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Transformers General Discussion

2020 really screwed our perception of time, to the point that I feel a whole year of my life has been evaporated
 
I'm... Ok with tier 8. Tier 9 is outright gross. Like I ain't indexing the WFC trilogy because they're best feats are like. 9-A and that's gross
 
I don’t have it on me, unfortunately, but I remember that it’s in The Reign of Starscream. I think the first or second issue?
So I think I found what you might be referring to.
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I'm not sure if this qualifies for them being superior. Starscream states: "Superior, hardly" Which seems like he's mocking the form.

That being said, I feel like they should get adaptability for a lot of these characters, as they have shown to adapt to these environments
 
I swear Starscream directly stated that they’re stronger, I’ll try to find it myself.
 
I think they scan seems legit. But would this just be for starscream or for everyone else as well? Also would this rating be something like High 6-C or At least High 6-C?
 
Starscream implied that the Seekers would also become stronger if they took Earth forms, so I think it should be for everyone.

I dunno if it’d be a massive difference, tier-wise, but it should at the least give them Adaptation.
 
Eh, that seems pretty messy. I think putting them in two different keys works better.
 
Without a way to know how much stronger he became? It'd just be "Large Island level | At least Large Island level (Stronger than before)"
 
I feel like the At least maybe unnecessary. I feel just High 6-C for both is better. I also feel this might screw up the scaling a bit.

I guess High 6-C, higher with adaptability may work? I don't see why they should stay 7-B.
 
Didn't the 7-B Feat come from Shockwave being knocked out by causing the Tunguska Event or whatever it was?
7-B mainly came from two things. Shockwave crashing on earth and causing Tunguska and Starscream surviving the explosion of trypticon. The first feat is actually Low 7-B to 7-B but I ranked it as 7-B as 15 megatons was the most consistent result of Tunguska I could find. The second feat is unquantifiable because we don't have a solid size for trypticon. But we do know Cybertronian cities are much larger than earth cities at the very least. So it's unquantifiably above 7-B
 
7-B mainly came from two things. Shockwave crashing on earth and causing Tunguska and Starscream surviving the explosion of trypticon. The first feat is actually Low 7-B to 7-B but I ranked it as 7-B as 15 megatons was the most consistent result of Tunguska I could find. The second feat is unquantifiable because we don't have a solid size for trypticon. But we do know Cybertronian cities are much larger than earth cities at the very least. So it's unquantifiably above 7-B
Hence why I feel like "At least City level" is fine, we have more feats on the City level range.

I believe someone on the TFW forums also once showed me that Bayformers Soundwave in the comics survived a nuke-like explosion.
 
Hence why I feel like "At least City level" is fine, we have more feats on the City level range.

I believe someone on the TFW forums also once showed me that Bayformers Soundwave in the comics survived a nuke-like explosion.
I don't exactly remember that happening tbh. It probably happened in nefarious. So I might check over there.
 
Just wanna note that Starscream surviving the explosion of Trypticon would actually be way lower than 7-B, because he wouldn’t be taking the full yield of the explosion.
 
Fair, but then again, a cybertron city, or trypticon in particular, is quite large so I doubt he would be that low ngl.
 
It’s just unquantifiable tbh, the only actual 7-B feat would be Shockwave causing the Tunguska Impact
 
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