The Doctor (Doctor Who) vs. Tatsuya Shiba (The Irregular at Magic High School)

[Hallowed_Ground_the_Man]

Conditions for the battle:

* Tatsuya and Miyuki have composite feats from the anime, manga, and light novels, and any official canonical work featuring them which contains feats that can be attributed to them.

* Tatsuya is equipped with his CADs and any other "standard tech/gear" he typically possesses. If necessary, Tatsuya can access the Third Eye CAD. He may also use his combat armor or other gear he has as Ooguro Ryuuya.

* The Thirteenth Doctor is used in the battle, but she has composite feats from all of her previous and future incarnations (this would include the television series, audio dramas, comics, novels, and any other official fiction that features the Doctor or contains feats that can be attributable to her).

* The Doctor is equipped with the Thirteenth Doctor's sonic screwdriver and it has composite feats and functions from all versions of the sonic screwdriver she has owned. For this battle, the sonic screwdriver also has feats and functions from River's sonic screwdriver and the sonic sunglasses (as it was used as a substitute for the sonic screwdriver on occasion during the Twelfth Doctor's era).

* The Doctor has access to their respective TARDISes and may start the battle inside it if necessary. She can access anything she is canonically known to keep inside her TARDIS for this battle and could theoretically use such objects to craft/scrounge gear/tech/weapons to use in the battle. The Doctor not leave the grounds of First High School in a TARDIS during the battle to go to another location or time period. However, she can use the TARDIS as a conventional mode of transportation/teleportation to travel between locations on the grounds of First High School provided both the origin and destination are in the same time period. If she remotely control her TARDIS, she may send it to another location in space and time, provided she is not inside it when that happens. The Doctor may also use her TARDIS as a physical weapon to attack Tatsuya, if it is within character to do so in the given round.

* Tatsuya is capable of using Regrowth. The Doctor is capable of regeneration and has as many regenerations as she is known to possess.

* Victory by death or incapacitation. For Tatsuya, a loss by death means destroying his brain or otherwise inhibiting it to prevent him from using Regrowth or exhausting his psions to the point that he cannot use Regrowth. For the Doctor, a loss by death means exhausting all of her regenerations or killing her and preventing them from regenerating. BFR is an acceptable win condition by incapacitation.

* Magic is clearly something present in Doctor Who and Mahouka and should be equalized between them. Therefore, if one combatant can affect the other with magic, it stands to reason that the other should be able to nullify or counteract said magic if he has the general ability to do so to magic in his franchise.

Location: First High School. Each combatant starts the battle on opposite sides of the First High School building.

* All combatants are in-character for rounds 1 and 2.

* Victory by death or incapacitation.

Rounds

Round 1: No prep time. All combatants have no knowledge of each others' abilities.

Round 2: One day of prep. All combatants know about each others' abilities.

Round 3: No prep time. All combatants know about each others' abilities, and are bloodlusted.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yeah, ya can't structure a fight like this chief. You certainly can't composite anything or apply rules like magic being in Doctor Who. Standard Equipment is... well... what the fighters always have lol

 

[Hallowed_Ground_the_Man]

Yeah, ya can't structure a fight like this chief. You certainly can't composite anything or apply rules like magic being in Doctor Who. Standard Equipment is... well... what the fighters always have lol

Why not? Composite means that the character has all feats displayed in canonical media that involves them. If a character has feat A in one medium/canon, but feat B in another medium/canon, then both feats can be used to argue in favor of (or against) that character. In the case of a character like the Doctor, it additionally means that she can replicate what previous (or future) incarnations have done, so long as it is within her means and in-character (for in-character rounds) for her to do so. As for magic, it does exist in Doctor Who, so it is not an invention of mine. The Doctor's profile even states he can resist or otherwise shut off magic passively, so there's some argument that he can interact with magic. Setting the battle in the Mahouka world is also in a sense, a way of getting around the disputes of if magic should apply or not in say, the Whoniverse, because of Time Lords "erasing" it in favor of physics. The point about standard equipment is simply meant to clarify what the characters have for the battle to remove ambiguity on that point.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Why not? Composite means that the character has all feats displayed in canonical media that involves them. If a character has feat A in one medium/canon, but feat B in another medium/canon, then both feats can be used to argue in favor of (or against) that character. In the case of a character like the Doctor, it additionally means that she can replicate what previous (or future) incarnations have done, so long as it is within her means and in-character (for in-character rounds) for her to do so. As for magic, it does exist in Doctor Who, so it is not an invention of mine. The Doctor's profile even states he can resist or otherwise shut off magic passively, so there's some argument that he can interact with magic. Setting the battle in the Mahouka world is also in a sense, a way of getting around the disputes of if magic should apply or not in say, the Whoniverse, because of Time Lords "erasing" it in favor of physics. The point about standard equipment is simply meant to clarify what the characters have for the battle to remove ambiguity on that point.

You answered your own arguments about composting. Separate canons cannot and will not be used on any character.

 

[Hallowed_Ground_the_Man]

You answered your own arguments about composting. Separate canons cannot and will not be used on any character.

