The Ultra Series Discussion Thread: Unleash! The Power of Imagination!

[DestrudoD4Ray]

Ultraman Noa (Canon)/Agent 1306

Ultraman Noa (ウルトラマンノア Urutoraman Noa) is an Ultraman from the World of N who pursued his evil counterpart, Dark Zagi, throughout various universes and countless alien worlds, including those of the World of the Land of Light. Noa is the true form of Ultraman The Next/Ultraman Nexus. Tier: At...

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Could this apply to noa?

 

[Mr.Cutlery]

I don't think the Noa profile can apply. It's based on one statement that hasn't seen reference in modern portrayal of the character. So not yet.

@WanderingGecko
Yeah, 's why I never brought up 2-C.

As for the Inner Light, it's more so because of how disconnected Blazar is so far, and he doesn't exhibit the same kinds of abilities as normal Ultras do. Who knows, maybe they'll say he's as Ultra as they get.


I've also proposed putting a 5th thread, but didn't because we figured this was a good enough focal point. I'm not opposed to the idea though.

 

[WanderingGecko]

@WanderingGecko
Yeah, 's why I never brought up 2-C.

Bullton’s feat should be 2-A range though, since it mentioned all worlds and there are infinite worlds.

As for the Inner Light, it's more so because of how disconnected Blazar is so far, and he doesn't exhibit the same kinds of abilities as normal Ultras do. Who knows, maybe they'll say he's as Ultra as they get.

I mean he kinda does, it’s just not shown to a full extent. Like with other Ultras they don’t show the full extent of the Ultra Physiology too.

I've also proposed putting a 5th thread, but didn't because we figured this was a good enough focal point. I'm not opposed to the idea though.

I mean it’s been 2-4 years since the last discussion thread? We can make it.

 

[DestrudoD4Ray]

Bullton’s feat should be 2-A range though, since it mentioned all worlds and there are infinite worlds.

Does the "All worlds in Ultra Series" means the whole multiverse or just the Ultraman Series existing back then?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I mean it’s been 2-4 years since the last discussion thread? We can make it.

I think it's redundant, because we also have some ongoing discussion threads that are 2 years old or more
So a new discussion thread for this is unnecessary

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Also, i feel like the Ultra's resistance to AZ should be limited, as they were very affected by it and were started to getting frozen by -273 c (Which is technically higher than AZ since it's -273.15c), with cold temperatures being a weakness of them. Plus i could be wrong but iirc Snowgon's ice breath is stated to be Absolute Zero and that froze Jack completely

 

[WanderingGecko]

I think it's redundant, because we also have some ongoing discussion threads that are 2 years old or more
So a new discussion thread for this is unnecessary

They don't do "Ultra Series Discussion Thread 1-4" Though.

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Also speaking of Showa Era

https://vsbattles.com/threads/is-tanking-a-supernova-really-tanking-a-supernova.160893/

This thread really makes me question the Bemstar scaling. Currently we are scaling him to the Crab Nebula supernova. However, we have no idea if he was that close to it or even if he was in the epicenter, we just know that "Ever since it exploded, he began absorbing gas", which doesn't tell much. I feel like this would affect the scaling, and obviously Bemstar isn't the size of a star to tank the full yield

 

[DestrudoD4Ray]

Also speaking of Showa Era

https://vsbattles.com/threads/is-tanking-a-supernova-really-tanking-a-supernova.160893/

This thread really makes me question the Bemstar scaling. Currently we are scaling him to the Crab Nebula supernova. However, we have no idea if he was that close to it or even if he was in the epicenter, we just know that "Ever since it exploded, he began absorbing gas", which doesn't tell much. I feel like this would affect the scaling, and obviously Bemstar isn't the size of a star to tank the full yield

I feel like it should be the same case as Spacegodzilla, who absorbed a supernova (as well as tanking it)

But even if the feat is invalid, it wouldn't really change the scaling since we have that constellation stuff (0.945 FOE), not really far from 1 FOE...

 

[TyranoDoom30]

I feel like it should be the same case as Spacegodzilla, who absorbed a supernova

Bemstar is never stated to have absorbed it, nor it's implied. Also we scale SpaceG from absorbing the energy, not tanking it.

But even if the feat is invalid, it wouldn't really change the scaling since we have that constellation stuff (0.945 FOE), not really far from 1 FOE...

Yeah it wouldn't, they would still get in the FOE range

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Also i've found more things for the Ultra Physiology.

