Toaru x Virtual On crossover profiles

[LazyHunter]

The crossover between Toaru Majutsu no Index and Virtual On was recently translated, and I have some doubts.

1) I know pages for alternate versions of canon characters are only allowed if they are sufficiently notable/different from the originals. Would the crossover versions of Touma, Accelerator and Mikoto fulfill this condition? In the crossover, they mainly fight by using Virtuaroids, which would be "at least Building level" small mechs. Mikoto and Accelerator's Virtuaroid also have their esper powers included in the Virtuaroid, while Touma only does that at the end of the novel and is a self-destruction move so his IB is mostly discarded during the novel. Accelerator is also one of the people who can manifest Virtuaroid weapons while out of them, which he uses to pull a scythe that has some mind and memory manipulation powers.

The crossover novel proved to be more popular than expected and had to be reprinted. Due to its success, they are also making a game for it.

Of course, if the pages were done the alternate Accelerator would also need to be locked.

2) This one I'm a bit more doubtful. There's a special being called Tangram that originates in Virtual On. However, the version in the crossover appears to be much more powerful than the original. The original appears to be the last boss in one of the arcade games and thus should be defeatable by regular Virtuaroids, while the crossover version would be an "at least 2-A" reality warper. Would the crossover version be a valid page or not?

 

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[DontTalk]

Off-topic: At least 2-A reality warper? What did it do, defeat a magic god? Now that I have caught up with beatrice I really have to read that novel, huh.

On-topic: Tangram might be noticeable due to the large power discrepancy with its original version, so I am fine with that. Especially since we don't have Virtual on pages to begin with and I doubt we will get them.


For the Virtuaroids it seems for me to be ok, since they are originals from the crossover and the crossover is sufficiently popular.

For alternate versions of accel I am not so sure. I think we generally don't scale the crossover stats of characters to the originals (because of possible verse-equilization for the sake of plot), meaning that the alternate version would possibly lack feats.


As I understood from your explanation all new abilities come from the Virtuaroids, so that the alternate version would be basically identical except equipment.

If so for accel and similar and might be a better approach to just create the Virtuaroids as weapons/equipment and equip it to the canon characters for usage if one wants to use the "alternate versions" in battle.


I am not a great expert on the topic of alternate canon, though. So more opinions would be good.

 

[LazyHunter]

Off-topic: It's a good crossover, worth it just for one Touma/Accelerator scene. You'll know which if you read it. Magic side characters aren't involved, only one that shows up for one scene is Tsuchimikado, since the incident was solved before they could get involved.

For Tangram, maybe it would be better to describe it as a machine, rather than a being, though it is somewhat sentient. It's a "Space-Time Continuum Control Mechanism" created by the leading scientist of Virtual On. So far it fits what the Virtual On wiki says about it.

But in the crossover the Tangram is described to be "the ruler at the center of all things" and simultaneously "existing in every parallel world". The crossover's "world" is an infinite multiverse, and controlling the Tangram gives you free reign over any part of it, allowing you to modify the laws of reality, space, time, fate, causality, etc... or even create your own personal parallel world.

The Tangram
According to information from another dimension, it is a Space-Time Continuum Control Mechanism that can be called "the entity at the center of all things" and that is "a single entity that also simultaneously has alibis in every single parallel world". Successfully contacting it provides control of time, causality, destiny, and all else that is similarly beyond reach, so it places the world in the palm of your hand.

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The Tangram is an existence that can be called the central point of all things. It is a single existence, yet it simultaneously holds alibis in all parallel worlds. Successfully contacting it will place the entire world in the palm of your hand. You will be able to manipulate time, causality, destiny, and all such unreachable things. On the other hand, the Tangram has something like a will of its own, so even if you do contact it, it will reject you if you are not accepted. That rejection takes an incredibly simple form. The power of the Tangram eternally exiles you to one of the infinitely expanding parallel worlds and you trade places with the same person in a different dimension.

[...]

"It's useless. The Tangram is the highest being that binds all dimensions together, but it also chooses who can contact it. Those who are rejected are repelled and vanish into one of the infinite parallel worlds. And they are swapped out by someone from that world. You are not qualified. As far as I know, only the 'Plajiner' girl has ever accomplished that."

[...]

The Tangram was an incomprehensible being that looked biological yet also dull and bland. But it had changed. Its appearance remained the same, but he could sense something oozing out from within.

It was almost like someone had accessed a previously automated robot and was now controlling it remotely.

But who could do that?

This being existed across every dimension and parallel world, reigned as the gatekeeper and ruler, and would eternally exile those it rejected to a random world. Who was the one and only person with the authorization to fully access the Tangram despite the risk?

The Tangram exists in its own little realm, and you apparently need Plajiner to access it.

What time was it, what was this place, and how much distance was there?

Kamijou Touma did not know.

He could not perceive his own body, much less anyone else. He had his five senses but not his body. Not even the translucent body seen in out-of-body experiences in movies and dramas. He felt helpless, like he was a worthless speck of light in an inconceivably vast world.

No, that was not it.

The helplessness and loneliness may have come from the lack of warmth in his arms from the girl he was supposedly holding.

(Where's Furashina…!?)

He had no idea what was going on, but Kamijou still looked around.

As soon as he shifted his focus to the outside world, the scene changed.

It was like the entire universe had opened up.

The distinction between front and back, left and right, and even up and down had little meaning in this infinitely expanding space. Points of light flashed here and there in the dark space. He could not tell if they were expressing a will like his own or if they indicated stars or worlds.

But there was something with an overwhelming presence in the center of the space.

It looked like the ultimate manmade object and also like a biological eyeball.

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(That is not 'of' our world. It shouldn't be there.)

No, that was not quite accurate.

It was everywhere and crossed between every world, but that was why it could not be allowed to remain in a single world and be monopolized by that world. So as the puny resident of a single world, Kamijou felt a pain as he viewed it. It felt like an invisible "heart" or "soul" within him was being worn away.

This was the ruler and gatekeeper that connected every parallel world.

Rules over an infinite amount of parallel worlds, including Toaru's. "Dimension" and "parallel world" are used interchangeably when talking about it, and I guess we can't use the canon 11 dimensions of Toaru's universe, so I guess it would be just 2-A.

Your idea of making the Virtuaroid pages as equipment/weapons sounds alright. Accelerator does not have feats in the crossover, so if we can't use the canon stats it would be just an Unknown key and a Virtuaroid key.

 

[LazyHunter]

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[Reppuzan]

@Lazy

Not an expert on either verse, but since you've already started making profiles I think it's alright, and the focus on the Virtuaroids should make it sufficiently different to matter.

2-A sounds alright for the Tangram though.

 

[LazyHunter]

Yeah, the crossover Virtuaroids appear to be slightly different from the canon ones and lack some of their abilities, so taking DontTalk's suggestion and making them independent as a non-canon weapon seems harmless. No need for alternate character pages as the only thing you need to use the alternate characters of the crossover is give the canon character their Virtuaroid.

So Tangram is the remaining issue to ask about, and he would be a pretty common 2-A, with no strong hax. Not sure how to take the "exists at the center of the multiverse and simultaneously in every parallel world", would that be some sort of Nigh-Omnipresence?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Lazy

Nigh-Omnipresence would work, given that the Seven Great Demon Lords of Digimon exist in a similar manner.

 

[LazyHunter]

Thanks.