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This seems like a issue that has come up and settled before. However, I do believe that these are points that many miss in how he should be scaled to other universes. I am new and while I have read the rules somewhat throughly, I cannot figure out if these ideas can be supported depending upon how ridged the tier system may be when considering hax.
1. I understand giving him the tier 8A in the JoJo verse itself as he does not have access to anything that would make him beyond that in his verse. That stipulation aside, due to the battle neutral rules of the VS wiki I have read, why wouldn't he be able to copy any ability that has a genetic basis. Within his universe he can copy the genetics of anything on earth, which is the totality of genetic permutations/combination in JoJo and Kars has the totality of genetic permutation/combination in general. Why wouldn't he have the totality of genetic permutations of any universe he fights if you make his abilities universe neutral, henceforth allowing him to acquire any naturally/genetically passed down power he sees due to his power to copy such abilities due to his 400 IQ.
2. If he can copy an ability, due to him being past peak evolution along with the noted feat of him having above peak Hamon as hot as the sun, he should then be able to copy any natural ability of any universe he is in at above peak or at the very least at the same level, unless the ability explicitly keeps him from being able to do this.
3. I have seen in an argument that Kars cannot utilize inorganic material as his powers are purely organic, this is contradicted by him using the melted rock material absorbed from Magna to create armor along with the air around him. He has no feats backing him being able to utilize other inorganic material and I won't argue this point much further, it's simply food for thought if anyone wishes to argue that idea, especially considering that inorganic substances are derived from natural substances and I see no reason why he cannot use his composite animal abilities to super synthesize materials within his own body.
4. I understand that there should be other limits to this power, for instance if a universe contradicts conventional genetics or if the power may not be obtained naturally anywhere in the universe, then he should not be able to obtain it. Some may also stipulate that he may have to be attacked by or at least see the power before he may use it, which is indeed consistent with his power set, this makes him particularly venerable to reality warpers as their types of powers tend not to occur naturally and he would have to see it in action before he can copy it, opening the possibility he is insta erased.
In conclusion I am arguing that while within his own universe he is 8A his tier should actually dependent on who he is fighting if he is in another universe. Thank you for reading.
1. I understand giving him the tier 8A in the JoJo verse itself as he does not have access to anything that would make him beyond that in his verse. That stipulation aside, due to the battle neutral rules of the VS wiki I have read, why wouldn't he be able to copy any ability that has a genetic basis. Within his universe he can copy the genetics of anything on earth, which is the totality of genetic permutations/combination in JoJo and Kars has the totality of genetic permutation/combination in general. Why wouldn't he have the totality of genetic permutations of any universe he fights if you make his abilities universe neutral, henceforth allowing him to acquire any naturally/genetically passed down power he sees due to his power to copy such abilities due to his 400 IQ.
2. If he can copy an ability, due to him being past peak evolution along with the noted feat of him having above peak Hamon as hot as the sun, he should then be able to copy any natural ability of any universe he is in at above peak or at the very least at the same level, unless the ability explicitly keeps him from being able to do this.
3. I have seen in an argument that Kars cannot utilize inorganic material as his powers are purely organic, this is contradicted by him using the melted rock material absorbed from Magna to create armor along with the air around him. He has no feats backing him being able to utilize other inorganic material and I won't argue this point much further, it's simply food for thought if anyone wishes to argue that idea, especially considering that inorganic substances are derived from natural substances and I see no reason why he cannot use his composite animal abilities to super synthesize materials within his own body.
4. I understand that there should be other limits to this power, for instance if a universe contradicts conventional genetics or if the power may not be obtained naturally anywhere in the universe, then he should not be able to obtain it. Some may also stipulate that he may have to be attacked by or at least see the power before he may use it, which is indeed consistent with his power set, this makes him particularly venerable to reality warpers as their types of powers tend not to occur naturally and he would have to see it in action before he can copy it, opening the possibility he is insta erased.
In conclusion I am arguing that while within his own universe he is 8A his tier should actually dependent on who he is fighting if he is in another universe. Thank you for reading.
