To your eternity ( the beholder CRT)

[Pedonar]

since his character already reached the end of his story In chapter 164.2 and the arc already ended , i think its the best time to update his profile and i hope @DontTalkDT agrees

He shows In chapter 160.2



Power bestow and Subjective Reality

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Conceptual Manipulation, reality warping, Weather Manipulation,Law Manipulation, large size, Omniscience , omnipresence and Memory Manipulation

Possibly Quantum Manipulation , Mathematics Manipulation , Abstract Existence and maybe Fate

he/they created the word he/they give everything a meaning and can manipulate anything and his power was referred as ”omnipotent “

 

[YungManzi]

Hmm . A lot can be interpreted from these scans I can see causality and time manipulation as well as fate; since he designed the world so that it could naturally change and “revolve” on its own .

He also created every sensation other than his own existence.

Also type 1 information

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Power bestow and Subjective Reality

Agree.

Conceptual Manipulation

Nothing seems conceptual here...

reality warping, Weather Manipulation,Law Manipulation, large size

I agree with this.

Omniscience , omnipresence

Need more contexts and scans for this.

Possibly Quantum Manipulation , Mathematics Manipulation , Abstract Existence and maybe Fate.

This is the same. Need more contexts and scans. Even if it's just possibilities.

he/they created the word he/they give everything a meaning and can manipulate anything and his power was referred as ”omnipotent “

i dont know

Scan for this please?

 

[Pedonar]

Agree.

Nothing seems conceptual here...

Need more contexts and scans for this.

I'm not sure but from what he said/showed he gives every creation a meaning and there were geometric shapes and atoms.....

This is the same. Need more contexts and scans. Even if it's just possibilities.

omniscience and omnipresence cause he is the creator of the world and u can check the fourth page of the second link

Scan for this please?

here

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

omniscience and omnipresence cause he is the creator of the world and u can check the fourth page of the second link

Where the second link?

 

[Pedonar]

Where the second link?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

I'm not sure but from what he said/showed he gives every creation a meaning and there were geometric shapes and atoms.....

Where is the scan for he giving every creation a meaning?

This is more of cosmic awareness bruh.
Omniscience and omnipresence should have a clearer context and scan.

 

[Pedonar]

Where is the scan for he giving every creation a meaning?

same link

This is more of cosmic awareness bruh.
Omniscience and omnipresence should have a clearer context and scan.

maybe u are right with omnipresence

but he should get omniscient even if it was not mentioned cause he is the creator

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

same link

Here are the types of Concept, you must prove the concept in the verse qualified to become Conceptual Manipulation

1. Independent Universal Concepts: Such concepts are completely independent from the part of reality they govern, except maybe of other concepts of this nature. These concepts shape all of reality within their area of influence and at whatever level that area exists in, and everything in it "participates" in these concepts. For example, a circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

2. Dependent Concepts: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality within their area of influence. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the concept itself. These concepts, however, exist simultaneously with and are bound by the object of the concept. In this way, an abstract dependent concept can be destroyed by destroying all objects of the concept, restored by re-making an object of a previously existent concept, or changed by changing all objects of the concept across reality. This, however, does not qualify for this form of conceptual manipulation, and is rather treated as a by-product of another action akin to a "domino effect". This type of conceptual manipulation can only be obtained if the abstract concept itself is changed directly, and not by indirect methods. For example, destroying humanity and thus "ending the concept of humanity" would not qualify, while directly "ending the concept of humanity" and thus destroying humanity would qualify.

3. Lesser Fundamental Concepts: Concepts that don't meet the same standards as Type 1 or Type 2, such as personal concepts that continue to govern the object in question, merely on a more specific scale, or concepts whose nature is not elaborated upon. Case-by-case specifications and explanations are necessary for such concepts and examples, and they are likely not going to meet the same standards for abilities such as High-Godly regeneration that other concepts may. Conceptual manipulation of this type can be resisted by those who resist sufficiently similar abilities, even if the exact mechanics may differ.

 

[Pedonar]

Here are the types of Concept, you must prove the concept in the verse qualified to become Conceptual Manipulation

most likely what was mentioned is concepts but to be sure I will wait for @DontTalkDT or someone who knows about concepts

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

most likely what was mentioned is concepts but to be sure I will wait for @DontTalkDT or someone who knows about concepts

At most, it qualify for type 3 concept.

