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This post is going to talk about the possible upscaling of Hinata due to her underrated feats performed in Naruto: The Last movie and its novelization which are both canon . Although the movie is considered more of canon material. Some of the scalings I'm going to use here comes from someone quite popular on Quora who specializes in scaling Hinata. I'm quite of a newbie around here so please if I make any mistakes in my scalings you could kindly and nicely inform me. Thanks.
First of all, let's talk about how powerful Base Naruto in TL(The Last) movie should be. Base TL Naruto is obviously going to be more powerful than his base self from the war arc and even his sage mode and KCM 1 self. Base the Last Naruto was able to react and counter Tenseigan mode Toneri's golden wheel incarnate and at the same time punching him in that process.
This reaction and combat speed feat was placed at "at least Relativistic" speed level. Now compared to his sage mode and KCM 1 self in the war arc which are calculated to be at most Sub-relativisitc lvl due to him reacting to the Raikage's fastest punch, TL Base Naruto is far faster than his KCM 1 version.
The reason why I think this is a wonderful way to upscale Hinata's speed is due to her being able to react, outmaneuver and beat Toneri's "Head Puppet" which is the leader of the other random puppets we saw in the Last movie. This Head puppet is the puppet that guards Toneri and lead the other smaller puppets.
This Head puppet was capable of reacting to a bloodlusted TL Naruto more than once
But when the puppet fought Hinata, he got manhandled easily by her. The puppet literally tried a sneak attack on her and got pummelled instead.
She did this without using her byakugan which would improve her combat and reaction speed. She also did this while fighting the other random puppets
In the novel's version, it was specifically stated that she fought multiple of the head puppets along with their lower-ranking subordinates this time around but she used her byakugan this time too.
And to make this feat even better, we all are aware on how puppetry works in the Narutoverse. The closer a puppeteer is to his puppet, the stronger the puppet becomes. For example, Nagato is able to control his six paths of pain better and more efficiently when he gets closer in location to his puppets. The same applies to Toneri's puppets. Naruto fought the head puppet at a considerable distance to the Tenseigan(the tenseigan powers the puppets) while Hinata fought the head puppet right in front of the tenseigan. This means the head puppet Hinata fought was even stronger than the head puppet that kept up with Naruto.
I think the reason she got this powerful and fast was that her base became amped with Hamura's chakra kinda the same way Naruto and Sasuke's base got amped too.
As for Hinata's durability upscale, it is gotten from when Toneri used his Silver wheel reincarnation explosion on Naruto, Hinata, Sai, Sakura and Shikamaru
This explosion blew a very large chunk of the moon. I might be wrong but this attack should be at the very least High 7A tier and likely far higher if we look at how wide the damage caused on the map in that GIF. The AOE looked a little larger compared to this.
I also checked out the novel. It was stated that Hinata got slammed from the crust of the moon to the surface
https://dochub.com/jwoneibsnwo-228/DL7JlEGV1EBQlPyVrWe0oa/img-20220101-0032085-jpg
https://dochub.com/dineiej0edjei-228/8YZWO9NV8gyXAxlKzEAy30/img-20220101-0032423-jpg
I researched how thick the crust of the moon was compared to the largest mountain on earth, and I found out that the crust of the moon was 100 kilometres thick while the thickness of the largest mountain on earth was just 70 kilometres.
Moon crust= 100 kilometres
Large Mountain crust= 70 kilometres.
Therefore, this feat is at least a large mountain lvl feat and likely higher.
As for further evidence, I got some help from someone who gave me a better idea of how to determine how much the damage on the moon caused.
Look at the angle of Naruto's position when Toneri captured Hinata after she tanked the attack
Can you see how slant and curved the walls are due to the crater the explosion caused?
Now see Kurama inside the same crater
It also has the same slant/curved walls indicating that the attack Hinata tanked was the exact same location Kurama was writing on.
