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The possibility of the Silver Sea being a 1-B structure

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Well first I want to say I'm new to this wiki, so I'm new to this kind of thing, this kind of question has been around for a long time so I decided to discuss it, I looked at some things from the silver sea and decided to give it a try, well let's get started:


"In this little world, which exists deeper than your little world, the power of everything is in another dimension. Strength, speed, endurance, magic power, everything. Even the resistance of a grain of air would be a burden to you. If you unleash your shallow, world-destroying magic, you won't be able to destroy a single ship here."​



This is one of the main arguments for saying that upper layers are higher dimensions, I will try to interpret it as logically as possible. The fact that the character says that: “In this little world, which exists deeper than your little world, the power of everything is in another dimension”.

This text of my interpretation speaks clearly about a higher dimension, using logic there would be no reason for him to say that everything is in another dimension if the "other dimension" was also 4D just like the previous "dimension", mainly because if one interprets the speech like this It would look more or less like this (interpreted):


"In this little world that exists more deeply than your little world is 4D, this world where everything exists in another dimension is also 4D."​



What I mean is that there is no logic in saying that everything is in another dimension if even the worlds in a higher layer are also 4D, it is much easier to interpret this speech as a higher dimensional quote.

Of course, the "grain of air" quote would talk about the fact that the worlds that are located in the upper layers have an immeasurably higher order than the universes of the previous layer, besides that dimensionality does not increase the weight of things, but an immeasurably greater amount of concepts had obviously added to the weight of everything.

The magic laws in higher layers don't allow the use of magic from lower layers, but in the speech it says that even if he released the magic, which means that even if the magic could be used in deeper layers, his magic would still not destroy. a boat, this can be interpreted as a higher dimension or simply the concepts being immeasurably higher.

But an interesting thing is that the layers do not define everything exactly, as everyone here knows the worlds of maou gakuin that have immeasurably higher orders, and not the layer, the fact that the layer is what separates the worlds where the concepts are average immeasurably superior and at least interesting. Layers do not define how superior the orders are, but layers separate worlds that are even immeasurably higher.

The discussion is whether the layers are of higher dimensions that will make the universes too, the layers are the contracts that separate universes that are superior to any other in a shallower layer, in this case my interpretation is that one layer dimensionally transcends the other, while universes would only be dimensionally superior by existing within a higher dimensional hirearquy, the fact that he mentions that the world is in another dimension also makes it obvious that he is referring to the layer as another dimension, interpreting that he would be saying that the world exists in a higher dimensional contracting, of course this is just my most logical interpretation.

Now an interesting thing: "For the layers to transcend each other, you would have to know if maou gakuin uses the concept of transcendence"


In the case I have a friend who translated a certain speech for me, he translated it into 2 different languages to see if it had the same meaning and that the translation was correct, and this is the excerpt:


一呼吸の間に、四連突き。次元を越えたディルフィンシュテインが、発射直後の青き魔弾を貫いた。​

だが、爆発は起こらない。​

<魔深流失波濤砲ベレニツィア・ノイン>に似せたフェイクの魔弾だ。​

ビリジアは銃砲を捨て、魔槍の穂先をわしづかみにした。どれだけ次元を超えようと、その穂先とイージェスの手にしている魔槍はつながっている。そのまま、力任せに、奴はディルフィンシュテインを押さえつける。​



Translated excerpt:


During one breath, quadruple thrust. Dill Finstein, who transcends dimensions, pierces the blue magic bullet immediately after launch.​

However, the explosion does not occur.​

It is a fake magic bullet that resembles <Magic Deep Flow Lost Wave Cannon Berenizia Noin>.​

Villisia dropped the weapon and grabbed the tip of the magic spear. No matter how far beyond the dimension, the tip of the tip and the magic spear in Eges' hands are connected. As it is, he holds Dilfin Stein forcibly.​


WN chapter: 690


Being told that beings from shallower worlds shouldn't even be able to injure the hull.


Just to warn you, with this excerpt I don't want to prove that the cosmology of the Silver Sea is 1-A, because with this speech I just wanted to prove that the concept of transcendence exists in maou gakuin, to increase the possibility of the possible Downgrade.


If that doesn't lower the sea of silver, does my interpretation at least increase the possibility of the sea of silver 1-B?

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Also has this phrase that is interesting: "「あ、ありえんっ! そんなことはっ! 浅層世界の住人如き、船体に傷一つつけることができんはずだぞっ!!」"​



What is translated into this: "Oh, that's right! That's right! Like the inhabitants of the shallow world, you shouldn't be able to hurt the hull!"​

 
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another attempt? i thought they/you should discuss it to the MGNF thread first before posting the upgrade?
 
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Não 1-B aqui. Procure um dicionário e veja significados alternativos da palavra "dimensão"
I've already researched about dimension meanings in japan, the two that I saw that would really make sense in maou gakuin's work would be: Measure and plane.

According to the context of Maou gakuin "another dimension" and exactly what it sounds like, if for example you search another dimension in the Japanese language you will find examples of literally another dimension, nothing related to simply a different measure.

And he mentions that everything is in another dimension. Strength, speed, endurance, magic power, everything. This is totally the context of a higher dimension.
 
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Tch. Again with this? I don't know how many times I'm going to have to tell to refrain from creating this kind of threads as it will affect the possible upgrade of the verse in the future, if you have something to argue please do it in the verse thread.

i'll ask this to be closed
 
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