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Mathematics Manipulation

Yeah, no. Nothing indicates Math is being manipulated in any of that scan.
So I'm not agreeing on this.

reality warping,Law Manipulation, large size

Reasonable agree.

Weather Manipulation

Where is the indication of this? Or is it your conclusion that they created the world so they can also control weathers?

Power bestow and Subjective Reality

This is fine.

Omniscience , omnipresence and Memory Manipulation

I'm iffy on this.
The entity on themselves feels confused by the unknown behaviour of their creation, "Not knowing or understanding why the people gather around corpse" so IMO it's more like Cosmic Awareness than Omniscience. Unless of course there's a statement that explicitly say the entity is Omniscience.

I also disagree on Omnipresence because the narrative portray the entity not existing everwhere at the same time. Hence the quote "I want to enter the realm of Dust," because they exist outside of it, while Omnipresence (at least the literal meaning of it) require the character existing everywhere across space-time.

Where Memory Manipulation came?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Where is the indication of this? Or is it your conclusion that they created the world so they can also control weathers?

The second scan on page 4 bottom right

"I caused snow to fall, storm to blow"

 

[Pedonar]

I'm iffy on this.
The entity on themselves feels confused by the unknown behaviour of their creation, "Not knowing or understanding why the people gather around corpse" so IMO it's more like Cosmic Awareness than Omniscience. Unless of course there's a statement that explicitly say the entity is Omniscience.

yes cause he doesn't understand human emotions and then he created Fushi to understand them

Where Memory Manipulation came?

I will upload it when I find the scan, but that's how he ended his story

he erased his memory and lived as a human and possibly gave up his power to Fushi

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

The second scan on page 4 bottom right

Ah, I apologize for not seeing that line.
Good to me.

I will upload it when I find the scan, but that's how he ended his story

he erased his memory and lived as a human and possibly gave up his power to Fushi

Ah, okay. That is indeed Memory manipulation.

 

[DontTalkDT]

First, what you didn't mention: Obviously an upgrade to 3-A stats for creating the universe.

Since he can move everything... telekinesis, I guess?

Power bestowal, subjective reality, memory manipulation, reality warping and weather manipulation are ok.

Cosmic Awareness would be fine. Not omniscience, though.

Law is... probably fine.

I think there is no indication of quantum, mathematics, abstract existence (they likely exist as souls i.e. Fye), fate or concept manipulation.

Assuming that Black Hood's connection to the world is like Fushi's (i.e. all he creates is part of his body) Omnipresence is probably fine. At least at the peak of his power.

 

[YungManzi]

fate

I can see causality and time manipulation as well as fate; since he designed the world so that it could naturally "change" and “revolve” on its own . Both are his inventions.

"Change" relating to causality and possibly fate, and "Revolve" referring to time.

 

[DontTalkDT]

I can see causality and time manipulation as well as fate; since he designed the world so that it could naturally "change" and “revolve” on its own . Both are his inventions.

"Change" relating to causality and possibly fate, and "Revolve" referring to time.

Time as such existed before. He says "an eternity of time passed" regarding his experiences before he creates the world.

And creating something that changes on its own and getting causality or fate from that is a stretch. Since time already exists this is only a question of creating the underlying physics for things to happen on their own.
Fate is particularly far-fetched, as I'm fairly sure none such concept was ever brought up to exist in the verse. In general things don't necessarily go the way Black Hood wants, so I don't think he decided the fate of the world or anything.

 

[YungManzi]

Time as such existed before. He says "an eternity of time passed" regarding his experiences before he creates the world.

Perhaps time existed in his dimension, but he still created time for the world that he created. so still time manipulation.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Perhaps time existed in his dimension, but he still created time for the world that he created. so still time manipulation.

It's nowhere stated that he created time for that dimension separately. You're confusing setting things up so they can change without him actively doing something with creating time.

 

[Pedonar]

First, what you didn't mention: Obviously an upgrade to 3-A stats for creating the universe.

cause I didn’t know where to scale him cause he said there were many others like him...

