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The Boys Season 4 Discussion Thread
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Just saw episode 1.
Gonna be watching it at a slow pace, no spoilers, please. (Although I'll only be checking this thread every so often, similar to how slowly I check this thread.)
Gonna be watching it at a slow pace, no spoilers, please. (Although I'll only be checking this thread every so often, similar to how slowly I check this thread.)
Homelander getting gray hairs & other signs of age is surprising. Guess no longevity for this Superman knock off? Maybe he even ages faster?
Ryan still doing nothing except be conflicted about his family & loyalty to Homelander is frustrating. Maybe if Homelander had the sense to try raising him like Clark Kent; Learn how to use powers in good ways -Help out around the yard, etc.- he might ease up? IDK.
The Boys having to retreat because of Zoey is surprising. I guess when you're a covert group, an unexpected element, even one like that, means regrouping?
What exactly is Homelander & Sister Sage's plan? Like, split apart the citizens to cause trouble while Homelander plays fake hero? Isn't that the same thing he's been doing for several seaons which has been tanking his reputation?
I'm not sure if I feel like Sister Sage is that smart, which, considering it's her whole claim to fame....
It annoys me that Icky Vicky Headpopper is seemingly invulnerable to bullets & acid. Between her being an annoying, evil politician & having a cheap power, is she designed to make audiences want to hate her?
Why did Homelander introduce Sister Sage to the rest of The Seven if all she's done so far is be present for & help instigate a violent riot? (I don't remember her exact role.) Surprised she was able to stay safe despite that.
Surprising that Starlight can APPARENTLY only like, use her powers AND fly at the same time for like, 33 seconds. Why is that? Is she just that inexperienced?
Who was Frenchie kissing around the riot scene, & why?
I wonder if their whole scheme will fail by something like, A Train delivering bodies being on camera footage.
As for Billy Bitcher & his belligerent band of bullet-blasting bang bang blockheads, I don't really care much for them. To me, they feel like a bunch of regular people who'd fit into a mundane action series; I'm more interested in the Superhero stuff, not people that feel like something you'd see in, IDK, James Bond or Fast & the Furious or some other mindless violence with guns series. Nominal protagonists or not.
What does everyone else think of it so far?
Ryan still doing nothing except be conflicted about his family & loyalty to Homelander is frustrating. Maybe if Homelander had the sense to try raising him like Clark Kent; Learn how to use powers in good ways -Help out around the yard, etc.- he might ease up? IDK.
The Boys having to retreat because of Zoey is surprising. I guess when you're a covert group, an unexpected element, even one like that, means regrouping?
What exactly is Homelander & Sister Sage's plan? Like, split apart the citizens to cause trouble while Homelander plays fake hero? Isn't that the same thing he's been doing for several seaons which has been tanking his reputation?
I'm not sure if I feel like Sister Sage is that smart, which, considering it's her whole claim to fame....
It annoys me that Icky Vicky Headpopper is seemingly invulnerable to bullets & acid. Between her being an annoying, evil politician & having a cheap power, is she designed to make audiences want to hate her?
Why did Homelander introduce Sister Sage to the rest of The Seven if all she's done so far is be present for & help instigate a violent riot? (I don't remember her exact role.) Surprised she was able to stay safe despite that.
Surprising that Starlight can APPARENTLY only like, use her powers AND fly at the same time for like, 33 seconds. Why is that? Is she just that inexperienced?
Who was Frenchie kissing around the riot scene, & why?
I wonder if their whole scheme will fail by something like, A Train delivering bodies being on camera footage.
As for Billy Bitcher & his belligerent band of bullet-blasting bang bang blockheads, I don't really care much for them. To me, they feel like a bunch of regular people who'd fit into a mundane action series; I'm more interested in the Superhero stuff, not people that feel like something you'd see in, IDK, James Bond or Fast & the Furious or some other mindless violence with guns series. Nominal protagonists or not.
What does everyone else think of it so far?
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I have watched all the episodes so far, and the latest episode in particular is unbelievably good, the best of the season in my opinion.
In terms of scale, the latest episode showed that Homelander is practically invulnerable (although he feels pain, his skin is not affected) to a super high temperature capable of tearing a human apart in seconds.
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Yeah, so far I wouldn't say any upgrades are coming from this season. But I'm still waiting since I wanted to update the profiles and well, is easier to just update with S4 stuff altogether too lol
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I would have to say this season has been the worst so far, though episode 1 and 4 were good. I still enjoy watching however there are so many branching side plots that are just uninteresting, unimportant, or feel forced. Also a main complaint that I've had with the past three seasons has only gotten worse; that is it's tendency to throw shade at a certain side of the political spectrum. Before you could argue that it made fun of both sides of the spectrum but it has gotten progressively worse with each passing season to the point that now the entire plot of this season revolves around a political war between the two parties, of which only one side is depicted as the evil one. The comedy is still good and Homelander and Butcher's storylines are still great and interesting and I am still overall enjoying this show. But the clear bias and lack of coherent and interesting side plots, plot induced stupidity, and out of character moments is really bringing this one down for me.
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Idk I just feel like everything feels so disjointed, characters are doing basically side quests because the main plot can't move forward yet which is a flaw present in all seasons after season 1. Honestly they should have made The Boys kill more Supes like in the comics or something because almost all side plots are just padding for run time. Hell, I don't know poke fun at the fact The Boys are working for the deep state despite their good intentions or something
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- Firecracker downscales from Starlight since she was completely helpless against her on episode 4.
- According to past trailers The Deep will fight Starlight in a future episode so he'll probably get an upgrade.
- Ryan should have an upgrade, he clearly has superhuman strength as well, I'd put him on 8-B personally but he should be 9-B at the very least.
- We need another key for the new Black Noir.
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1. She hold her own against Kimiko and Annie was mad angry, but yeah, Firecracker should be listed as "At most" or "Likely" from Annie's tier
3. Oh yeah, absolutely. As I said in my previous comment, any upgrades and changes would be posted in a CRT after Season 4 ends. But I do agree that he should at least be 9-B is nothing else.
4. Still featless for the most part, but yeah! Though he should be a different characters, not a key. He is not the same Noir.
As for point 2:
Some leaks that were fairly accurate so far stated that Annir will start having problems with her powers, explaining how Deep would be shown as a threat to her.
Otherwise, it would be a little bit non-sensical in terms of power-scaling imo, but if we have to, we will adapt.
At worst though, he gets some juicy 9-B feats.
Otherwise, it would be a little bit non-sensical in terms of power-scaling imo, but if we have to, we will adapt.
At worst though, he gets some juicy 9-B feats.
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100% agree. While I had liked the Homelander and Butcher stuff, and I actually enjoy Sage and Firecracker, there's no feeling of a plot.
Heck, most of what we expected from S3's ending kinda happened in the first episode, with the boys going for Victoria and Butcher talking about the virus.
