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Information type 2 to magic.
Magic is a fundamental aspect of Magus because magic is what makes Magus exist in the world. Magic operates through three key processes:
More about magic is fundamental nature to their being: Since magic power is described as maintaining a person's existence, it also implies that it sustains their identity, presence, and actions within the world. Without this power, their very essence would cease to exist. This is further supported by how Anna was going to disappear completely, along with all of her memories and entire presence in the world along with her soul , as if she never existed, should she have used up all of her magic power supplied by her spirits. Later, Arata eventually needed to pour most of his magic power in order to sustain her existence and presence in the world. This shows that all the information validating her existence would simply disappear along with her, more information type 2. (56 and 57)
The same goes for memories in maintaining their individual existence in the world. When all their memories disappear from the world, their very existence would also disappear altogether by default. another example, when Liese's memories disappeared from the world, her entire existence disappeared as well. Memories are calculated as information and are also referred to as data, as shown when Liese called Hijiri memories about the Goddess of Deep Darkness as data. This was further proven when Liese was transferring Aries's memories to Lilith, and the memories were called data. Thus, memories are interchangeable with data and information and are fundamental to one's existence. ( 134,88,115,137 and Trinity Seven: Liese Chronicle chapter:16 )
Memories are intertwined with magic and souls, as shown with Anna above . When she used up her magic, her soul and memories would disappear by default. To further support this, when Aries fully recovered her memories about Liese and was going to return them to her, it was said that she returned her magic. Soul, magic, and essence are also used interchangeably. Magic is called the root of one's existence. Soul, memories, and mind are used interchangeably and are already accepted here, but I will add it:
In the verse, characters' spirit is the same as their existence, the same as their nature, and the same as their soul. With that, they are interchangeable in the verse. Spirit and magic are also interchangeable since when one restores their spirit, they are restoring their magic. Will is also a fundamental component of magic; therefore, will and magic are interconnected and magic itself is life energy.
With that, data = soul = essence = magic = will = mind = memories = spirit = nature = existence = life energy = information type 2. Adding more about magic: When Lilith transferred her magic to give Liese a boost, it was said she transferred data and knowledge, similar to what Arata did during the three processes to be able to use Liese's magic. with that, magic is structured as information and data, which can change all laws of the world, including the law of causality, change the world itself, and alter reality and the narrative itself,concepts etc (137,66,36,trinity seven:Revision chapter 11)
You can already see that the three processes needed to use magic involve information manipulation, but they also have a statement that says they manipulate magic. ( Trinity Seven: Revision chapter 2)
Additionally, the fundamental basis, structure, and underlying principle of magic is said to be knowledge, and the amount of knowledge one has equates to one's strength of magic. She also used them interchangeably, saying she will send a massive amount of magic to Arata and then mentioned he will gain tons of information. This relates to stage of one is existence the soul level. The higher one's magic or knowledge, the higher the soul level, and consequently, the more wisdom one will have. In the verse, knowledge is power. Shadows of gods feed on the knowledge,souls etc of mages, using the magical knowledge they consume to become stronger. Additionally, knowledge and wisdom are core components of all things,all beings and all worlds in the verse. (128,127 and glossary 95 and 96)
Another piece of synonyms of magic and information.
Again with LILITH, with a spell called "realize" that activates her alchemic power. The word needed to execute the "macro" written in her grimoire can unleash an overwhelming amount of knowledge and produce a multitude of "materials." Being able to stabilize and utilize them is what has given Lilith her reputation as a "genius." When she showed it, it was said it unleashed an overwhelming amount of magic power. And magic is said to be a concept of knowledge that can be broken down.
Magic itself in it is very nature is essence themselves. Since there is no stuff like my magic is just a void that reduces all creation to nothing, it will not just be void but magic will be the very essence of void. Even spells will not be just a life spell; it will be essence of all life, one more example like plot manipulation it is not just plot but the very essence the spell, even the power sources are not just that thing and concept but the very essence of what they represent etc. So having magic will always be having the essence itself since magic will always be essence itself for all. The last very good example is Rubine, who embodies and assimilated with the very concept of darkness. After pursuing magic for so long, she became the very essence of darkness. Magic also makes up the root of names, specifically Demon Lord names.