Ultras should have Dimensional Travel. Gaia can travel to a different dimension, Zoffy goes to Yapool's dimension, Ace and the Ultra Brothers goes to Golgotha which is in a connected universe, 80 can teleport to a different dimension, Zero's can fly to a different universe with enough energy and etc.

They also should get Power Bestowal and Fusionism, it's very common in the series for the Ultras to give their energy and powers to their allies and be capable of fusing with each other to form a new Ultraman. Also, they literally fuse with their host

 

[DestrudoD4Ray]

Also i've found more things for the Ultra Physiology.

Ultras should have Dimensional Travel. Gaia can travel to a different dimension, Zoffy goes to Yapool's dimension, Ace and the Ultra Brothers goes to Golgotha which is in a connected universe, 80 can teleport to a different dimension, Zero's can fly to a different universe with enough energy and etc.

They also should get Power Bestowal and Fusionism, it's very common in the series for the Ultras to give their energy and powers to their allies and be capable of fusing with each other to form a new Ultraman. Also, they literally fuse with their host

But is dimensional travel natural for every single ultra? Also i didn't know that there isn't fusionism and power bestowal on the ultra physiology page

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

They don't do "Ultra Series Discussion Thread 1-4" Though.

Record of Ragnarok discussion thread did use "1" on and it's still ongoing
JJK discussion thread did also use "1" on it and it's still ongoing

What's your point?

 

[Peter1129]

Honestly, this was only numbered 4 because originally on the fandom forums each thread could only have up to 500 posts. But after we moved over to our own forum the post limit was no longer a thing hence we just stuck with this one thread ever since without changing it.

And tbh I don’t think making a new thread would be that good of an idea since there are lots of info that are on this thread and jumping back and forth between threads to search for statements would be kind of annoying. Though we could just rename this thread to something else and remove the 4 from the thread title.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Basically what you said
And since this is my thread, maybe i'll update the OP later when i'm not busy, working together for Arknights on the Wiki right now

 

[WanderingGecko]

And honestly I don’t think making a new thread would be that good of an idea since there are lots of info that are on this thread and jumping back and forth between threads to search for statements would be kind of annoying. Though we could just rename this thread to something else and remove the 4 from the thread title.

This is probably the better solution, I suggest changing the title to like “Ultra Series Mega-Discussion Thread: Add a line here or something” as we generally discuss every single media related to the Ultra Series and other canons of it.

 

[Peter1129]

Yeah sure. Though I believe only the thread maker can update the thread op and title. So you’re probably gonna have to wait for Mr.Cutlery to come on and talk to him about what to change the title to.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

This is probably the better solution, I suggest changing the title to like “Ultra Series Mega-Discussion Thread: Add a line here or something” as we generally discuss every single media related to the Ultra Series and other canons of it.

As i said above, when i'm not busy ATM or lazy I'll edit the OP

But still i didn't know you are so fixated over this lel

EDIT: NVM i thought i'm the one who made this thread in first place lmao

 

[WanderingGecko]

As i said above, when i'm not busy ATM or lazy I'll edit the OP

But still i didn't know you are so fixated over this lel

EDIT: NVM i thought i'm the one who made this thread in first place lmao

I’m not though. I’m doing this just cause I thought it was a cool tradition.

 

[Peter1129]

As i said above, when i'm not busy ATM or lazy I'll edit the OP

But still i didn't know you are so fixated over this lel

EDIT: NVM i thought i'm the one who made this thread in first place lmao

LMAO! I was just about to say if you were actually secretly Mr.Cutlery this whole time.

 

[Kamenriderblaze]

BTW guy should we made a new thread, this thread is getting very and i mean very long and we need an easier way to get info on this thread

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

LMAO! I was just about to say if you were actually secretly Mr.Cutlery this whole time.

I'm having a brainrot moment, the Arknights agenda hit me hard lmao

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

BTW guy should we made a new thread, this thread is getting very and i mean very long and we need an easier way to get info on this thread

You are one billions late, slowpoke

And beside, myself and Peter already explained why making a new thread is redundant as heck

 

[Peter1129]

BTW guy should we made a new thread, this thread is getting very and i mean very long and we need an easier way to get info on this thread

Bruh if you think this thread is long take a look at this

Also you could just use the search function and search this thread for statements by typing in words related to what you want to search for.

 

[Mr.Cutlery]

We wait for Arc's tagline before changing the thread title, unless I missed it.

