The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

[Everywhereman]

Psylocke profile definitely needs a revamp. She needs to be listed as Besty Braddock for starters and needs a captain Britain key. I was looking into fixing it.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Tell me when you publishing the revision

 

[The_Impress]

dude X-Men are so damn hard to research, tbh. Thousands of appearances and the stories are super wordy.

 

[The_Smashor]

So, I was just on a discord server where somebody said Heralds are 5D and Immeasurable giving only time travel feats for the latter and not actually saying anything for the former. Obviously, I disagreed with that, but when they explained why, one thing in particular caught my attention. Don't get me wrong, it did nothing to convince me of their stats, but it did bring one thing to my attention.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Avengers/JLA

They argued that due to a 2003 crossover between Marvel and DC that some Marvel and DC characters would scale to one another, and just looking at the wiki page for this event, I can see the argument. Marvel never made a new Earth designation for this event like they did with some other Marvel and DC crossovers (Such as Earth-7642 and Earth-74425) and apparently the events were mentioned in future comics from both series.

I thought I'd bring it up here before doing anything like making a crt to get people's opinions.

 

[Confluctor]

5-D base heralds? Why and how? Like some have legit hax on that level, sure, but base ap? Nahh.


also marvel never considered JLA/AVENGERS canon, only DC did to a certain degree. And that's just throwaway references here and there.

 

[The_Impress]

I mean its dumb to scale two otherwise unrelated continuities off of a single crossover lasting 4 issues total, we knew it existed for eons, but no way in hell we're gonna give it priority over their own feats, and they just not end up relevant as supporting feats as well.

Marvel side especially, only thing really calling it canon is the handbook (which for the record doesnt namedrop anything), which honestly is as legit as Smash being canon to Bayonetta off of the Amiibo letter.

It's a fun thought to have but we're not oofing 6 decades of showcase for a series that ran for 4 months and scales to characters never seen again in the verse, its disrespectful to either one of the medias.

 

[The_Smashor]

k, just wanted to check in about it.

Although with how the stats are currently marvel and dc characters might as well scale to each other

 

[TypeOU]

Although with how the stats are currently marvel and dc characters might as well scale to each other

aren't herald tier getting buffed to multi solar system?

 

[The_Impress]

3-C, DC equivalents are looking for Low 2-C/3-A iirc

 

[Overlord775]

Which era of dc does that apply to ?

 

[Confluctor]

post crisis

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Why are Skyfather Tier characters only "possibly 2-A" and not just outright 2-A?

 

[TypeOU]

Why are Skyfather Tier characters only "possibly 2-A" and not just outright 2-A?

inconsistencies iirc?


Also, heat manipulation resistance for Odinforce Thor ? I don't think he has it

 

[The_Impress]

also iirc evidencing at the time had issues

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

inconsistencies iirc?


Also, heat manipulation resistance for Odinforce Thor ? I don't think he has it

no base thor already has heat resistance

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

inconsistencies iirc?


Also, heat manipulation resistance for Odinforce Thor ? I don't think he has it

What inconsistencies?

also iirc evidencing at the time had issues

What were the issues? The current justifications and evidence look fine to me

 

[TypeOU]

no base thor already has heat resistance

mb, it was with his other "alien" resistances

 

[The_Impress]

What inconsistencies?

What were the issues? The current justifications and evidence look fine to me

Then make a thread mate :v

 

[The_Smashor]

I made a beta profile for Doombot, almost exclusively because I had to make a render of him for something else.

Anything I need to add?

 

[Confluctor]

Seems fine at a glance. But where the references at tho?

 

[The_Smashor]

Seems fine at a glance. But where the references at tho?

Right, references. I keep forgetting we need to have those. I'll add them RQ.

 

[The_Smashor]

Are there any universal abilities that all Doombots are considered to have that I should add? I remember seeing some on the Marvel wiki, but they also didn't cite their sources and seemingly didn't care much weather something was specialized for a specific Doombot and what was universal.

 

[Confluctor]

From what I can remember, the basic abilities of them include energy protection, electricity manip, forcefields, flight, superhuman physical characteristics ofc, info analysis via scanning, and self-destruction. Only ones I can recall atm

 

[Dust_Collector]

Profile looks good but the intelligence rating could really do with some scans

Also on the topic of Mahvel profiles, I've been working on revamping Odin (And also making a profile for Seth). Only real notable difference I've done for Odin so far are his powers and abilities and removing a single feat from his AP section.

 

[Confluctor]

Looks good at a glance, but the layout... oof. Not sure if its fitting lol

 

[Dust_Collector]

The layout is just for convenience while I'm editing, it's a lot easier for me to make changes when it's like that.

 

[Confluctor]

Understandable.

Thank god

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

revamping Odin (And also making a profile for Seth

Looks good

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Profile looks good but the intelligence rating could really do with some scans

Also on the topic of Mahvel profiles, I've been working on revamping Odin (And also making a profile for Seth). Only real notable difference I've done for Odin so far are his powers and abilities and removing a single feat from his AP section.

Looks great

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

not sure about using visions statement he was refereing to the greek gods not gods in general

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

revamping Odin (And also making a profile for Seth

By the way, wasn't it said that Seth could destroy Yggdrasil in the same arc where he fought odin?

 

[Dust_Collector]

not sure about using visions statement he was refereing to the greek gods not gods in general

I think he's only referring to the greek gods because they're the only ones that are really relevant to that storyline and because they're the ones who died and needed to be reborn.

By the way, wasn't it said that Seth could destroy Yggdrasil in the same arc where he fought odin?

Yeah but Seth was weakening Yggdrasil with a special machine for several months before he attempted to destroy it.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Yeah but Seth was weakening Yggdrasil with a special machine for several months before he attempted to destroy it.

Ok

 

[The_Smashor]

Anyone know how to cite the guidebook stats? The respect thread I used just called it "Avengers NOW!", but that's kind of a series

 

[The_Impress]

I made a beta profile for Doombot, almost exclusively because I had to make a render of him for something else.

Anything I need to add?

Don’t use Victor Mancha’s file for scaling, from the looks of it it uses Guidebook Scaling, which is a huge no-no

 

[The_Smashor]

Don’t use Victor Mancha’s file for scaling, from the looks of it it uses Guidebook Scaling, which is a huge no-no

OK.

Edit: So, should I just remove mention of him in the scaling altogether or should I just remove the stat?

 

[The_Impress]

OK.

Edit: So, should I just remove mention of him in the scaling altogether or should I just remove the stat?

former

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

hey, Tony Stark's A.I. what has he done where he downloads his memory would count as limited Immortality type 6?

 

[Confluctor]

Aye

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

When did Hulk push a 10x stronger than normal Warrior's Madness Thor towards the ground with one arm?

Stellar. Increases exponentially with rage (Capable of supporting the weight of a star, holding tectonic plates together, lifting and throwing mountains, pushed a 10x stronger than normal warrior's madness Thor towards the ground with one arm, separated spheres of matter and anti-matter, etc.)