The Demon Lord Factor should also be rated as Information Type 2 as well, since the Demon Lord Factor itself is said to be knowledge that shapes the world into annihilation and destruction, also shaping it into nonexistence. The Demon Lord Factor itself can destroy the world as well, and it is said to be the very essence of a Demon Lord. A demon lord factor is basically interchangeable with a demon lord's soul and magic. Demon lord knights are said to be born from demon lord factors left behind when a demon lord has destroyed the world. A demon lord factor is also called the soul of a demon lord. Demon lord factors are also referred to as the magic of a demon lord. When Evil Liese completely took Arata's magic power, it was said she took his demon lord factor,Lastly, the Arata's Demon Lord Castle is said to use the souls of Demon Lords from lost worlds, and it was said that it runs on Demon Lord factors from ruined worlds,
A great demon lord is the one who reigns over all things and all worlds. A true great demon lord has a core called a demon lord core. It is one of the fundamental components that is a quality defining what-it is-to-be a true great demon lord. Just like a true demon lord, it also rules over everything and is refused by everything. In other words, it is a true essence of great demon lord since it fulfills all the feats needed to be one.The demon lord core is used interchangeably with the soul since when Aryan Celestial was going to take Arata's soul, she was after it. When she didn't find it in Arata's body, she called it a demon lord core. The same goes for the one who saved Arata from that with reincarnation and is called a soul technique, used it to reincarnate Arata. It reincarnated the demon lord core with that. When they say the great demon lord's soul, they mean the demon lord core. Thus interchangeable.
This thread got accepted as spirits/elements and magic are interchangeable. I will add it here too since .
Anastasia-L is said to be a magic user who uses spirit power. Spirit power is magic since, when spirits were giving Anna and Astral Trinity their power, it was said they were giving them magic. In Trinity Seven, when they say power, they mean magic power. Anna’s Thema is Terminus, and Terminus' magic power is called spirits. When they say Demon Lord Castle Noah, which is the very embodiment of Terminus itself, uses magic power from lost worlds, they mean spirits.
Spirits are the very source of magic power that makes up the world. They are the world itself, maintaining its existence and exist in all places and all things. Just like magic with human existence—without magic, they disappear completely or turn into true nothingness. The same goes for spirits. In a world without spirits, everything is nothingness. They are the very foundations of the world and, lastly, the very essence of the world itself.
since spirits = magic = information, that would mean spirits are information that is essential to the worlds themselves. Also, just like humans or magus are life forms with intelligence and knowledge, the worlds themselves are also living things with intellect, etc.
Resistance to data,magic and Information Type 2: Since those who have magic power have resistance to magic.
they should also gain Resistance to magic,data,soul,memory,mind,life and information type 2 : Since when one has magic power, they have magic resistance. The higher one's magic, the higher their resistance, which includes soul-level attacks. Since a soul and magic power are interchangeable, as proven with the Demon Lord's knights. When Demon Lord Anastasia Trinity used a soul-level attack to reincarnate them into another dimension, it didn't affect them because they were high-level magus who had high-level resistance and high level souls. (Trinity Seven: Anastasia Holy Story 13 and 14 ,trinity seven novel chapter 6 and manga 128)
Since magic and all non-physical aspects are interchangeable with magic, for example, taking one's soul is the same as taking their magic etc , they manipulate those aspects due to their ability to manipulate magic.
A Breakdown Phenomenon destroys their entire physical bodies first and then absorbs their consciousness, sending them to the void. With that, it should gain Type 2 information absorption, and characters who resist it gain resistance. (chapter 4 and 28 manga ,novel chapter 6 )
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Information type 2 to magic.
Magic is a fundamental aspect of Magus because magic is what makes Magus exist in the world. Magic operates through three key processes:
- Comprehension: Involves understanding the fundamental properties ,principles and structure of magic itself etc. This means gathering detailed information and data about the magic.
- Deconstruction:Involves breaking down magic's fundamental structure by using reasoning to analyze and dismantle its nature into fundamental components, akin to processing and analyzing detailed structural data to understand its basic building blocks. Magic is a concept of information that is broken down.
