The God of High School Discussion Thread 4: Post-Anime Apocalypse

[sunshine]

I made this. So for now there 3 Characters in verse is 2-C.

Tang Sanzang

Tang Sanzang may refer to: The character from A Chinese Odyssey The character from The God of High School

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I forgot who the other one is beside Mori and Xuanzang.

 

[sunshine]

1) if Xuanzang gets immeasurable LS then we should probably upgrade that for Mori’s profile as well.

2) I would use this scan for lifting strength since I think it’s a better justification for it.

But still really good work.

Agreed, that scan is much better and we should ong

 

[Megaraptor149]

Should Thatagata 2-C too?

Since he reaches Nirvana during his death after battling with Mori (Chapter 516). Talk about Thatagata, his profile are messed up and outdated.

 

[Megaraptor149]

I forgot who the other one is beside Mori and Xuanzang.

Mubong, but his profil kinda messed up too.

 

[sunshine]

Should Thatagata 2-C too?

Since he reaches Nirvana during his death after battling with Mori (Chapter 516). Talk about Thatagata, his profile are messed up and outdated.

He 100% should, afterall he was another character that was able to control Karma, which is described as an existence that carries ALL creation. He continuously trapped Mori in Karma thru the whole series.

 

[Yeolban]

I made this. So for now there 3 Characters in verse is 2-C.

Tang Sanzang

Tang Sanzang may refer to: The character from A Chinese Odyssey The character from The God of High School

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Only one thing- Why is her name said twice?

"Tang Sanzang" is the JJTW character inspired by the real monk Xuanzang, and it basically serves as an alternative name. So you're just saying her name twice.

Also, what is a "schooler"? I'd rather change that up with "Prophet".

May I ask why it's "formerly" on human?

If Xuanzang's large size is Type 9, Mori's should be updated aswell, since he's currently "Type 8, likely Type 9".

 

[Yeolban]

He 100% should, afterall he was another character that was able to control Karma, which is described as an existence that carries ALL creation. He continuously trapped Mori in Karma thru the whole series.

big T definitely can do fate manip and allat, but was it explicitly stated it was karma? Reminder that Mori used "karmic retribution" to erase Mujin with a single word (karmic retribution wasn't translated in english scans lol), but neither Mujin nor Tathy were shown to ever be able to do that. Mujin was rather in awe that he could do allat.

 

[azontr]

schooler

Likely meant "scholar". Or "Monk".

 

[Yeolban]

Likely meant "scholar". Or "Monk".

I guess?

"Tang Sanzang" is the JJTW character inspired by the real monk Xuanzang, and it basically serves as an alternative name. So you're just saying her name twice.

To fix it, just rename it to "Tang Xuanzang", and for names you can also add the korean localization "Samjang" (I don't remember if it was in the english scans though).

 

[Yeolban]

Should Thatagata 2-C too?

Since he reaches Nirvana during his death after battling with Mori (Chapter 516). Talk about Thatagata, his profile are messed up and outdated.

wh?? huh?? Tathagata never reached Nirvana what?? Why would the anti-buddha reach Nirvana what?

 

[azontr]

Tathagata would be "at most" 2-C for scaling to Mujin, who barely harmed Nirvana Mori. But that's it. He didn't reach the same state of existence as Mori did.

 

[sunshine]

big T definitely can do fate manip and allat, but was it explicitly stated it was karma? Reminder that Mori used "karmic retribution" to erase Mujin with a single word (karmic retribution wasn't translated in english scans lol), but neither Mujin nor Tathy were shown to ever be able to do that. Mujin was rather in awe that he could do allat.

Yea there are a lot of implications of it being Karma, like this scan here, along with many other straightforward and obvious implications of it. So yeah, it is Karma

 

[azontr]

Yea there are a lot of implications of it being Karma, like this scan here, along with many other straightforward and obvious implications of it. So yeah, it is Karma

Tathagata's Karmic Cycle he establishes is an entirely different concept than the "Karma" Mori achieves.

