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The strongest character for every tier part 9

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Like I said, I only know why it wouldn't work on Gilgamesh.


@Yobobojojo

To put it simply, it's a supercomputer of some sort that creates its own "pocket" reality, which we refer to as the Moon Cell. It's a highly complex structure with a ton of areas that are huge (some could be universal to infinite in size) and it all has its own rules. Its objective is observing the Earth and then reasearching possibilties etc. Extra CCC takes place inside the Moon Cell, in one of its areas.

What is important for this discussion is that BB merged with the Moon Cell and became the Moon Cell itself, gaining its functions. Therefore she can do within it whatever she wants.
 
ThisIsMySwagPack said:
Like I said, I only know why it wouldn't work on Gilgamesh.


@Yobobojojo

To put it simply, it's a supercomputer of some sort that creates its own "pocket" reality, which we refer to as the Moon Cell. It's a highly complex structure with a ton of areas that are huge (some could be universal to infinite in size) and it all has its own rules. Its objective is observing the Earth and then reasearching possibilties etc. Extra CCC takes place inside the Moon Cell, in one of its areas.

What is important for this discussion is that BB merged with the Moon Cell and became the Moon Cell itself, gaining its functions. Therefore she can do within it whatever she wants.
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Thanks. But how does the reality warping work, and does it have any major weaknesses?
 
Does Bayonetta have resistance to Law Manipulation?


It's pretty much "you can do whatever you want because you are it". The Moon Cell itself doesn't really have major weaknesses. Nothing that would be relevant in combat, as far as I remember.
 
I think John Constantine can occupy 9-A, if not also 9-C. His profile needs to be updated, a bit.

They also don't explain his synchronicity wave very well on the profile. It should be the equivalent to basically manipulating causality and fate.
 
Oh ****, I forgot about Constantine.

Yeah, he's probably way up there on the 9-A list as well. His current profile reflects that poorly, though...
 
He can resist being locked in a dance loop, time stopped, turned into a piece of toast, and then trapped in a pocket universe inside an inventory slot?
 
Heaven Ascension DIO is High 8-C not 8-B; so his name should be removed from that spot in place of another option for 8-B
 
(Regarding the thing about the goat)

Tbh, he could probably just cut Pilgor off from all of his powers like he did to Swamp Thing. Or trap him inside of his heart like he did to Doctor Fate. Synchronicity is also basically a passive/localized form of fate/causality manipulation that makes it so all of his dangerous gambles and tricks (things he always attempts during conflicts, btw) go off without a hitch, although he pays for it every day in the form of having quite possibly the shittiest personal life of any DC-owned character.

Also, I should probably point out that the old "Would X win against Y?" logic really doesn't work in this sort of contest. Case-in-point here would be the fact that Pilgor, Uboa, HD White Face and Evil Ernie (every last one of them is 9-A) are all capable of low-diffing each other under the right circumstances.
 
I'm not sure. I don't know what kind of qualities DC's Hell has that would make moving within it any different from moving within some other environment.

He's mostly portrayed as being not that impressive in terms of speed, though. Even in his rebooted incarnation (which is the one I've been talking about all this time), his best speed feat that I can recall was some instance of aimdodging bullets. As well, there aren't very many people whose speed he would scale to without PIS. He largely gets by on just on his ridiculous genius intellect and magical knowledge, knowing all the right spells to keep people from hurting him.
 
Eh. More like Peak Human, I think. He's considerably faster than typical humans, and was able to react to a sword-lunge from an athletic-looking guy like it was the slowest thing he'd ever seen. He also reacts fast enough that he can teleport to avoid attacks IIRC, but I'm pretty sure that's the extent of it.

There might be someone more impressive who he scales to from the JLD, but I can't remember, and I doubt it anyway. (Although I wouldn't be surprised, because lol DC)
 
What someone said Dio; I initially thought someone refered to him. Anyway, I noticed Dio is High 8-C so he shouldn't be on the 8-B list.

Speaking of which, Delta (Zero Escape) might replace the strongest 9-C character once he gets a profile; mind hacking, memory absorption, precognition via memory absorption, disease manipulation (Via Radical-6), Immortality type 1, Fate manipulation, time travel, and maybe some other abilities.
 
He's going to have a tough time competing with The Jonah for the speed equalized spot.

Although once I get around to rereading Nightside, I plan on revising both that profile and John Taylor, so their tiers will be subject to change by then. I don't remember either of those two performing Street level physical feats at any point.
 
TheHadouCyberspaceWitch said:
DIO's main forms of AP are 2-A.
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Yeah, this already got explained in an earlier iteration of this thread. He's only 2-A with a specific form of hax. The rest of his attacks are High 8-C. (Though he's getting upgraded, I hear)
Constantine's different. His normal, everyday firepower with magic is 9-A, and he doesn't even use his physical strength for anything.
 
The Twin Blade is a hax-based weapon. I'm talking about regular fighting. When it comes to what he uses in fights, the overwhelming majority of what he has at his disposal (outside of hax) is 9-A.

Basically, he doesn't qualify for 9-C for the same reason that Ainz Ooal Gow doesn't qualify for 9-A.
 
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