- Reconstruction: Involves reassembling the fundamental components of magic into new forms. This stage is akin to using the processed and analyzed data and information to create new structures. Notably, the comprehension and deconstruction stages are essential prerequisites, providing the necessary magical information needed for reconstruction. ( Trinity Seven chapter: 6,13,16,34,133 and 134)
More about magic is fundamental nature to their being: Since magic power is described as maintaining a person's existence, it also implies that it sustains their identity, presence, and actions within the world. Without this power, their very essence would cease to exist. This is further supported by how Anna was going to disappear completely, along with all of her memories and entire presence in the world along with her soul , as if she never existed, should she have used up all of her magic power supplied by her spirits. Later, Arata eventually needed to pour most of his magic power in order to sustain her existence and presence in the world. This shows that all the information validating her existence would simply disappear along with her, more information type 2. (56 and 57)
The same goes for memories in maintaining their individual existence in the world. When all their memories disappear from the world, their very existence would also disappear altogether by default. another example, when Liese's memories disappeared from the world, her entire existence disappeared as well. Memories are calculated as information and are also referred to as data, as shown when Liese called Hijiri memories about the Goddess of Deep Darkness as data. This was further proven when Liese was transferring Aries's memories to Lilith, and the memories were called data. Thus, memories are interchangeable with data and information and are fundamental to one's existence. ( 134,88,115,137 and Trinity Seven: Liese Chronicle chapter:16 )
Memories are intertwined with magic and souls, as shown with Anna above . When she used up her magic, her soul and memories would disappear by default. To further support this, when Aries fully recovered her memories about Liese and was going to return them to her, it was said that she returned her magic. Soul, magic, and essence are also used interchangeably. Magic is called the root of one's existence. Soul, memories, and mind are used interchangeably and are already accepted here, but I will add it:
- When Arata's sealed consciousness and memories return to his physical body, it is said that it is actually his soul that comes back. Additionally, when Pholus attempts to erase Aries's memories, it is mentioned that her mind and soul are on the verge of disappearing from reality. Moreover, when Lilith was looking for which body of Pholus had Aries's soul, she later called it consciousness. A soul has one's biometric information as well. To complete this part of the soul and consciousness, it was completely proven when Graffia, who consumes everything and entire worlds, ate the flesh of Deus Trinity. His soul got destroyed, but later it was called a consciousness, and they said that his consciousness was wiped out. (Trinity Seven: Liese Chronicle 16,115,132,134,137,56 and Trinity Seven: Revision chapter 9)
In the verse, characters' spirit is the same as their existence, the same as their nature, and the same as their soul. With that, they are interchangeable in the verse. Spirit and magic are also interchangeable since when one restores their spirit, they are restoring their magic. Will is also a fundamental component of magic; therefore, will and magic are interconnected and magic itself is life energy.
With that, data = soul = essence = magic = will = mind = memories = spirit = nature = existence = life energy = information type 2. Adding more about magic: When Lilith transferred her magic to give Liese a boost, it was said she transferred data and knowledge, similar to what Arata did during the three processes to be able to use Liese's magic. with that, magic is structured as information and data, which can change all laws of the world, including the law of causality, change the world itself, and alter reality and the narrative itself,concepts etc (137,66,36,trinity seven:Revision chapter 11)
You can already see that the three processes needed to use magic involve information manipulation, but they also have a statement that says they manipulate magic. ( Trinity Seven: Revision chapter 2)
Additionally, the fundamental basis, structure, and underlying principle of magic is said to be knowledge, and the amount of knowledge one has equates to one's strength of magic. She also used them interchangeably, saying she will send a massive amount of magic to Arata and then mentioned he will gain tons of information. This relates to stage of one is existence the soul level. The higher one's magic or knowledge, the higher the soul level, and consequently, the more wisdom one will have. In the verse, knowledge is power. Shadows of gods feed on the knowledge,souls etc of mages, using the magical knowledge they consume to become stronger. Additionally, knowledge and wisdom are core components of all things,all beings and all worlds in the verse. (128,127 and glossary 95 and 96)
Another piece of synonyms of magic and information.
Again with LILITH, with a spell called "realize" that activates her alchemic power. The word needed to execute the "macro" written in her grimoire can unleash an overwhelming amount of knowledge and produce a multitude of "materials." Being able to stabilize and utilize them is what has given Lilith her reputation as a "genius." When she showed it, it was said it unleashed an overwhelming amount of magic power. And magic is said to be a concept of knowledge that can be broken down.
