The Hero Hunter vs The Sword Hero

[KingEzran]

Base Garou and Kizuna's World Raphtalia are used. Let's get into the details of this versus thread.

-Speed Equalized

-Both in Character

-Location: Kizuna's World

-Range: 5 meters

-Win via death

Votes:

Garou: 0

Raphtalia: 0

 

[YungManzi]

>The Sword Hero

>Not Ren Amaki

Kek

 

[Phoenks]

"Range: 5 meters"

Uh... Wouldn't Garou close combat stomp?

 

[YungManzi]

"Range: 5 meters"
Uh... Wouldn't Garou close combat stomp?

I don't think so. Nothing he has is a one-shot. Not even WSRSF, which he is completely unwilling to use outside of situations where he's already losing pretty badly.

Aside from that; he's more skilled than Raphtalia in CQC, but Raphtalia has better range and is actually pretty skilled with a blade herself (Fighting on par with the best swordsmen in all of Melromarc)

In regards to AP. Both scale a very good amount above the feats given (Although I would argue Raph's scaling chain goes on quite a bit farther). But Raphtalia scales to a feat which is already 2x the feat Garou scales to.

So...as far as who wins? Idk, kinda inconclusive/slightly in Raphtalia's favor.

 

[MrKerf]

Thanks for the links on their pages, really helpful.

Jokes aside, how fast can she put hero hunter down? If the fight will take long enough, I think he will use WSRSF and will take the win pretty easily.

 

[YungManzi]

Well she has AP and some durability negating attacks (Although she only really uses those against stonewalls or much stronger opponents).

Garou also doesn't have a way around her illusions, although she doesn't use those as much because she's so powerful and skilled (Naofumi literally states that she doesn't use it for this reason), so if she gets in trouble, she can use that.

 

[MrKerf]

Well, again, can she defeat him before he pills out water fist?

Well, he can adapt to illusions, I suppose.

 

[YungManzi]

Well, again, can she defeat him before he pills out water fist?

I already gave you some ways she could take him out. And in this key his RE isn't exactly fast-working, nor has it been shown to work on something like illusions.

 

[MrKerf]

Wait a sec, nvm, I got it.

Her first move, apparently, is fast draw attack of her katana, correct?

 

[YungManzi]

Ah yes. I forgot about that. It activates automatically when she draws her katana.

Edit:

Although it's not a single attack.

More like a few seconds to maybe tens of seconds of a huge speed boost.

 

[MrKerf]

Then, if he dodges/survives it, he will go straight to water smashing, because this attack would be so fast, that he would decide to take this seriously. Well, I think.

 

[Phoenks]

The range is 5 meters, Garou pretty much instantly gets on her with his adapting martial arts skill.


I don't believe Raphtalia has anything that can keep up with him but idk.

 

[YungManzi]

She starts off way faster than him and with an AP advantage.

She's also pretty skilled herself.

 

[Phoenks]

Speed is equal lol

 

[YungManzi]

Speed is equal lol

Not what I was referring to.

"Vassal Katana (When she first draws the Vassal katana, her speed is greatly increased, to a point where she becomes much faster than comparable opponents; this has a cooldown of around 3 minutes and she can only charge it by keeping her katana in its sheath)"

 

[Phoenks]

Eh, Garou becomes passively faster, but i guess that is pretty good for when the fight first begins.

Anything else?

 

[KingEzran]

So do Phoenks and MrKerf vote Garou? And does YungManzi vote Raphtalia or incon?

 

[MrKerf]

I'll wait for a bit.

 

[Phoenks]

Also waiting. Raphtalia is a very hard opponent for Garou

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

What does she start with?

 

[YungManzi]

Speed boost which is damn near a blitz.

She also has AP advantage.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

What is her AP?

 

[YungManzi]

Around 250 kilotons. And her scaling chain is far larger than Garou's scaling above Genos's feat.

Like Naofumi at level 40 with no power up methods could defend against the 250 kiloton feat. And this Raphtalia is around level 70 with full power up methods (Not to menton her stats were doubled upon class-up and she gets further boosted stats from leveling via Naofumi). And someone with even 1 powerup method vs someone with full power up methods (even at the same level) is enough to speed blitz and one-shot.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Very convoluted scaling chain but I guess it is way more than what Garou has.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...o_Nariagari_/_Rising_of_the_Shield_Hero_Feats

one thing I want to note though, he says it's melting but then uses vaporization for the calc? Kinda weird.

 

[YungManzi]

Very convoluted scaling chain but I guess it is way more than what Garou has.

Okay I'll make it a bit easier.

Level 40 without powerups = 250 kilotons

Level 70 without powerups >>>>>>> Level 40 without powerups

Level 70 with full powerups>>>>>>>>> Level 70 without powerups

Raphtalia's Level 70 with powerups >>> Any other Level 70 with powerups

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

If she gives him no time to adapt, she might kill him. He has Instictive Reaction, Analytical Prediction, and Info Analysis. Can she get past this?

 

[KingEzran]

bump

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

If she gives him no time to adapt, she might kill him. He has Instictive Reaction, Analytical Prediction, and Info Analysis. Can she get past this?

 

[YungManzi]

Being much faster and stronger than him.

Those are her biggest advantages.

She can also use invisibility and, like any other hero, has a stockpile of healing and recovery potions. Which she can use to recover stamina, magic, sp, or heal from scars and severe burns.