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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
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Well, that sub-forum can be used for such a purpose as well.
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In that case, would someone be willing to make a Marvel Projects page in Wiki Collaborations and linking it here?Well, that sub-forum can be used for such a purpose as well.
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Marvel Comics Projects
This thread is to compile in one place the CRTs people are planning for Marvel Comics. Just give a brief explanation of each CRT you are planning to do, and request help if wanted. Feel free to link sandboxes or blog posts relevant to your CRT as well. I will update the main post with a simple...
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Reminder this borderline wide-verse speed downgrade still has to be applied
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Just read Imperial.
It seems Grandmaster and Maximus were the ones behind it all, Grandmaster tried to sneak on Maximus but was "killed" by Black Bolt who seeks to get his empire back
Let's see who guessed right.
It seems Grandmaster and Maximus were the ones behind it all, Grandmaster tried to sneak on Maximus but was "killed" by Black Bolt who seeks to get his empire back
Let's see who guessed right.
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Curious because he doesn't have a profile and I was reading Immortal Hulk. How strong is Sasquatch as he doesn't have a profile? He should have all gamma mutate related abilities like green door stuff but he's also connected to a God right? Not sure about his feats in other stuff so just asking.
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I read a bit of him when I was reading alpha flight cuz of Captain Marvel, he was the muscle but I think he was clearly weaker than Carol.
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and the 1 planck debunk
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Friendship with Dematteis is over. Now Steve Gerber new king of comics powerscaling
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What issue is this from?
Friendship with Dematteis is over. Now Steve Gerber new king of comics powerscaling
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Fear vol 1 19#
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Thanks. There's also a lot of statements about higher dimensions here:
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I have read that several times. One of the best presentations of Marvel cosmology I've ever seen. I don't remember any other blog that mentioned ideaverse/land of fiction.
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S.H.I.E.L.D vol. 3 #5
Does anyone know where this scan is from?
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Many thanks!
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Does anyone knowledgable about Namor know if there are any statements of him getting stronger since World War II? I'm reading through Invaders stuff to make profiles, and many characters will be 5-B from scaling to him unless his is indicated to have been weaker back then
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Which of the characters will scale to him?
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So far I think Human Torch, Master Man, John Falsworth, and U-Man. Maybe Warrior Woman, since she seems kinda implied to be on Master Man's level, but I'll have to re-read the issues she is in. Not sure about Toro yet, I haven't seen much yet that establishes how strong he is relative to Human Torch.
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I don't really know much about those guys other than All new invaders, those guys fought Hela but Human torch and the entire team were humiliated by a Kree Accuser so...
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How strong are Accusers, generally? Is it normal for an Accuser to be stronger than the 5-Bs, or no?
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There is a page for the Kree I made, physically they are usually above 5-Bs there are many examples there, with the universal weapon then things go so much higher.
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Ok. i have seen enough High 1-A for my glorious gamma king when ?
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I'm actually happy because I was rooting hulk from the beginning just wasn't sure how he'd win
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I didn't even care who won, but this fight was SIIIIIIIICK!
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Pretty sure there was a post stating that there are no connection between them and it's just alternate reality that isn't Mainstream Earth 616
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MCU and Marvel Comics are often separated, occasionally "merge" when there's some tie-in media that wants to promote some MCU stuff, but after that gets separated once again.
Basically, there are many comics projects that "tie the MCU with the comics" that are even announced as actually being crossovers and gets promoted as such, but the comics and movies' worlds are so different that soon after such an idea is disregard, even before the promoted project is finished.
It's not unusual. There are many cases even in comics in which "something is canon" during promotion and initial release, but later gets disregard (Three Jokers for example). The opposite also happens, something widely considered non-canon during release, planning and promotion might start appearing in canon as well. Or just something in-between.
So, don't think of canon as something fixed and absolute, it's a fluid substance that can literally change each second.
Basically, there are many comics projects that "tie the MCU with the comics" that are even announced as actually being crossovers and gets promoted as such, but the comics and movies' worlds are so different that soon after such an idea is disregard, even before the promoted project is finished.
It's not unusual. There are many cases even in comics in which "something is canon" during promotion and initial release, but later gets disregard (Three Jokers for example). The opposite also happens, something widely considered non-canon during release, planning and promotion might start appearing in canon as well. Or just something in-between.
So, don't think of canon as something fixed and absolute, it's a fluid substance that can literally change each second.
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I've just finished reading Howard the Duck volume 3 and I can safely say it's probably the biggest piece of garbage unworthily called comic book ever made, or at least that I've had the misfortune to stumble upon.
It is completely unsalvageable and unforgivable in every aspect, aside from art the art, but it being wielded in such as revolting way makes it even more of a shame.
It is completely unsalvageable and unforgivable in every aspect, aside from art the art, but it being wielded in such as revolting way makes it even more of a shame.
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What makes it so awful?
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Since I've spent way too much time writing up elaborate complaints on this dumpster fire of a comic, I'll summarize everything with a bullet list
However, once given the chance to run a new volume all by himself, he creates this spectacular shitshow that prostitutes, debases and sacrifices his own character, world and legacy to the altar of shallow sensationalism.
I have come to believe he did it on purpose as a sort of petty and pitiful revenge towards Marvel, the readers of whoever, but in doing so he's just devalued himself, and even if he isn't really (that I cannot say) a homophobe, racist, transphobe and terminal hater of everything, then his use of these subjects for instrumental purpose makes it just as bad if not worse.
This stuff is worse than The Boys, Crossed and all of such comics put together, a real masterpiece of pointless trash, that I find it hard to accept someone at Marvel, even under the MAX brand, had the gut to greenlight and sell.
- Marvel MAX comic, so it overutilizes mature themes to, idk, look cool or feel progressive, radical, rebel, whatever.