There were only 3 gigantic explosions that occurred on the moon. The first was the attack Hinata tanked, the second was the attack that split the moon in half, and the third was the punch Naruto gave Toneri that caused a huge crater. We know that the crater Kurama is standing on obviously can't be from the moon-splitting attack and it wasn't from the punch Naruto gave Toneri either because we can clearly see that the crater Naruto's punch caused didn't make any curved wall
That leaves us with the last option which is the attack Hinata tanked and we could see the similarity between the craters. The fact than Kurama with "8 tails" could easily fit inside the crater Hinata tanked proves her durability does scale to at least large mountain level and far higher. Kurama is as large as a mountain but he looked small compared to the crater. Not to mention the depth Hinata had to tank.
At first when I saw this feat in the movie, I thought it was an error or an inconsistent scaling but it actually makes sense since her abilities were getting amped by Hamura's chakra. Everything about her powers became better the moment she got chakra from Hamura. Her byakugan became so much advanced that she could see over 20 KM, her Twin lion fist became purple in colour, she was capable of refillig Base Naruto and half Kurama's chakra effortlessly, she was able to outreact and blitz the head puppet that reacted to base Naruto's attack. So her tanking an attack that blew a large chunk of the moon shouldn't even suprise me. I feel that Hinata is severely underrated power-wise and only known as being a "waifu" while they overlook her feats.
It's nice becoming a new member here and I hope this post should convince you guys as this would be a new start and achievement in my scaling ability on battle wiki.
Thanks for Reading!
Majority Agreed for "at least Relativistic speed" and AP upgrade to Base Naruto lvl for Hinata: Bernkastelll, The_Alxhemist, Zeroshiki14, EmilioRory10, LordGriffin1000, UchihaSlayer96, LordTracer, DenLitz
Majority disagreed with Durability upscale because I needed to scale how much damage the attack that destroyed the large portion of the moon caused.
First of all, let's talk about how powerful Base Naruto in TL(The Last) movie should be. Base TL Naruto is obviously going to be more powerful than his base self from the war arc and even his sage mode and KCM 1 self. Base the Last Naruto was able to react and counter Tenseigan mode Toneri's golden wheel incarnate and at the same time punching him in that process.
This reaction and combat speed feat was placed at "at least Relativistic" speed level. Now compared to his sage mode and KCM 1 self in the war arc which are calculated to be at most Sub-relativisitc lvl due to him reacting to the Raikage's fastest punch, TL Base Naruto is far faster than his KCM 1 version.
The reason why I think this is a wonderful way to upscale Hinata's speed is due to her being able to react, outmaneuver and beat Toneri's "Head Puppet" which is the leader of the other random puppets we saw in the Last movie. This Head puppet is the puppet that guards Toneri and lead the other smaller puppets.
This Head puppet was capable of reacting to a bloodlusted TL Naruto more than once
Temporarily fought on par with TL Naruto twice indicating that it's AP is relative to Base Naruto's.
Outspeeding Naruto who was attempting to blitz him by expending a lot of chakra just to keep up but couldn't.
But when the puppet fought Hinata, he got manhandled easily by her. The puppet literally tried a sneak attack on her and got pummelled instead.
She did this without using her byakugan which would improve her combat and reaction speed. She also did this while fighting the other random puppets
In the novel's version, it was specifically stated that she fought multiple of the head puppets along with their lower-ranking subordinates this time around but she used her byakugan this time too.
These feats should put her at base TL Naruto's lvl in combat and reaction speed which is Relativistic and in AP as well.
And to make this feat even better, we all are aware on how puppetry works in the Narutoverse. The closer a puppeteer is to his puppet, the stronger the puppet becomes. For example, Nagato is able to control his six paths of pain better and more efficiently when he gets closer in location to his puppets. The same applies to Toneri's puppets. Naruto fought the head puppet at a considerable distance to the Tenseigan(the tenseigan powers the puppets) while Hinata fought the head puppet right in front of the tenseigan. This means the head puppet Hinata fought was even stronger than the head puppet that kept up with Naruto.
I think the reason she got this powerful and fast was that her base became amped with Hamura's chakra kinda the same way Naruto and Sasuke's base got amped too.
