Thomas The Tank Engine vs. Lightning McQueen [0-2-2]

[IDK3465]

Thomas ain't catching McQueen and his durability isn't comparable to his 9-A AP. The gap between McQueen's weapons and the durability of Thomas is about 3.5x so he's not gonna completely no sell them but they'll still do less damage to him.

…Thomas’s dura does scale though?

Durability: Small Building level (Has survived crashes from fellow steam locomotives with similar tech specs. Comparable to Gordon and Percy, who can survive going through multiple walls at once)

If we assume the other trains are comparable to Thomas, then shouldn’t the dura scale to the full value?
This whole time I thought you guys used baseline due to being unsure of Thomas’s exact value.

 

[koopa3144]

also gonna be dragging from 8 to 10 traincarts (his 9-A AP requires him to) with him which makes him even heavier and the mine even more likely to blow up.

I might be wrong here but It's not required for him to him to be carrying cargo to reach 9-A. His AP notes that he can provide more energy with cargo while going at 9-A speeds not that he needs them to be 9-A. There also not listed as equipment so idk if they can be given to him here.

 

[AThe1412]

…Thomas’s dura does scale though?

If we assume the other trains are comparable to Thomas, then shouldn’t the dura scale to the full value?
This whole time I thought you guys used baseline due to being unsure of Thomas’s exact value.

I might be wrong here but It's not required for him to him to be carrying cargo to reach 9-A. His AP notes that he can provide more energy with cargo while going at 9-A speeds not that he needs them to be 9-A. There also not listed as equipment so idk if they can be given to him here.

Look at the calculations for his AP. They're for if he does have cargo. For his durability to scale to his AP, he'll have to be crashing at top speed while pulling 8-10 cargos which we've never seen.

 

[IDK3465]

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[IDK3465]

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[Fallen_Angelicx]

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[IDK3465]

By the way guys, Lightning is officially not baseline anymore, so that’s cool.

 

[Joaco0902]

I'm necro-ing hard here oof

So if I'm understanding correctly, Lightning and Thomas are in an infinitely long tunnel, and McQueen can only use his weapons once before needing an item box to use them again (which I'll assume he can't find)

McQueen is faster, allowing him to always keep a distance from Thomas, and even with the limitation of only being able to use each weapon once, he still has plenty in his arsenal. He's got:

• Green Missiles (Shoot straight)
• Red Missiles (These are guided)
• Blue Missiles (These ones work like the blue shell from Mario Kart... so I guess he ends up exploding himself? Maybe he shouldn't use them lol)
• The grenade launcher (can't remember the name exactly, shoots in an arc, explodes, it's a grenade launcher idfk)
• Mini guns
• Mines
• Probably more I'm forgetting about. Maybe the oil slick?

Anyways, point is, he's got all these weapons. Even with the AP gap, is Thomas really gonna be able to tank all this? 3.5x isn't that terrible a gap. I think that like, Human Level and Athlete Level are 3.5x apart.

BUT EVEN THEN, McQueen has an ace up his sleeve. I mean, tire. You see, just by making tricks like driving backwards or on two wheels (5:40), he accumulates boost. And when he has full boost, he goes into the "In the zone" status which makes him invulnerable and strong enough to send cars flying by just touching them (1:00). You can see that in that last video, as soon as he touches mater, he gets sent flying away, and the (unrelated) explosion, which would've normally knocked McQueen away, only makes him briefly lose balance for a second. So basically, if lightning runs out of weapons and Thomas is still standing, he can try accumulating boost and charging at Thomas while in the zone as a last resort.

So yeah. Voting McQueen mid/low diff

 

[IDK3465]

I'm necro-ing hard here oof

So if I'm understanding correctly, Lightning and Thomas are in an infinitely long tunnel, and McQueen can only use his weapons once before needing an item box to use them again (which I'll assume he can't find)

McQueen is faster, allowing him to always keep a distance from Thomas, and even with the limitation of only being able to use each weapon once, he still has plenty in his arsenal. He's got:

• Green Missiles (Shoot straight)
• Red Missiles (These are guided)
• Blue Missiles (These ones work like the blue shell from Mario Kart... so I guess he ends up exploding himself? Maybe he shouldn't use them lol)
• The grenade launcher (can't remember the name exactly, shoots in an arc, explodes, it's a grenade launcher idfk)
• Mini guns
• Mines
• Probably more I'm forgetting about. Maybe the oil slick?

Anyways, point is, he's got all these weapons. Even with the AP gap, is Thomas really gonna be able to tank all this? 3.5x isn't that terrible a gap. I think that like, Human Level and Athlete Level are 3.5x apart.

BUT EVEN THEN, McQueen has an ace up his sleeve. I mean, tire. You see, just by making tricks like driving backwards or on two wheels (5:40), he accumulates boost. And when he has full boost, he goes into the "In the zone" status which makes him invulnerable and strong enough to send cars flying by just touching them (1:00). You can see that in that last video, as soon as he touches mater, he gets sent flying away, and the (unrelated) explosion, which would've normally knocked McQueen away, only makes him briefly lose balance for a second. So basically, if lightning runs out of weapons and Thomas is still standing, he can try accumulating boost and charging at Thomas while in the zone as a last resort.

So yeah. Voting McQueen mid/low diff

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