The Kaguya Thread To End All Kaguya Threads

[The_King_of_Prudence]

> Also Kep regarding your point, that's not true at all, Kaguya has only ever shown to be able to create dimensions with only 1 move, her ETSB, anything else would be a baseless assumption to make, and her ETSB doesn't scale to her normal statistics.

Kaguya can only use the ETSB with all the preptime in the world. There is zero indication that she'd ever used that move or met the conditions beforehand. Her dimensions were clearly created normally.

From what I've heard, she had all the prep time in the world.

 

[AKM sama]

Guys, STAFF only.

 

[Antvasima]

For what it is worth, I have no problem with simply giving Kaguya a tier 4-C Creation ability, and keep all of her other statistics as they are. That doesn't seem to be such a big deal.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Guys, STAFF only.

There, happy?

 

[Crabwhale]

Haha, very funny.

But no seriously, stop.

 

[TataHakai]

For what it is worth, I have no problem with simply giving Kaguya a tier 4-C Creation ability, and keep all of her other statistics as they are. That doesn't seem to be such a big deal.

How would this look on her profile Ant?

 

[Elizhaa]

Personally, I think her Creation of her space-time/realm would works better a High 4-C Pocket Reality Manipulation.

 

[Antvasima]

How would this look on her profile Ant?

First we write her regular statistics, and then her separate creation statistics, but it would only be necessary in the tier and attack potency sections.

 

[TataHakai]

But her creation is based on her ETSB isn't it? I don't recall Kaguya ever showing the ability to create her dimensions without it

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am admittedly not well informed regarding the specifics. Sorry.

 

[TataHakai]

Well, I am admittedly not well informed regarding the specifics. Sorry.

I still think we should go with my suggestion

At least 5-B, higher with Infinite Tsukuyomi. High 4-C with Expansive Truth Seeking Ball.

As stated before in this thread by multiple others, ETSB doesn't scale to her normal stats, it's how we've always done her stats here (If you check her profile her ETSB is rated separately)

 

[Antvasima]

Can she use the ETSB as a focused attack?

 

[TataHakai]

In what sense?

 

[Antvasima]

I am only on board with stating that she can create stars, not that she can focus all the power of a star into an attack.

 

[TataHakai]

Her ETSB simply destroys and re-creates entire dimensions

 

[Antvasima]

Well, 4-C environmental destruction perhaps then?

 

[TataHakai]

Honestly, that's probably best

At least 5-B, higher with Infinite Tsukuyomi. High 4-C enviromental destruction with Expansive Truth Seeking Ball?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

If it has no way of being used to directly harm opponents as opposed to the ability just covering a large area, I would agree to Environmental Destruction.

 

[TataHakai]

If the opponents are within the dimension/AOE then they would die too

But it's not so much a focused attack on them as it is "Destroy the dimension", them being damaged is kind of a side effect of the destruction

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I mean, wouldn't trapping someone in a dimension and destroying it disregard durability anyways?

But yeah, if it's not directed at an opponent, it should be ED; sort of like how a large storm can still indirectly kill people through collateral damage.

 

[TataHakai]

I'm fine with that

So her stats would look like this

At least 5-B, higher with Infinite Tsukuyomi. High 4-C Environmental Destruction with Expansive Truth Seeking Ball

Attack Potency: "At least Planet level (Stated to be more powerful than even the Sage of the Six Paths, overpowered Naruto's attacks, easily destroyed Sasuke's Susanoo, and changed the environment of an entire planet), higher with Infinite Tsukuyomi (The Chakra absorbed from Infinite Tsukiyomi Increases her stats exponentially). Large Star Level Environmental Destruction with the Expansive Truth-Seeking Ball. (Kaguya's dimensions contain Stars and Planets and her ETSB is capable of destroying and re-creating them) The Gentle Fist bypasses durability to an extent as it directly targets the nerves and life energy channels to disrupt the target's movements and ability to control their inner energy"

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I agree to that wholeheartedly.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Also agree

 

[Crabwhale]

That seems about roight to me as well.

 

[KLOL506]

Seems good to me too.

 

[Wokistan]

IS she like, unable to just shoot someone with the ball

 

[KLOL506]

IS she like, unable to just shoot someone with the ball

More or less.

 

[KLOL506]

I'm fine with that
So her stats would look like this

At least 5-B, higher with Infinite Tsukuyomi. High 4-C Environmental Destruction with Expansive Truth Seeking Ball

Attack Potency: "At least Planet level (Stated to be more powerful than even the Sage of the Six Paths, overpowered Naruto's attacks, easily destroyed Sasuke's Susanoo, and changed the environment of an entire planet), higher with Infinite Tsukuyomi (The Chakra absorbed from Infinite Tsukiyomi Increases her stats exponentially). Large Star Level Environmental Destruction with the Expansive Truth-Seeking Ball. (Kaguya's dimensions contain Stars and Planets and her ETSB is capable of destroying and re-creating them) The Gentle Fist bypasses durability to an extent as it directly targets the nerves and life energy channels to disrupt the target's movements and ability to control their inner energy"

Tata, you forgot to link the pocket dimension calc to the High 4-C stat.

EDIT: FTFY

 

[Wokistan]

Seems fine I guess then. Make sure to not scale to Striking Strength

 

[KLOL506]

Seems fine I guess then. Make sure to not scale to Striking Strength

It wasn't gonna scale to her striking strength in the first place OvO

Only AP, not striking strength or dura.

 

[Antvasima]

So have we mostly agreed about applying this change?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

This seems fine.

 

[TataHakai]

So have we mostly agreed about applying this change?

I think so yes

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. It may be best to first wait to see if Kepekley accepts the change though.

 

[Kepekley23]

The above was all I was going to say about the subject. I don't wish to participate further in this topic.

 

[Damage3245]

Apologies for butting in to a staff-only thread but can I ask for clarification on what this line is referring to?:

> and changed the environment of an entire planet

 

[Arkenis]

Remember she controlled the ice in the ice dimension

 

[Damage3245]

Okay, thanks.

 

[Antvasima]

Would the rest of you be fine with if I unlock the page for TataHakai to edit?

 

[Skalt711]

...Except that TataHakai has already applied his changes.