not have been able to return to the afterlife. What it did do was disrupt the Edo Tensei's ability to keep Minato's body's form together as explained in the series. Drop this line of reasoning immediately.
I willing to say that Dust Release disintegrates targets at the molecular level, but there is nothing indicating that it works on the subatomic level since there are repeated statements that it works at the molecular level. No level of matter manipulation will erase the soul since the latter is not physical in nature.
By elements, the description is referring to chemical elements like Gold and Silver, not elemental effects like Wind and Fire. You're not reading into this carefully at all.
Long story short, ability to nullify non-natural energy based attacks (needs to be discussed on a per case basis) and molecular-level disintegration are reasonable. The rest are not from my perspective.
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sry but u didnt answer my question last timeReppuzan said:
so i will just copy past
u said :Yin-Tang Release present in TSBs interferes with the process that binds their bodies together
if what u said truth
then why his arm wasnt there when EDO was released
his hand should be still on there/earth cuz his soul wasnt even sommon from after life/from any place
his soul was on earth without any jutsu
Minato's soul was just fine
his soul missing arm and u say his soul was just fine
this is his soul not his edo body
+TSBs do NOT under any circumstances erase the soul. If it did, Minato would not have been able to return to the afterlife
+ he arms was erase and it didnt return even after EDO was released
+ TSB didnt erase whole soul it only erase onlly part of soul /his arms
u yourself saying that if somthing was was erase that will not return so
tell me if his arms wasnt erase than why his arms did not return even after EDO was released
i dont understand why r u keep saying this to me
Edo Tensei's ability to keep Minato's body's
i didnt even show u edo Minato's body
i gave u an image of minato soul after EDO was released
did u miss that minato soul left his edo body or what
give an answer and i will drop it
I willing to say that Dust Release disintegrates targets at the molecular level, but there is nothing indicating that it works on the subatomic level since there are repeated statements that it works at the molecular level. No level of matter manipulation will erase the soul since the latter is not physical in nature.
Dust Release is 1 of many ability of TSB
Yin-Tang Release is not Dust Release
Dust Release of TSB = Matter Manipulation
Yin-Tang Release = Void Manipulation
they r not same u didnt ans my question last time
i agree that Dust Release of TSB = molecular-level disintegration
but here am talking about Yin-Tang Release / Void Manipulation
u do agree that Yin-Tang Release and Dust Release of TSB r not the same things
TSB has lots of ability Matter Manipulation only 1 of them
+TSB has power to combined any natures to manifest a variety of effects
here other ability of TSB
naruto used tsb as lightning rod ,to immobilize/seal madara limbo and immobilise Black Zetsu and used it Platform for sasuke to use
obito used it to heal himself , to creat Six Red Yang Formatioand created Sword of Nunoboko which has power to shape the world and + its powered by user willpower
kaguya can create dimension and can erase dimension
Toneri Ōtsutsuki used to create Silver Wheel Reincarnation Explosio and Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosio and create a cage
tsb has Dust Release/Matter Manipulation
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1) If you watched the series, you'd know that the image of the disintegrating Edo Tensei body leaves the world first before the soul does. What you're showing is the body, not Minato's soul. Big difference.
2) Not all Matter Manipulation is created equal. Dust Release can bust down to molecules, Saint Seiya can bust down to the subatomic level.
3) Provide evidence that Yin-Yang Release provides Void Manipulation powers, since I recall none of the sort from the series. In addition, TSBs' effects are the result of the conglomeration of all the basic elemental affinities and Yin-Yang Release, meaning their the twos' abilities are not mutually exclusive as they must be together to work the way the TSB does.
4) Just because one user can use a TSB a certain way doesn't mean another can. Giving a sword to two different swordsmen of two different schools and experience levels will lead to very different results. We can only use what each character has shown. You can mention what each individual character has shown with a TSB, but you can't cross scale them. Drop the Sword of Nunoboko talk as well. It's more flowery language indicating the the Six Paths' power is above everything else.
2) Not all Matter Manipulation is created equal. Dust Release can bust down to molecules, Saint Seiya can bust down to the subatomic level.
3) Provide evidence that Yin-Yang Release provides Void Manipulation powers, since I recall none of the sort from the series. In addition, TSBs' effects are the result of the conglomeration of all the basic elemental affinities and Yin-Yang Release, meaning their the twos' abilities are not mutually exclusive as they must be together to work the way the TSB does.
4) Just because one user can use a TSB a certain way doesn't mean another can. Giving a sword to two different swordsmen of two different schools and experience levels will lead to very different results. We can only use what each character has shown. You can mention what each individual character has shown with a TSB, but you can't cross scale them. Drop the Sword of Nunoboko talk as well. It's more flowery language indicating the the Six Paths' power is above everything else.
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shouldnt this be in the questions forum?
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Reppuzan said:
r u saying this is his body ------------------------------------------>
pls re-read it again cause i am 100% its his soul------------>
u can ask others if u dont believe me b4 that read the chapter 691
http://mangalife.us/read-online/Naruto-chapter-691.html
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@Omimi
You can link that picture as many times as you want. that's not Minato's soul leaving, it's his body first.
For the record, I did re-read the chapter. Several times.
Even if this were true. That means that Madara's Limbo Clones should have been dead after being stabbed with TSB Rods.
You can link that picture as many times as you want. that's not Minato's soul leaving, it's his body first.
For the record, I did re-read the chapter. Several times.
Even if this were true. That means that Madara's Limbo Clones should have been dead after being stabbed with TSB Rods.
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In the image that Omimi puts is not the soul of Minato but the body made of dust that is created with the Edo Tensei. Certainly it is not mentioned at any time that the Gudodama can damage the soul of the opponent, only destroy his body and annul the infinite Regenerationn of the Edo Tensei, not even because the discussion was diverted to it.
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Yeah, this should just be closed, I think.
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