As for Hinata's durability upscale, it is gotten from when Toneri used his Silver wheel reincarnation explosion on Naruto, Hinata, Sai, Sakura and Shikamaru
This explosion blew a very large chunk of the moon. I might be wrong but this attack should be at the very least High 7A tier and likely far higher if we look at how wide the damage caused on the map in that GIF. The AOE looked a little larger compared to this.
Only Hinata and KCM Naruto where shown to be able to get up immediately after Toneri launched that explosion.
Sakura, Sai and Shikamaru were nowhere to be found anymore after the attack. The next time we saw them was after Naruto completely defeated Toneri which was over one hour later via the Raikage's statement of giving Naruto's team an extra hour of fighting on the moon before blowing it up. Sakura, Sai and Shikamaru were probably healing up their wounds after the explosion because it would make no sense for us not to see them anymore till after the fight. This should scale Hinata's durability to the impact of the explosion which is at least large mountain level.
I also checked out the novel. It was stated that Hinata got slammed from the crust of the moon to the surface
https://dochub.com/jwoneibsnwo-228/DL7JlEGV1EBQlPyVrWe0oa/img-20220101-0032085-jpg
https://dochub.com/dineiej0edjei-228/8YZWO9NV8gyXAxlKzEAy30/img-20220101-0032423-jpg
I researched how thick the crust of the moon was compared to the largest mountain on earth, and I found out that the crust of the moon was 100 kilometres thick while the thickness of the largest mountain on earth was just 70 kilometres.
Moon crust= 100 kilometres
Large Mountain crust= 70 kilometres.
Therefore, this feat is at least a large mountain lvl feat and likely higher.
As for further evidence, I got some help from someone who gave me a better idea of how to determine how much the damage on the moon caused.
Look at the angle of Naruto's position when Toneri captured Hinata after she tanked the attack
Can you see how slant and curved the walls are due to the crater the explosion caused?
Now see Kurama inside the same crater
It also has the same slant/curved walls indicating that the attack Hinata tanked was the exact same location Kurama was writing on.
There were only 3 gigantic explosions that occurred on the moon. The first was the attack Hinata tanked, the second was the attack that split the moon in half, and the third was the punch Naruto gave Toneri that caused a huge crater. We know that the crater Kurama is standing on obviously can't be from the moon-splitting attack and it wasn't from the punch Naruto gave Toneri either because we can clearly see that the crater Naruto's punch caused didn't make any curved wall
That leaves us with the last option which is the attack Hinata tanked and we could see the similarity between the craters. The fact than Kurama with "8 tails" could easily fit inside the crater Hinata tanked proves her durability does scale to at least large mountain level and far higher. Kurama is as large as a mountain but he looked small compared to the crater. Not to mention the depth Hinata had to tank.
At first when I saw this feat in the movie, I thought it was an error or an inconsistent scaling but it actually makes sense since her abilities were getting amped by Hamura's chakra. Everything about her powers became better the moment she got chakra from Hamura. Her byakugan became so much advanced that she could see over 20 KM, her Twin lion fist became purple in colour, she was capable of refillig Base Naruto and half Kurama's chakra effortlessly, she was able to outreact and blitz the head puppet that reacted to base Naruto's attack. So her tanking an attack that blew a large chunk of the moon shouldn't even suprise me. I feel that Hinata is severely underrated power-wise and only known as being a "waifu" while they overlook her feats.
It's nice becoming a new member here and I hope this post should convince you guys as this would be a new start and achievement in my scaling ability on battle wiki.
Thanks for Reading!
Majority Agreed for "at least Relativistic speed" and AP upgrade to Base Naruto lvl for Hinata: Bernkastelll, The_Alxhemist, Zeroshiki14, EmilioRory10, LordGriffin1000, UchihaSlayer96, LordTracer, DenLitz
Majority disagreed with Durability upscale because I needed to scale how much damage the attack that destroyed the large portion of the moon caused.
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