Transformers Animated: 7-B Upgrade + Inorganic Physiology

[Ednaxel2]

Inorganic Physiology​

Self explanatory, they are living inorganic alien robots it doesn't go deeper than that.

7-B​

Currently this justification is used on Megatron's profile

Durability: Small City level (Survived the explosion of a shatter bomb, two of which would have destroyed half of Detroit, although he was heavily crippled)

Which is the reason why everyone is Low 7-B (Scaling comparably to/downscaling from him). However there is no proper calc for this and it's Low 7-B just under the assumption that "oh it can destroy part of Detroit but not completely". Therefore a proper calc is needed for this, which has been done:

Megatron tanks a shatter bomb

vsbattles.fandom.com

This is taking into account that it still is 7-B, even though it's only half of Detroit and that it's the work of two of these bombs. With this change in mind, everyone who is Low 7-B just gets upgraded to 7-B.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I disagree with Inorganic Physiology, it seems too much of a stretch

Jokes aside, this looks fine

 

[Propellus]

Both Inorganic Physiology and 7-B is fine

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Looks fine to me

 

[Dalesean027]

This is fine

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

I’ve been working on a full scaling revision for a while, I’ve just been very busy with life, but we absolutely should not scale any of the Autobots (aside from Endgame Optimus) to Megatron, he is consistently shown to be incomprehensibly stronger than them. The feat we should use for now is Bumblebee tanking an explosion in Nanosec.

 

[Drite77]

Why not halve the result of the bomb destroying Detroit (For half the city) instead of cutting the radius of Detroit in half?

 

[Drite77]

I’ve been working on a full scaling revision for a while, I’ve just been very busy with life, but we absolutely should not scale any of the Autobots (aside from Endgame Optimus) to Megatron, he is consistently shown to be incomprehensibly stronger than them. The feat we should use for now is Bumblebee tanking an explosion in Nanosec.

Was that ever recalced using ISL?

 

[Ednaxel2]

I’ve been working on a full scaling revision for a while, I’ve just been very busy with life, but we absolutely should not scale any of the Autobots (aside from Endgame Optimus) to Megatron, he is consistently shown to be incomprehensibly stronger than them.

I'm in the middle of the show right now and I've had the same thoughts on Megatron's chain scaling so far.

The feat we should use for now is Bumblebee tanking an explosion in Nanosec.

I've seen a lot of Spongebob a## explosions in the show so far but that one also looks good. Is there any current calculation for it?

 

[Ednaxel2]

Why not halve the result of the bomb destroying Detroit (For half the city) instead of cutting the radius of Detroit in half?

Why half the result instead of the size of the explosion?

 

[Drite77]

Why half the result instead of the size of the explosion?

Big numba is bigger

 

[Drite77]

I've seen a lot of Spongebob a## explosions in the show so far but that one also looks good. Is there any current calculation for it?

Yes, but does not take ISL into account

 

[Ednaxel2]

Yes, but does not take ISL into account

Could you still link it? I might look into it more

If we have no other proper calc then the scaling chain should be handled in another thread

Big numba is bigger

idk about that, but if the calc members here agree then sure

 

[Drite77]

Big numba is bigger

To add to this, a circle with hald the radius doesn't have an area half of a circle twice as big, it has an area 4 times smaller, so each individual bomb you calculated is actually just an 8th of Detroit instead of a 4th anyway

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

I've seen a lot of Spongebob a## explosions in the show so far but that one also looks good. Is there any current calculation for it?

We need a recalc, but the last one was island level iirc. Also, for speed, there’s the Lockdown EMP calc which is ftl.

 

[Drite77]

Could you still link it? I might look into it more

If we have no other proper calc then the scaling chain should be handled in another thread

After this valorant match, sure

 

[Ednaxel2]

To add to this, a circle with hald the radius doesn't have an area half of a circle twice as big, it has an area 4 times smaller, so each individual bomb you calculated is actually just an 8th of Detroit instead of a 4th anyway

Ah that's true, I'll add it as a separate end then

 

[Ednaxel2]

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Megatron tanks a shatter bomb

vsbattles.fandom.com

May you two please look into the new end of this calc and decide whether it should be used over the old one?

 

[Drite77]

Could you still link it? I might look into it more

If we have no other proper calc then the scaling chain should be handled in another thread

Bumblebee survives an explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

Once again, Bumblebee is very far away from the explosion, so it wouldn't scale to the full yield of it

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

I’ve been working on a full scaling revision for a while, I’ve just been very busy with life, but we absolutely should not scale any of the Autobots (aside from Endgame Optimus) to Megatron, he is consistently shown to be incomprehensibly stronger than them. The feat we should use for now is Bumblebee tanking an explosion in Nanosec.

No this is the feat we should be using

As well as this one


This as well

And this

Making 6-C consistent for everyone

 

[Drite77]

No the feat

No this is the feat we should be using

As well as this one


This as well

And this

Making 6-C consistent for everyone

huh, neat

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

No the feat

No this is the feat we should be using

Fair

As well as this one

Only Omega scales

This as well

Questionable canonicity

And this

Megatron was damaged, and the feat is questionable for a few reasons.

Making 6-C consistent for everyone

Bumblebee might need an at-most.

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

Only Omega scales

Megatron is able to burn a hole through him in the premiere and Decepticons was able to slightly harm him and bring him down to his knee so they would downscale

 

[Drite77]

Megatron is able to burn a hole through him in the premiere and Decepticons was able to slightly harm him and bring him down to his knee so they would downscale

I don't think Megatron doing a small hole on Omega Supreme means he scales to him '-'

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

I don't think Megatron doing a small hole on Omega Supreme means he scales to him '-'

Hence why I said downscale. Also it does since it’s literal damage to Omega lol

Plus Starscream’s bomb was enough to go through the hull, so it’s definitely an at most situation

 

[Drite77]

Hence why I said downscale. Also it does since it’s literal damage to Omega lol

Plus Starscream’s bomb was enough to go through the hull, so it’s definitely an at most situation

I suppose it isn't really that important to talk about it given there are other feats, but no, it wouldn't scale. If that was the only feat I don't think that small hole would really be enough to justify 6-C or even High 7-A, it is too small when compared to Omega Supreme's whole body '-'

 

[Starbrand_Fan]

I suppose it isn't really that important to talk about it given there are other feats, but no, it wouldn't scale. If that was the only feat I don't think that small hole would really be enough to justify 6-C or even High 7-A, it is too small when compared to Omega Supreme's whole body '-'

Do you not know what downscaling is…we do this on the wiki all the time

 

[Drite77]

Do you not know what downscaling is…we do this on the wiki all the time

Yeah, what I said is that Megatron making a small hole on the big Omega Supreme wouldn't be enough for a downscale imo '-'. Like I said, not really relevant given there are more 6-C feats but ¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[ByAsura]

OP seems fine.

Might be worth looking into this feat if we're discussing calculations. It'd scale somewhat to Optimus and Bulkhead, but I don't think it'd scale to Ratchet since Blitzwing froze him and broke off his arm once.

I don't think Megatron doing a small hole on Omega Supreme means he scales to him '-'

It does mean he scales above at least some nuclear weapons.

Speaking of, I think it's reasonable to scale Omega Supreme's firepower (which tends to either disable or break up Decepticons on the level of Starscream and Lugnut) to nukes from what I said here.

but we absolutely should not scale any of the Autobots (aside from Endgame Optimus) to Megatron, he is consistently shown to be incomprehensibly stronger than them

I think we can downscale. Megatron can harm characters as strong as himself, and the Autobots can typically withstand large amounts of Decepticon firepower (as long as it's not a bladed weapon).