- It's full of jokes, jabs or straight up offenses that are homophobic, transphobic and racist
- It jabs at religions, politics, popular trends, pop culture and whatever in ways that range from disgusting and offensive to just pointless and stale
- There's an excessive and pointless use of gore, violence, straight up nudity with no real purpose aside from mere shock value
- Most of the jokes, visual or textual, are so childish and immature, and based solely on sex and such.
- Most of everything, from primary art to background elements is based on the aforementioned themes and it's purposedly made as disgusting and revolting as possible
- The social critiques, pop culture references and reflections that made the first and second volumes great are horribly twisted and have no real sense nor direction, they're just there and poisoned by the above subjects
- The plot goes nowhere, it's just a sequence of disconnected events that don't start nor finish, and when they even try to glue them together, it's done through poor excuses and deus-ex machinas. Characters and situations are introduced, spent time upon and then just abandoned along the way
- Again, the plot or even the volume itself seems just like an excuse to vent the writer's frustration towards the whole and willingness to create as much scandal as possible
However, once given the chance to run a new volume all by himself, he creates this spectacular shitshow that prostitutes, debases and sacrifices his own character, world and legacy to the altar of shallow sensationalism.
I have come to believe he did it on purpose as a sort of petty and pitiful revenge towards Marvel, the readers of whoever, but in doing so he's just devalued himself, and even if he isn't really (that I cannot say) a homophobe, racist, transphobe and terminal hater of everything, then his use of these subjects for instrumental purpose makes it just as bad if not worse.
This stuff is worse than The Boys, Crossed and all of such comics put together, a real masterpiece of pointless trash, that I find it hard to accept someone at Marvel, even under the MAX brand, had the gut to greenlight and sell.
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I didn't realize you were talking about that storyline with the drunk and sociopathic Christian God. Yeah, that was garbage.
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The drunk and sociopathic christian god doesn't enter the top 100 of the worst things the run has, it's actually pretty tame comparitevely and not such a novel concept, even for the time.
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Is the series as bad as the "God is Dead" comic series? Because that was...something.
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A few months ago, I finished reading all the appearances of the Microverse and the Enigma Force, and here are my broad thoughts.
So first off, if you've been through lots of Marvel Cosmology debates that involve the Microverse, you likely would have seen a statement or two explaining how the Microverses aren't actually microscopic worlds that exist inside atoms, but parallel worlds that you access through nexus points that are reached by shrinking. There are several statements confirming this, and it isn't a new plot point. The first time this was stated was What If? (Vol. 1) #23; 1980, which is among the Microverse's earliest appearances as a whole.
At the same time though, even after that point, there are statements from the narrations of certain issues or other reliable sources like scientists confirming that Microverses are genuinely microscopic or exist inside atoms. In general, there are plenty of statements and plot points involving the Microverse that can't be interpreted in any other way than Micro-worlds being drastically small universes. This is arguably among the most consistently inconsistent parts of Marvel cosmology, since every other author seems to treat it differently. There's even a statement that says the Microverse is both parallel, and microscopic? I'd say this is one of those areas where you basically have to composite the statements and craft an interpretation that limits the contradictions as much as possible. Overall though, the Microverse's scale being atomic should be consistent in a broader sense.
That aside, the Microverse has consistent statements for being a multiverse, and I found some scans that might imply an infinite downwards hierarchy for the Microverse. That may not be important for upscaling the cosmology, but the fun of researching cosmology isn't strictly higher tiers. I also found pretty consistent statements for an infinite or uncountably infinite gap between Earth and the Microverse, and individual layers of the Microverse too.
There's another important thing about the Microverse as far as cosmology goes, that being how the Enigma Force is stated extremely consistently to be the embodiment of the Microverse and force that binds it together, and it draws its existence from the Microverse. It's hard to reconcile this with how the Enigma Force has feats on the level of Universal Eternity, but that's a can to kick down the road. Won't elaborate on general Captain Universe feats for now.
So first off, if you've been through lots of Marvel Cosmology debates that involve the Microverse, you likely would have seen a statement or two explaining how the Microverses aren't actually microscopic worlds that exist inside atoms, but parallel worlds that you access through nexus points that are reached by shrinking. There are several statements confirming this, and it isn't a new plot point. The first time this was stated was What If? (Vol. 1) #23; 1980, which is among the Microverse's earliest appearances as a whole.
At the same time though, even after that point, there are statements from the narrations of certain issues or other reliable sources like scientists confirming that Microverses are genuinely microscopic or exist inside atoms. In general, there are plenty of statements and plot points involving the Microverse that can't be interpreted in any other way than Micro-worlds being drastically small universes. This is arguably among the most consistently inconsistent parts of Marvel cosmology, since every other author seems to treat it differently. There's even a statement that says the Microverse is both parallel, and microscopic? I'd say this is one of those areas where you basically have to composite the statements and craft an interpretation that limits the contradictions as much as possible. Overall though, the Microverse's scale being atomic should be consistent in a broader sense.
That aside, the Microverse has consistent statements for being a multiverse, and I found some scans that might imply an infinite downwards hierarchy for the Microverse. That may not be important for upscaling the cosmology, but the fun of researching cosmology isn't strictly higher tiers. I also found pretty consistent statements for an infinite or uncountably infinite gap between Earth and the Microverse, and individual layers of the Microverse too.
There's another important thing about the Microverse as far as cosmology goes, that being how the Enigma Force is stated extremely consistently to be the embodiment of the Microverse and force that binds it together, and it draws its existence from the Microverse. It's hard to reconcile this with how the Enigma Force has feats on the level of Universal Eternity, but that's a can to kick down the road. Won't elaborate on general Captain Universe feats for now.
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