First scan doesn't even mean anything, because "Karma" (the actual word Karma which means retribution for your actions) and "Karma" (the state of existence) are 2 entirely different things

 

[Yeolban]

Yea there are a lot of implications of it being Karma, like this scan here, along with many other straightforward and obvious implications of it. So yeah, it is Karma

The first scan is not applicable. It doesn't imply Tathagata controls karma, it just says that mujin's actions came back to bite him in the ass.

Again, I'm not denying the fate manipulation, but Tathagata was never shown to be able to control karma to the extent Mori does. Otherwise 1 word would've been enough to erase anything that stood in his way and wouldn't have been so desperate to make himself fit into the prophecy.

 

[sunshine]

The first scan is not applicable. It doesn't imply Tathagata controls karma, it just says that mujin's actions came back to bite him in the ass.

Again, I'm not denying the fate manipulation, but Tathagata was never shown to be able to control karma to the extent Mori does. Otherwise 1 word would've been enough to erase anything that stands in his way and wouldn't have been so desperate to make himself fit into the prophecy.

Never said to the extent Mori does, but the whole story was revolving around Mori breaking out of Tathagata's Cycle, aka his palm which goes hand-in-hand with him controlling Mori's fate with Karma as earlier shown, and trapping him in Samsara, which is as we know a by-product under Karma (this is all same chapter btw) and even Mori states everything repeats itself. So this is very clear that yes, he can control Karma.

 

[Yeolban]

Never said to the extent Mori does

Then he does not scale to 2C.

 

[sunshine]

Then he does not scale to 2C.

Bro we're talking abt Karma, aren't we? I never said he scales to 2-C

 

[azontr]

He 100% should, afterall he was another character that was able to control Karma, which is described as an existence that carries ALL creation. He continuously trapped Mori in Karma thru the whole series.

Yeah you did

 

[sunshine]

Yeah you did

I was talking about Karma, not the 2-C tier, that he should have fate manip, misunderstanding shenanigans

 

[Yeolban]

Bro we're talking abt Karma, aren't we? I never said he scales to 2-C

Should Thatagata 2-C too?

He 100% should, afterall he was another character that was able to control Karma

 

[sunshine]

Read above

 

[azontr]

Your response was in relation to a question asking if Tathagata should scale to 2-C, you can see how it's very easy to mistake what you mean if you don't clarify lel.

 

[sunshine]

Should have worded it better, I'm feeling kinda sick, sorry guys for the misunderstandings, but to clarify I think he should have Fate manip and all of other Karma abilities, but not scale to 2-C

 

[azontr]

Should have worded it better, I'm feeling kinda sick, sorry guys for the misunderstandings, but to clarify I think he should have Fate manip and all of other Karma abilities, but not scale to 2-C

Fate Manipulation is fine and he basically already has it scaling to Mujin, but having all the other abilities that Mori does...? Yeah, that's a bit of a stretch.

Feel better soon, BTW.

 

[sunshine]

Fate Manipulation is fine and he basically already has it scaling to Mujin, but having all the other abilities that Mori does...? Yeah, that's a bit of a stretch.

Feel better soon, BTW.

What I mean is that the scans I sent above all justify him having Karma do they not? And also, not ALL, just all that comes with Karma, including:
Life Manipulation
Death Manipulation
Plant Manipulation
Healing
Fate Manipulation
Concept Manipulation

(That's all)

Tysm

 

[sunshine]

I made this. So for now there 3 Characters in verse is 2-C.

Tang Sanzang

Tang Sanzang may refer to: The character from A Chinese Odyssey The character from The God of High School

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Also, idk if "being free from all physical constraits" are enough for her and Mori to have inf stamina.

 

[azontr]

What I mean is that the scans I sent above all justify him having Karma do they not? And also, not ALL, just all that comes with Karma, including:
Life Manipulation
Death Manipulation
Plant Manipulation
Healing
Fate Manipulation
Concept Manipulation

(That's all)

Tysm

These abilities specifically come from Mori's own feats of utilizing Karma. You yourself have agreed that Tathagata does not possess Mori's Karma, hence he shouldn't have abilities Mori has demonstrated, as these aren't general abilities, and we don't have a way to demonstrate or prove that they are general.