Since he can move everything... telekinesis, I guess?

yh I forgot about it

Power bestowal, subjective reality, memory manipulation, reality warping and weather manipulation are ok.

Cosmic Awareness would be fine. Not omniscience, though.

Law is... probably fine.

I think there is no indication of quantum, mathematics, abstract existence (they likely exist as souls i.e. Fye), fate or concept manipulation.

I said it possibly caused he to shape geometry shapes and atoms and give them meaning so it's like concepts

 

[Pedonar]

for now

Power Bestowal
Subjective Reality
Reality Warping
Weather Manipulation
Law Manipulation
large size
Memory Manipulation
Cosmic Awareness
Information Manipulation Type 1
Omnipresent
Do u all agree?

 

[DontTalkDT]

I said it possibly caused he to shape geometry shapes and atoms and give them meaning so it's like concepts

I think when it says they gave the shapes meaning, that is meant as that they interpret them. Somewhat like what you see on a PC screen is technically just colored light, but you assign those patterns of colored light a meaning, by interpreting them as text or images.

for now

Power Bestowal
Subjective Reality
Reality Warping
Weather Manipulation
Law Manipulation
large size
Memory Manipulation
Cosmic Awareness
Information Manipulation Type 1
Omnipresent
Do u all agree?

Why Information Type 1 again?

I'm fine with the rest in any case.

 

[Pedonar]

I think when it says they gave the shapes meaning, that is meant as that they interpret them. Somewhat like what you see on a PC screen is technically just colored light, but you assign those patterns of colored light a meaning, by interpreting them as text or images.


Why Information Type 1 again?

I'm fine with the rest in any case.

he created earthenware people (like Iddy). people with a special ability that they can't talk but share or store information in pots

and he should get Resurrection/Reincarnation I will share a scan if u need it

 

[Pedonar]

Time as such existed before. He says "an eternity of time passed" regarding his experiences before he creates the world.

And creating something that changes on its own and getting causality or fate from that is a stretch. Since time already exists this is only a question of creating the underlying physics for things to happen on their own.
Fate is particularly far-fetched, as I'm fairly sure none such concept was ever brought up to exist in the verse. In general things don't necessarily go the way Black Hood wants, so I don't think he decided the fate of the world or anything.

in the second link, the last page

he said " I placed limits upon them. they had words and life span"

giving someone a life span doesn't qualify for fate manipulation?

 

[YungManzi]

Why Information Type 1 again?

I'm fine with the rest in any case.

He experimented with storing information in pots.

 

[Pedonar]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Chumiminjo/The_Beholder

So what do u think is there anything have to be fixed or to be added?

 

[Pedonar]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Chumiminjo/The_Beholder

So what do u think is there anything have to be fixed or to be added?

I'm not sure of large and size manipulation, and what to put in Lifting Strength do I keep it to unknown

 

[Pedonar]

What do u call this ability

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

What do u call this ability

What the context bruh

 

[Pedonar]

What the context bruh

When he walk the water stays away from him : )

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

When he walk the water stays away from him : )

Don't know bruh

 

[DontTalkDT]

he created earthenware people (like Iddy). people with a special ability that they can't talk but share or store information in pots

He experimented with storing information in pots.

I'm fairly sure that's by physically reshaping the pots. Kinda like writing on it, just... more complicated and efficient. Like, they are basically using pots like hard drives. Don't think that's info type 1.

Like, we know how Neko is always kinda working on her pot, reshaping the clay it's made from. I don't think they just stuff metaphysical information into it.

and he should get Resurrection/Reincarnation I will share a scan if u need it

That's fine.

What do u call this ability

I think that's probably an application of him being able to control the movement of stuff. So telekinesis, I guess.

 

[Pedonar]

I'm fairly sure that's by physically reshaping the pots. Kinda like writing on it, just... more complicated and efficient. Like, they are basically using pots like hard drives. Don't think that's info type 1.

Like, we know how Neko is always kinda working on her pot, reshaping the clay it's made from. I don't think they just stuff metaphysical information into it.

they store the info by thinking while they are touching the mud then they stick it on the pots

if u don't agree then what about " limited information manipulation" and maybe limited psychometry