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in the best of the cases the Chronovores have a range 11D or it was an inconsistency
again I do not know the verse but it seems that the higher dimensions do not qualify for 11D
Not a stomp, definitely. It would be a long and hard war for both sides.
As I said before:
"No, it would be a draw where the Time Lords don't have enough AOE to destroy the Xeelee because of their scale, but the Xeelee don't have enough biggatonrs to pass thru the Transduction Barrier.
But the Xeelee can win only if we use the high-end interpretation of the Anti-Xeelee."
That is the process in how existence was organized, it does not necessarily determine how cosmology works, if we go to that within DC, the Overvoid's attempts to study existence were contaminated as well as its creations by the multiverse.It rather shows that dimensional tiering doesn't work in some fictional universes. But it is just my opinion.
It seems to me dimensional tiering doesn't "properly" work in DW as well, because The Time Vortex is just a 5th dimension:
[ʻIʼm not sure about the technicalities. In laymanʼs terms the TARDIS removes itself from Minkowski space, then integrates itself into a fifth dimension. It travels through something called the Vortex, a transdimensional spiral built by the Doctorʼs people which encompasses all points in space and time. Then, the TARDIS just reorientates itself at the other end, and reestablishes a plasmic real-world interface.ʼ - Just War]
and these 5 dimensions "were triumphant":
[‘When the universe was created, dimensions started to solidify out of the primal chaos. But five got there first – the three spatial dimensions and two of time.’ The Doctor couldn’t bite his tongue any longer. They might be a trinity of professors, but the Doctor had learnt this in elementary class at the Academy! Holding his hands up in protest, he remembered one of his primers: Rassilon’s Guide to the Multiverse, volume 3. The one without the pictures. ‘At the risk of sounding like a high-and-mighty Time Lord, I am a high-and-mighty Time Lord. And to quote one of my elementary texts in the matter: “And in the aftermath of Event Zero, eleven dimensions did fight for existence. Five were triumphant – together they did become the three dimensions of space, and the two dimensions of time through which we travel. But the remaining six dimensions did still exist: although beaten, although denied their dominance, they curled and curdled amongst themselves to become a six-fold universe, separate yet conjoined. - quantum archangel]
This is due to the Ancient Covenants that prohibits them from entering the lower realm, that is why specific rituals and methods are used to enter, not due to inconsistency of cosmology.Also, higher dimensional beings (Chronovores) cannot so easily enter lower dimensions:
[‘The time vortex is the second temporal dimension – it’s the region through which TARDISes travel, the region that TOMTIT creates a gap through to enable matter transmission. When the dimensions froze out of the void it became inexorably linked to Calabi-Yau Space. The Chronovores may live in the time vortex... but they eat and feed in what you call Calabi-Yau Space. You’re trespassing on their feeding grounds!’ - quantum archangel
By the Ancient Covenants forged in Event One, the Big Bang, the four dimensions of space-time were forbidden to the Chronovores; they were unable to leave their twin domains of Calabi-Yau Space and the time vortex unless summoned- quantum archangel]
[By the Ancient Covenants forged in Event One, the Big Bang, the four dimensions of space-time were forbidden to the Chronovores; they were unable to leave their twin domains of Calabi-Yau Space and the time vortex unless summoned- quantum archangel]
The destruction of gallifrey did not matter to the time lords, they in the process of the Ultimate sanction would ascend out of physical plane to become beings of pure consciousness, that was Rassilon's plan after speaking to the council during the time blockThe most interesting thing is that their 11-D transduction barrier cannot protect them from destruction of the 5th dimension (The Time Vortex):
[MASTER: But this is fantastic, isn't it? The Time Lords restored.
DOCTOR: You weren't there in the final days of the War. You never saw what was born. But if the Timelock's broken, then everything's coming through. Not just the Daleks, but the Skaro Degradations, the Horde of Travesties, the Nightmare Child, the Could-have-been King with his army of Meanwhiles and Never-weres. The War turned into hell. And that's what you've opened, right above the Earth. Hell is descending.
MASTER: My kind of world.
DOCTOR: Just listen! Because even the Time Lords can't survive that.
RASSILON: We will initiate the Final Sanction. The end of time will come at my hand. The rupture will continue until it rips the Time Vortex apart.
MASTER: That's suicide.
RASSILON: We will ascend to become creatures of consciousness alone. Free of these bodies, free of time, and cause and effect, while creation itself ceases to be.
DOCTOR: You see now? That's what they were planning in the final days of the War. I had to stop them.]
So I think the Xeelee have a chance to beat the Time Lords, with or without the Transduction Barrier.
Yes, also incon because neither can kill the other
I mean, yeah for nowalso is your is that your vote.
you voting incon?Reading through the responses I agree with jockey here
Yep4 votes.
you voting incon?