+ he has literally all of that anyways scaling from Mujin, lmao

 

[sunshine]

These abilities specifically come from Mori's own feats of utilizing Karma. You yourself have agreed that Tathagata does not possess Mori's Karma, hence he shouldn't have abilities Mori has demonstrated, as these aren't general abilities, and we don't have a way to demonstrate or prove that they are general.

+ he has literally all of that anyways scaling from Mujin, lmao

I have agreed they aren't to that great of an extent, it's Karma, something they both use. And if that's the case then whatev, if he has them via Mujin then that makes sense.

 

[azontr]

Different extents of an ability can grant different uses and potential utilizations. Think of it like a verse-specific-power page, with categories split by proficiency/whatever system used to separate shit.

They use the same thing, yeah maybe, but that doesn't mean they can do the same things.

 

[sunshine]

Different extents of an ability can grant different uses and potential utilizations. Think of it like a verse-specific-power page, with categories split by proficiency/whatever system used to separate shit.

They use the same thing, yeah maybe, but that doesn't mean they can do the same things.

Yea I understand that completely. What I mean is just that they should be able to use them similarly but we ofc haven't seen Tathagata use Karma as efficiently as Mori, otherwise he would've been able to just erase Mori n shit, but yea I get that.

Also does that mean Mori can use the verse's hax more likely more efficiently?

 

[azontr]

Similarly, yeah. Tathagata at least has the fate manipulation aspect of Karma, so the fact that they can utilize the concept to achieve similar effects is evident.

 

[Megaraptor149]

Only one thing- Why is her name said twice?

"Tang Sanzang" is the JJTW character inspired by the real monk Xuanzang, and it basically serves as an alternative name. So you're just saying her name twice.

Also, what is a "schooler"? I'd rather change that up with "Prophet".

May I ask why it's "formerly" on human?

If Xuanzang's large size is Type 9, Mori's should be updated aswell, since he's currently "Type 8, likely Type 9".

Cuz is based of JTTW, that why i using it, but i think it can be changed.
Many of her information i used it from GOH wiki.
Because she is already dead?
Yeah it should.

Tathagata would be "at most" 2-C for scaling to Mujin, who barely harmed Nirvana Mori. But that's it. He didn't reach the same state of existence as Mori did.

It's fine giving him At most 2-C, due to scaling from Mujin.

wh?? huh?? Tathagata never reached Nirvana what?? Why would the anti-buddha reach Nirvana what?

See Chapter 516, what i talking about.

Also, idk if "being free from all physical constraits" are enough for her and Mori to have inf stamina.

It's enough maybe and it should work. Is stamina related to physical stuff.

 

[sunshine]

Thrilled abt doing Mori vs the Touhou MC thread rn
Most likely Mori slaps tho

 

[sunshine]

Cuz is based of JTTW, that why i using it, but i think it can be changed.
Many of her information i used it from GOH wiki.
Because she is already dead?
Yeah it should.

It's fine giving him At most 2-C, due to scaling from Mujin.

See Chapter 516, what i talking about.

It's enough maybe and it should work. Is stamina related to physical stuff.

I mean yea stamina is also a physical stat but I have seen no character get inf stamina just by similar statements of transcending the 3rd dimension

 

[Megaraptor149]

Thrilled abt doing Mori vs the Touhou MC thread rn
Most likely Mori slaps tho

Is not they have CM1, it would Likely stomp.

Talk about touhou their Characters is haxxed.

 

[sunshine]

Is not they have CM1, it would Likely stomp.

Talk about touhou their Characters is haxxed.

Mori also has CM

 

[Megaraptor149]

Mori also has CM

CM2 & CM3

 

[sunshine]

Damn bruh, I see

 

[Megaraptor149]

I mean yea stamina is also a physical stat but I have seen no character get inf stamina just by similar statements of transcending the 3rd dimension

It's different case btw, but her have supporting statement not only transcends 3rd dimension, but freed from physical constraint.

 

[Megaraptor149]

Already rename btw.

Tang Sanzang (The God of High School)

Have a kid, fall in love, laugh and cry... and enjoy life to your heart's content. Have a good life together with everyone. That's my wish for you.Sanzang to Mori Tang Sanzang was a descendant of Gaia who was tricked by Tathagata into embarking on a journey with her disciples that would end in...

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