Is there an explicit rule against that? Or is it under standard battle assumptions? If the latter, then they don't apply if something explicitly contradicts it. In the case of the Doctor, it's also not really a relevant point, since there's really only one canon, albeit multiple mediums (TV series, books, comics, audio dramas, etc.). Compositing all feats from all incarnations is simply a matter of principle, since all the incarnations are the same person at base. The Thirteenth Doctor is only used because a specific incarnation is necessary for in-character rounds, so we assume her personality applies for said rounds. VS Battle threads featuring the Doctor routinely use feats across all incarnations regardless of which incarnation is featured for the very reason. Because they are all the same person and presumably, can easily replicate what he has done across his lives.

In the case of Tatsuya, his feats are more or less the same across all iterations of his story (which is really only one story, but differing mediums), so if any differences exist, it's more to do with specific nuances. Point is, that point exists to say that you can use a feat from any canonical material to argue for or against a character. That beign said, I'll stick with the composite set-up for this battle since it doesn't really violate the "separate canons" thing (and in fact, an argument can be made that this is not a factor).

 

[DaReaperMan]

Is there an explicit rule against that? Or is it under standard battle assumptions? If the latter, then they don't apply if something explicitly contradicts it. In the case of the Doctor, it's also not really a relevant point, since there's really only one canon, albeit multiple mediums (TV series, books, comics, audio dramas, etc.). Compositing all feats from all incarnations is simply a matter of principle, since all the incarnations are the same person at base. The Thirteenth Doctor is only used because a specific incarantion is necessary for in-character rounds, so we assume her personality applies for said rounds. In the case of Tatsuya, his feats are more or less the same across all iterations of his story (which is really only one story, but differing mediums), so if any differences exist, it's more to do with specific nuances. Point is, that point exists to say that you can use a feat from any canonical material to argue for or against a character.

There is a specific rule against that. You literally cannot make composites under any circumstances.

 

[Hallowed_Ground_the_Man]

There is a specific rule against that. You literally cannot make composites under any circumstances.

Which is fine, since as mentioned, it's not really a relevant factor for this battle. For the Doctor, there isn't really any composite other than using feats from all incarnations (which is routinely done in threads involving him), and for Tatsuya, there's isn't really any difference in what he has done and accomplished in his canon other than minute, if any differences. The point is just to cover bases. That being said, the rule in question seems only to be that threads with composite characters cannot or should not be added to the results section of a character's profile, not an actual prohibition on threads containing them. I see nothing in the rules page against actually creating threads with composite characters (which as mentioned, is a minor to irrelevant factor here). Also, not being able to add the results of a thread to a profile is fine, since most results are not added anyway. More to the point, limiting the Doctor to only feats from the Thirteenth Doctor can be argued to be an express restriction of abilities, according to the rules.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Which is fine, since as mentioned, it's not really a relevant factor for this battle. For the Doctor, there isn't really any composite other than using feats from all incarnations (which is routinely done in threads involving him), and for Tatsuya, there's isn't really any difference in what he has done and accomplished in his canon other than minute, if any differences. The point is just to cover bases. That being said, the rule in question seems only to be that threads with composite characters cannot or should not be added to the results section of a character's profile, not an actual prohibition on threads containing them. More to the point, limiting the Doctor to only feats from the Thirteenth Doctor can be argued to be an express restriction of abilities, according to the rules.

Do please name a profile that's composited. Name one. Outside of using the Anime for the exact same feats to help in calcs there isn't any.

 

[Hallowed_Ground_the_Man]

Do please name a profile that's composited. Name one. Outside of using the Anime for the exact same feats to help in calcs there isn't any.

I don't need to, because I looked through the page and the rules do not explicitly prohibit the creation of such threads. If you say otherwise, please point to the exact prohibition. And I've already stressed multiple times, that this is not a factor in this battle. The way I see it, you are now arguing semantics between "mediums" and "canons". And it is entirely possible for a canon to be told through multiple mediums, as DW is.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I don't need to, because I looked through the page and the rules do not explicitly prohibit the creation of such threads. If you say otherwise, please point to the exact prohibition. And I've already stressed multiple times, that this is not a factor in this battle. The way I see it, you are now arguing semantics between "mediums" and "canons". And it is entirely possible for a canon to be told through multiple mediums, as DW is.

You can only composite a character in fun and games threads, composite characters are completely not allowed otherwise however, as every composite has been deleted because they ain't allowed any more.

 

[Hallowed_Ground_the_Man]

You can only composite a character in fun and games threads, composite characters are completely not allowed otherwise however, as every composite has been deleted because they ain't allowed any more.

All I garner from the rules after reading them multiple times is simply that composite characters are discouraged and results of battles involving them won't likely be added to the character pages. As mentioned, this is not an issue. Also as mentioned, composite characters is not an issue for either combatant in any case. Once again, unless you can highlight direct evidence in the rules, which I've already looked through multiple times, then I'm not inclined to believe you. I also politely ask that you not derail the thread further with this topic of composite characters, whose relevance to this thread is remote, if even any.