The Xeelee vs the time lords (1 vote left)

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Sir Rassilon, A group of aliens are attacking us, what should we do?

Rassilon: Destroy them

Xeelee

Time Lords

Incon: 6 votes

rules

both low 1-C. (xeelee at their strongest and time lords with low 1-C weaponry only, cannot have any super weapons higher than that)

no knowledge of either side

in-character

this battle obviously takes place on gallifrey

(what are the rules involving speed equalization for civilizations?)

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Hmm, the Transduction Barriers is deactivated i suppose?

Timelords can use the eye of harmony as a source of power? (source of power =/= not as a weapon because it has a 11D attack function)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Hmm, the Transduction Barriers is deactivated i suppose?

Timelords can use the eye of harmony as a source of power? (source of power =/= not as a weapon because it has a 11D attack function)

yeah

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

i hope this is not a stomp because this is the first i made a civilization vs civilization battle. and i want a match added.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

ok, so the rationality attacks are out.

the Xeelee start with?

Gallifrey mostly uses Chronological attacks but due to Acausality 5 it won't work.

Maybe Biodata weapons work

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

ok, so the rationality attacks are out.

the Xeelee start with?

Gallifrey mostly uses Chronological attacks but due to Acausality 5 it won't work.

Maybe Biodata weapons work

i don't know what they start with.

but the time lords can use their conceptual weapons.

and of course

DETONATE THE ULTIMATE SANCTION

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

well, Rassilon did not do it in the war against the Daleks or in the war of heaven (although it did not exist at the time iirc).

although it should have weapons capable of doing something similar to the Black tardis that can affect structures made of Concept type 1 as well as weapons that attack ideas

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

well, Rassilon did not do it in the war against the Daleks or in the war of heaven (although it did not exist at the time iirc).

although it should have weapons capable of doing something similar to the Black tardis that can affect structures made of Concept type 1 as well as weapons that attack ideas

i think the time lords win but it's not a stomp.

though i hope xeelee people come here.

i can change the op to avoid a stomp if necessary.

once more people come here that is.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

it's just knowledgeable members on xeelee are rare here.

 

[Lapsad]

it's just knowledgeable members on xeelee are rare here.

He was existed but now he's gone.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

He was existed but now he's gone.

dang it. how am i going to get someone to help me with this one.

considering using the time lords is really hard.

 

[Delta333]

He got banned

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

He got banned

we still have jockey-1337 but i don't know where he is. last time was 2 days ago. something like that.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

anyone else who isn't banned?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Bump

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

bump

 

[Jockey-1337]

The Time Lords definitely have better superweapons (The Ultimate Sanction, The Moment), but the Xeelee as a civilization is so "wide", decentralized, and they inhabit every universe across an uncountably infinite multiverse, so I think even these superweapons will not be able to get rid of the Xeelee.
In my opinion, the only way the Xeelee can win is via the Anti-Xeelee, who should be able to one-shot Gallifrey, which would be a game over for the Time Lords, because the Anti-Xeelee has enough biggatons but only if we powerscale it from the Transcendence's "fusionism".

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

The Time Lords definitely have better superweapons (The Ultimate Sanction, The Moment), but the Xeelee as a civilization is so "wide", decentralized, and they inhabit every universe across an uncountably infinite multiverse, so I think even these superweapons will not be able to get rid of the Xeelee.
In my opinion, the only way the Xeelee can win is via the Anti-Xeelee, who should be able to one-shot Gallifrey, which would be a game over for the Time Lords, because the Anti-Xeelee has enough biggatons but only if we powerscale it from the Transcendence's "fusionism".

so time lords win?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

we can always have incap.

if civilization debates allow that?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

bump

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

or we can give the time lords a bit of prep to deal with that

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

well, Rassilon did not do it in the war against the Daleks or in the war of heaven (although it did not exist at the time iirc).

although it should have weapons capable of doing something similar to the Black tardis that can affect structures made of Concept type 1 as well as weapons that attack ideas

oliver

The Time Lords definitely have better superweapons (The Ultimate Sanction, The Moment), but the Xeelee as a civilization is so "wide", decentralized, and they inhabit every universe across an uncountably infinite multiverse, so I think even these superweapons will not be able to get rid of the Xeelee.
In my opinion, the only way the Xeelee can win is via the Anti-Xeelee, who should be able to one-shot Gallifrey, which would be a game over for the Time Lords, because the Anti-Xeelee has enough biggatons but only if we powerscale it from the Transcendence's "fusionism".

what is your response?

 

[Jockey-1337]

so time lords win?

No, it would be a draw where the Time Lords don't have enough AOE to destroy the Xeelee because of their scale, but the Xeelee don't have enough biggatonrs to pass thru the Transduction Barrier.
But the Xeelee can win only if we use the high-end interpretation of the Anti-Xeelee.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

No, it would be a draw where the Time Lords don't have enough AOE to destroy the Xeelee because of their scale, but the Xeelee don't have enough biggatonrs to pass thru the Transduction Barrier.
But the Xeelee can win only if we use the high-end interpretation of the Anti-Xeelee.

actually the transduction barrier is turned off in this battle.

i actually said that to oliver.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

also incap is an option (is that allowed in civilization battles)

 

[Jockey-1337]

actually the transduction barrier is turned off in this battle.

Then the Xeelee would easily win.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Then the Xeelee would easily win.

then will just turn it on.

what about incap if the transduction barrier is there.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

They need a High 1-C power to bypass the transduction barrier, so an incap would not be possible


Unless they use weaponry with reach 11-D, this will be difficult for the timelords to reach.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

so how do you make this fight a little fair?

is there a way for this matchup to work?

 

[Jockey-1337]

They need a High 1-C power to bypass the transduction barrier, so an incap would not be possible

Chronovores who are Low 1-C can supposedly pass thru the Transduction Barrier:

[Once the Chronovores have left the Earth a
desiccated husk, where next? Wherever she creates these
alternate realities, the Divine Host will follow.’ He threw a
hand in the air. ‘Skaro, Telos, Gallifrey, even. This has to
stop.’
‘It cannot be stopped. No one in this reality can stand
before the Divine Host and survive.’]
- Quantum Archangel

The number of Chronovores:
[As the first wave of the Divine Host descended with the beat of a million wings, he fired the artron cannon.]
- Quantum Archangel

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

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[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

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[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

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[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

bump

come on if the transduction barriers are on and the time lords have only their low 1-C weapons as well as the xeelee being at their highest.

can't this just be an incap

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

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[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

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[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

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[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

ok, so the rationality attacks are out.

the Xeelee start with?

Gallifrey mostly uses Chronological attacks but due to Acausality 5 it won't work.

Maybe Biodata weapons work

oliver. what are your thoughts if the transduction barriers are on and based on what the xeelee guy said. newest info

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

oliver. what are your thoughts if the transduction barriers are on and based on what the xeelee guy said. newest info

The Enemy no longer had a homeworld. Indeed, they had never had a homeworld. All the evidence suggested they had employed sophisticated dimensional engineering techniques to loop their worldline, rendering it inaccessible to Time Lord attack.

So what did this mean? Gallifrey itself was protected by even more complex temporal defenses, its worldline twisted and warped through all eleven dimensions to hide it from Enermy attack. It was the home of the Time Lords, the legendary masters of time. Surely the Enemy lacked the level of knowledge to manipulate its own worldline?

-Quantum Archangel

in the best of the cases the Chronovores have a range 11D or it was an inconsistency

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

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