"higher with explosives and Skills"
He won't even attempt to parry those. He can maybe block normally but he can't parry projectiles. He'll respond with his own ranged options though.
He can do that plus he can throw down a stamina splash on himself and start just evading the hell out of them. Player evades bows, skills, and guns on a daily basis along with being very accurate with his own ranged options. Plus, it's gonna be a bit harder to hit a constantly moving, agile dude than a giant spamton.
His ap is higher with skills.
Player, again, deals with constant explosions and projectiles on a daily basis so none of it is even phasing player from just dodging and popping a smoke grenade or popping a ghost potion.
No...just no.
Lol. Nothing I said even requires knowledge on the game to say. I just looked at the Fighting Games Power-scaling Standards and Game Mechanics and seen a lot of what Combat Warriors is doing. And I was right anyways.
Wouldn't they say "9-A, higher with Skills"? And I look at the Durability page
It just repeats information? Is the explosions 8-C or 9-A? And "other Players" as in people who are equal to the Matatibi?
Why do they even upscale?
Given that this is a 9-B to 9-A tournament, the 9-A end is assumed here
Not quite. It's only saying that he's possibly 8-C, not actually 8-C. Which is why this is a 9-A tournament.
I'm not sure what you mean.
By phasing I mean it's not gonna bother the player as he's just gonna dodge the projectiles like crazy.
Okay, but, even Kris's own Acrobatics & the SOUL's mobility aside, while the projectiles are traveling, their light would presumably obstruct the view of Kris using Attack & X-Slash, which ignore distance; Ergo, if the high knockback AP advantage barrage of dozens of projectiles doesn't hit, the distance ignoring slashes will, as with a prolonged trail of loud light, it will be more difficult to see or hear when to Parry. Not to mention, Player likely won't be aware of the devastating AP & LS until first struck.
That's not happening. He takes attacks from people alike player and he'll still just continue moving.
The slashes are parryable because they're technically extended melee attacks. Kris will get parried if he tries that and gets immediately paralyzed and comboed. Player will have no trouble when to parry because he dealt with far more chaotic stuff like fighting the matatibi along with 32 other players.
Fair, though, as said, if he, not knowing the AP/LS gap tries to opportunistically take a hit for approach or to get a move in, as some examples, he could experience severe knockback.
How do you figure they're extended, given their ignoring of distance, & the Sword not being where the slashes appear?
he swings and it just hits somewhere else. It's basically a super extended funky melee attack which is parryable.
I think player can hear when the swing is coming by the sound effect right before it comes. He can react to that due to player being able to react to light weapon swings being swung and parrying accordingly right as they're swung.
What do you mean just no? A human will be in greater danger if he gets his throat cut as opposed to say his torso. The neck is naturally more vulnerable than most of the body. It's called common sense.
You're just nitpicking at this point. It's both part of 9-A and 8-C. Profiles from popular verses like One Piece are formatted like this.
You just quoted the justification for them upscaling. You answered your own question.
Why exactly wouldn't it go higher? Nobody claimed that he would shred Kris apart, just that he'll be able to damage them more effectively than with his regular attacks.
Spamming Big Shots creates a loud noise.
Player hears explosions on the daily so loud noises does not stop him from parrying and dodging.
Not extended but just "funky." I get that it ignores distance but it's just that it's a sword slash regardless so it's getting parried.
But a loud noise could drown out the sound of the parrying; If he doesn't hear it, what's his cue?
Assuming he sees/hears when to parry, which Kris has a way to prevent, & SE impedes reactions.
Correction, it is a black hole. Not a black hole that follows real life standards, but it is one. It was added by mistake and no one told me that it wouldn't qualify at all.
It's not really gonna happen if player has Immo type 2. He's not gonna be losing effectiveness because he also has debuffs that he can use against Kris.
I mean Player can roll, jump around, slide, do parkour, do extremely large leaps, and more so I have no idea why theres no justification for acrobatics.
Yeah this ain't no turn based gameplay. He wouldn't care about debuffs. He's still going to pursue.
Immo Type 2 wouldn't block yourself from being drowsy (I'm using a different term since I think tired might be confused here for being tired of fighting after injuries, which Immo Type 2 would indirectly block) Being drowsy is on it's own not an injury. He's got no sleep res, so he'll be affected.