Magic itself in it is very nature is essence themselves. Since there is no stuff like my magic is just a void that reduces all creation to nothing, it will not just be void but magic will be the very essence of void. Even spells will not be just a life spell; it will be essence of all life, one more example like plot manipulation it is not just plot but the very essence the spell, even the power sources are not just that thing and concept but the very essence of what they represent etc. So having magic will always be having the essence itself since magic will always be essence itself for all. The last very good example is Rubine, who embodies and assimilated with the very concept of darkness. After pursuing magic for so long, she became the very essence of darkness. Magic also makes up the root of names, specifically Demon Lord names.
The Demon Lord Factor should also be rated as Information Type 2 as well, since the Demon Lord Factor itself is said to be knowledge that shapes the world into annihilation and destruction, also shaping it into nonexistence. The Demon Lord Factor itself can destroy the world as well, and it is said to be the very essence of a Demon Lord. A demon lord factor is basically interchangeable with a demon lord's soul and magic. Demon lord knights are said to be born from demon lord factors left behind when a demon lord has destroyed the world. A demon lord factor is also called the soul of a demon lord. Demon lord factors are also referred to as the magic of a demon lord. When Evil Liese completely took Arata's magic power, it was said she took his demon lord factor,Lastly, the Arata's Demon Lord Castle is said to use the souls of Demon Lords from lost worlds, and it was said that it runs on Demon Lord factors from ruined worlds,
A great demon lord is the one who reigns over all things and all worlds. A true great demon lord has a core called a demon lord core. It is one of the fundamental components that is a quality defining what-it is-to-be a true great demon lord. Just like a true demon lord, it also rules over everything and is refused by everything. In other words, it is a true essence of great demon lord since it fulfills all the feats needed to be one.The demon lord core is used interchangeably with the soul since when Aryan Celestial was going to take Arata's soul, she was after it. When she didn't find it in Arata's body, she called it a demon lord core. The same goes for the one who saved Arata from that with reincarnation and is called a soul technique, used it to reincarnate Arata. It reincarnated the demon lord core with that. When they say the great demon lord's soul, they mean the demon lord core. Thus interchangeable.
This thread got accepted as spirits/elements and magic are interchangeable. I will add it here too since .
Anastasia-L is said to be a magic user who uses spirit power. Spirit power is magic since, when spirits were giving Anna and Astral Trinity their power, it was said they were giving them magic. In Trinity Seven, when they say power, they mean magic power. Anna’s Thema is Terminus, and Terminus' magic power is called spirits. When they say Demon Lord Castle Noah, which is the very embodiment of Terminus itself, uses magic power from lost worlds, they mean spirits.
Spirits are the very source of magic power that makes up the world. They are the world itself, maintaining its existence and exist in all places and all things. Just like magic with human existence—without magic, they disappear completely or turn into true nothingness. The same goes for spirits. In a world without spirits, everything is nothingness. They are the very foundations of the world and, lastly, the very essence of the world itself.
since spirits = magic = information, that would mean spirits are information that is essential to the worlds themselves. Also, just like humans or magus are life forms with intelligence and knowledge, the worlds themselves are also living things with intellect, etc.
Resistance to data,magic and Information Type 2: Since those who have magic power have resistance to magic.
they should also gain Resistance to magic,data,soul,memory,mind,life and information type 2 : Since when one has magic power, they have magic resistance. The higher one's magic, the higher their resistance, which includes soul-level attacks. Since a soul and magic power are interchangeable, as proven with the Demon Lord's knights. When Demon Lord Anastasia Trinity used a soul-level attack to reincarnate them into another dimension, it didn't affect them because they were high-level magus who had high-level resistance and high level souls. (Trinity Seven: Anastasia Holy Story 13 and 14 ,trinity seven novel chapter 6 and manga 128)
Since magic and all non-physical aspects are interchangeable with magic, for example, taking one's soul is the same as taking their magic etc , they manipulate those aspects due to their ability to manipulate magic.
A Breakdown Phenomenon destroys their entire physical bodies first and then absorbs their consciousness, sending them to the void. With that, it should gain Type 2 information absorption, and characters who resist it gain resistance. (chapter 4 and 28 manga ,novel chapter 6 )
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