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Tier 1 & 0 Review Thread

VeneficaAuthor said:
I don’t believe I will be accepting this. I don’t understand why this UT/FNF fanfiction scales so much higher than the peaks of either verse.
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Yeesh this is a bit too harsh for a guy who likes a funkin' game. Not my blog, but this isn't quite good of a response imo and I was asked to respond on behalf.
I also don’t believe it is 1-A anyhow. The reasoning is shaky and relies upon the player being interpreted as you in real life. Most other stories and verses which have a ‘player’ and also ‘speak’ to said player do not treat them as outerversal, including undertale (and deltarune) itself. Everything I read just boils down to game mechanics.
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This statement says that the player from the real world is both the player in FND and Gaster calmly directs us as "YOU", us as in the player/us. This isn't just "Gaster Talks to Le Player", Gaster is physically handing us copies of the songs as if it weren't anything minor. Now while I don't see this as 1-A, I do see this as a cool Low 1-C considering both The Player and Gaster are massively above the events of Uncreate (which in the same blog is 2-A)
Also, I fail to see this as Game Mechanics if its tied to FND's lore or just in general.
 
TheBoxofIncidents said:
This statement says that the player from the real world is both the player in FND and Gaster calmly directs us as "YOU", us as in the player/us. This isn't just "Gaster Talks to Le Player", Gaster is physically handing us copies of the songs as if it weren't anything minor. Now while I don't see this as 1-A, I do see this as a cool Low 1-C considering both The Player and Gaster are massively above the events of Uncreate (which in the same blog is 2-A)
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Imma be fr here chief, being the equivalent of a IRL thing is not 1-A feat regardless.
It should be noted that despite whatever the author may intend, a characters cannot interact with the true Real World that we all live in. The Real World can be simulated by fiction, but it will never be the true reality. Thus, characters that exist in the 'real world' such as The Player (Imscared) would be fictional representations of real people, and not actual real people who exist.

Finally, one should remember that author avatars are not necessarily omnipotent, and that defeating an author should not necessarily grant a higher tier. Characters like Popeye are capable of attacking their authors but these are generally treated as gag feats which should not be taken seriously. Author avatars are also not necessarily be able to affect other people on their level with abilities unless demonstrated or indicated by the mechanisms, as most author and player characters usually have their powers affect the lower world instead of the one they exist on.
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This is why people like the Player of games from DDLC, UTDR or OFF are never treated as being literally us but just in-universe entities that take our role in the story, otherwise we go way too meta and end up make stuff untierable.
 
TheBoxofIncidents said:
This statement says that the player from the real world is both the player in FND and Gaster calmly directs us as "YOU", us as in the player/us. This isn't just "Gaster Talks to Le Player", Gaster is physically handing us copies of the songs as if it weren't anything minor. Now while I don't see this as 1-A, I do see this as a cool Low 1-C considering both The Player and Gaster are massively above the events of Uncreate (which in the same blog is 2-A)
Also, I fail to see this as Game Mechanics if its tied to FND's lore or just in general.
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Low 1-C is probably possible. 1-A and above are just treated more seriously and require much more to be accepted. But I still don’t think giving the player items alone is evidence for the type of superiority Low 1-C requires.

So I need to know, what does ‘above’ the events of Uncreate mean in this context?
 
TheBoxofIncidents said:
From what I can understand with the evidence above, it's just above the 2-A structure (which was accepted at being infinite if I remember) and some other stuff
Uncreate is error vs ink and the doodlesphere unless DSF wants to correct me here.
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I see

At least as far as scaling goes Low 1-C is fine for me. But I still want more staff opinions on the quality of the blog itself disregarding tier.
 
StrymULTRA said:
UTDR
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A mild correction here, that player is still very much in consideration for 1-A, OFF's player is just too vague, DDLC has the real world exist in parallel with the computer one, even if there is a degree of hiearchy there, but no, the Undertale/Deltrarune player can (and was, back when the first Low 1-C upgrade went through) completely able to pass for 1-A, the main issue with doing so now is the whole Chara thing at the end of Geno (but that has some arguments considering deltarune stuff).

So at that point it's more a matter on crossscaling than anything else + off it's own material being too vague for it to qualify anyways (especially for the gaster scaling lol)
 
Deonment said:
but no, the Undertale/Deltrarune player can (and was, back when the first Low 1-C upgrade went through) completely able to pass for 1-A, the main issue with doing so now is the whole Chara thing at the end of Geno (but that has some arguments considering deltarune stuff).
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Ultima was literally proven wrong in the downgrade thread, why are you using debunked ratings as a precedent!?

Plus, remember when Chara can directly affect the actual files of the folder? That's an anti-feat against 1-A.
 
Request for Tier 0 Review
Character:
Ash Ketchum
(Bond Transcendence)

Sandbox: Cosmology Summary: A 4-layered hierarchy. Layer 3 (Hall of Origin) is Outerversal (1-A) as it transcends all concepts of space/time. Layer 4 (Pure Bond Dimension) is Tier 0 as it possesses absolute qualitative superiority over the Outerversal concepts of Layer 3 and exists as a Primary Constant outside the "Narrative Script."
Justification: Character achieved Narrative Autonomy and Absolute Refusal, surviving Total Conceptual Erasure by a 1-A entity.
 
Also let me state the affected pages since I feel like it's important:
Edit: The Television (since it's been made since this post and exists on the players plane) and Monsters by simply having Ink and Error, and Thero's Reality manip by changing the fundamentals of the game
 
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