Thought I'd put in some research to figure how exactly a parry works in CW, since that matters more to how I might think the battle would turn out. Turns out it was recently reworked to where the stun doesn't last very long (enough for a player to hit about 2-4 hits in before they get unstunned) and that's if Player is at close range. If Kris is keeping his distance and using his distance ignoring strikes and gets parried, he'll likely get back up before Player can take much advantage.
However even noting this, I don't see how Fighting Game Power-scaling Standards apply here, as CW from what I can see doesn't really have a cohesive story or multiple modes where the canonicity of these events can be scrutinized. As for Game Mechanics, some parts I do think could technically be considered Game Mechanics but the general arguments have at least some merit to them where with some modification it is still worth considering.
Player gets hit with Stamina debuffs with no additional side effects. It likely might minimaly reduce his effectiveness but thats about it.
I played the game the other day and it turns out they reworked it back to how it was before the update however simutaneously the parried takes even more damage if the parry connects.
Their weapon is visible, but not his fists. His fists and his skills can severely damage opponents with one of his skills (supposedly) being an instant kill (although it was tested on a player less than half HP).
Player would likely respond with his own ranged options or try to jump at Kris with his leap slam attack which will stun if it hits.
I think you're proving the point that you might be confused about what's being argued here. This "tired" effect is not a Stamina debuff. It's an effect that makes the enemy more drowsy. Each time the piroutte skill is used, it adds onto that effect, no matter the effect of the skill that the skill randomly selects. This effect would fall under Sleep Manipulation via Sleep Inducement. The Player does not have Sleep Manipulation Resistance, so it's going to affect him, albeit yes minimally at first. But this effect can and will stack with each use of the piroutte skill, which could let the Player be put to sleep, and then because he is asleep, he is incapped. And if that happens, the Player can't take too many hits from Kris, nor would he be able to fight back much against a fling off the edge/into the magma core.
The video I referenced was uploaded after these patch notes, and I don't think the additional damage applies it specifically applies to those who get mythicals (which you explicitly said the Player cannot use, nor would Kris have a mythical weapon for it to activate)I played the game the other day and it turns out they reworked it back to how it was before the update however simutaneously the parried takes even more damage if the parry connects.
Adding on to parry, the stun time might be short, however the stun can be extended by the player kicking Kris over, which is something Player does. The player can also use his various skills like his stab dash to damage kris severely since the Dragon Slayer's stab dash is an instant kill to those equal to player (AP is higher with skills).
True, but it would likely only class as a normal hit to Kris due to his durability. Would have a bit of a cooldown, and could maybe act as a combo starter, but Kris can also likely respond while the Player is doing the skill, so it might be deadly for the Player to do it. I am however curious if the Player would retain invisibility from the Ghost Potion if he activates the skill, as I'm not 100% sure on how it expires.
I don't know much about the Player's other ranged options (that aren't limited) but with the bow, Kris likely both outproduces and overpower those arrows with his shots. And since they're a ranged attack, they can't be parried so except for dodging each shot that could spell doom for him as previously stated.
What I'm noticing is that Kris is just spinning around, but a sitting duck while doing so and pretty vulnerable as well. This ain't really a turn based fight either so Kris will get hit while he's doing his spinning shenanigans.
Player is not using mythicals. He's using regular weapons in his arsenal in which they will hurt more than normal.
Devs likely temporarily added this as a test but removed it right afterward like a day or so. I tested the parry system and it works like it did prior to the parry update.
Player can easily close that gap with a roll, jump, and slide which can be performed in quick succession.
If I recall correctly, his invisibility retains even after using a skill. I think it expires after around 10+ seconds or so, which is more than enough time for players to land some hits in. Plus, nothing is stopping player from quickly pulling out a weapon, slashing kris, and holstering it, as well as going behind Kris. Kris won't see it coming.
He has various ranged options, like a Minigun, a Flamethrower, an AK, an M249, a Tommy Gun, a Spas-12, and most importantly, a BFG that obliterates anything hit
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He's still a bit vulnerable which is enough time for player to land a skill in.
Kris is 3.3x stronger than player.
Player is just as acrobatic with the minigun so keep that in mind. He can keep moving and keep shooting without any overheat.
Corrected thanks
On that note too, I also voted Kris but I'm not on the list.