Also one way to differentiate between Vel and I is that she's Indonesian, I'm Malaysian. We're practically oil and water.

 

[WanderingGecko]

We wait for Arc's tagline before changing the thread title, unless I missed it.

“You and I are one and the same… Unleash your imagination!” We already have an offical tagline from here.

 

[Mr.Cutlery]

Aight then, I'll see to editing it when I get off from work. Others really can't, right?

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Made a thread.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/monstrous-fire-the-dragon-king-ultraman-ace-vs-bowser.167274/

 

[Mr.Cutlery]

Removed numerical designation and updated thread name.

 

[Peter1129]

Oh right also that reminds me I forgot to bring this up before but apparently outside of Taiga & Z’s stage show there’s another stage show that was confirmed canon as part of the UGF storyline after Regulos: The First Mission since it was written into something that seems to be an UGF storyline data book or magazine. It’s the one labeled UGFSN at the very bottom.
Edit: Just did some research and this is the official UGF timeline from the Blu-Ray.

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It’s called Ultra Galaxy Fight Special Night but it’s locked behind Tsuburaya Imagination just like the Ultimate Force Zero Side Story Novel so almost nobody knew about this which is why there’s no translation of it on BiliBili even now.

But I did manage to find a raw of it on BiliBili though for those that are interested

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https://imagination.m-78.jp/video/dm9kL2FlMTJiNDlfbTAwMDAwMDJjeA自购7月4日流媒体上线的2022年12月27日举办的奥特银河格斗特别之夜in奥特英雄EXPO2023新年庆典 的“完全版”据官方称雷古洛思舞台剧的镜头有所增加 请大家自行鉴定嘉宾：坂本浩一（导演） 根岸拓哉（礼堂光演员） 驹田航（利布特配音） 仲村宗悟（雷古洛思配音）, 视频播放量 6706、弹幕量 13、点赞数 140、投硬币枚数 14、收藏人数 134、转发人数 16, 视频作者 航海水上ライオン連合, 作者简介...

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Though from what I’ve heard it does cause some scaling problems like Base Ginga supposed being stronger than Regulos. Haven’t watched it so I’m not sure if that’s true or not though. So there could be some context missing.

Edit: Also not sure if this is official or fan made (Or fan made using info from the Blu-ray) but if it is official or is timeline info regarding UGF from the Blu-ray than this means Ultraman Story (Or rather the fight with Grand King) is in fact confirmed canon so we won’t need to worry about that fights canonicity anymore if we had any worries regarding it in the first place.

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Then again that movie has wayyy too many contradictions to the main canon

 

[Peter1129]

I mean yeah but at least now we know the Grand King fight is 100% canon if we didn’t already do that. I’m probably gonna go take a look at Special Night once I get back home and see what new scaling it would bring.

 

[WanderingGecko]

We're just gonna have to assume that Regulos is just extremely gifted and his innate strength comparable to Zero, cause there's no logical reason why he could compete with the Ultras of today.

 

[WanderingGecko]

There's something I've been thinking about, is it alright if I add the verse to TSW?

 

[DestrudoD4Ray]

Tsw?

 

[WanderingGecko]

Tsw?

TopStrongestWiki, our neighbor essentially.

 

[WanderingGecko]

Umm I kinda made a blog there and turned the stuff into imgur, if anyone wants to put the imgurs here too then I’d love to help.

Ultra Series Cosmology and Multipliers

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[Mr.Cutlery]

Blog looks good so far, I'll give it a proper check later.

Also, watching Final Odyssey right now, and...

Should we give Tiga Dark all the powers of darkness shown explicitly from at least the likes of Gatanothor considering Carmilla claimed him to have the strongest power of darkness. Strangely, seems like magazines have also supported this if I remember right. And that said...

Should we apply all showcased powers of darkness together or at least put them into certain categories with abilities that's been shown by other users before?

 

[Unqver]

There are a lot of multiverses in Ultraman worldview, not one.

 

[WanderingGecko]

Blog looks good so far, I'll give it a proper check later.

Credited it you and Peter too btw.

Should we give Tiga Dark all the powers of darkness shown explicitly from at least the likes of Gatanothor considering Carmilla claimed him to have the strongest power of darkness. Strangely, seems like magazines have also supported this if I remember right. And that said...

I mean having the strongest power of darkness doesn’t necessarily mean you can use every single ability that other users of darkness can. But if it’s supported enough and is consistent then sure.