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Kinda unneeded tbh,just a temporary boost,would maybe make the scaling more consistent.
But ill just assume that Butcher is relative to Homelander because it just feels cool.
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But ill just assume that Butcher is relative to Homelander because it just feels cool.
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And the fort harmony point doesn't make sense.
It was used to engineer V1,and I think V was created after.At least after Fort harmony was "erased" from the map.
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V1 is just an iteration of V. They could have created the modern V here and after that moved to the Vought tower.
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No the fort harmony was the V1 testing site,and it was erased from the map after all of the deaths that it caused.V was produced later,and at a different site probably.
Plus in s3-4 Homelander had all the vials of existing V,and more weren't manufactured.
The stan edgar theory makes sense though.
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It doesn't. V1 was the only iteration of V at the time. You have to invent a better iteration first then move.
If I had to guess, v1 is created —> Failed trials with only a few successful attempts —> Modern V is developed via constantly improving V1 —> Fort Harmony is shut down and V becomes the main formula.
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They closed fort harmony after the many deaths that V1 caused,it stopped being a testing site.And it was only a testing site,V was produced in labs,as we see with the Godolkin flashback.
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I thought Fort Harmony was shut down because of Quinn. Otherwise, why would they have left the V1 behind?
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Except we are in 2026 in the show because it use real life dates from some of its events and announcements. Plus Ryan is 12 in S4, so it has to be 2024
So far, finale Butcher scaling to Homelander is an outlier
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What do you mean by that? Are you referring to how Vought makes announcements in our real world?
Katipax
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AI saved Boys
**** AI, and **** you for praising it.
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Idk I think the bombsight loss is an outlier.Butcher was supposedly super strong by his portrayal in the s4 finale.And it was pretty obvious that he was losing the exchanges with homelander until ryan showed up.
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Pipe down man,he was probably being sarcastic,still no reason to be hateful.
Katipax
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AI is harmful, if he's patronising it then sure, why not chill myself down? But if he's encouraging it (as I have seen numerous people do so for the exact same clip), then I stand on what I said.
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Yes, and how it references real life events too.
Plus the mention I did with Ryan's age.
And in S5E4, while under a spore that made them aggressive, Butcher fought Kimiko, and while he had the upperhand, she still put up a fight and hurt him.
And killing Neuman, while impressive, is just an upscale from Kimiko's and Starlight's level.
So out of his 4 main feats, he only has one scaling to Homelander, and one losing to someone close yet inferior to Homelander. Plus he avoided the 1v1 against Homelander and Soldier Boy.
Katipax
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That's just marketing with no bare on the timelime within the show
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Being hateful isn't gonna get us anywhere.
Just_Butchering
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It is supposed to be, but don't get me wrong, the timeline is kinda inconsistent, and whatever makes it work is better for me lmao
Like, yeah, S4's finale should be Jan 2024 via the elections cycles
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Should I praise that original scene then
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Perhaps he will go into Chile, begin there Drug Empire and then try to go back into USA and set its branches here
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just mad and loud at the wrong thing, be mad at the actual product being dogs***, which resulted in the video getting ‘encouragement’ in the first place
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Whats the point in freezing him at the end of the story if theyre not gonna expand on his story then?
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He'd probably be freed in modern day as like "Present Day" segments
Just_Butchering
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Better Rise Vought
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He still outstats her tho. Training for something helps but there's a limit to that kinda stuff. In fact it's probably the reason she held up so well against him.
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Yeah, this aint it, chief. Just because it was filmed in Canada does not mean it's supposed to be there. For example, the scene where Soldier Boy blew up a guy playing Russian music is shot in Canada yet we know that narratively it's in the US.
Plus you did say that most of the series is filmed in Canada despite it being in the US narratively, sooo yeah.
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Just_Butchering
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Butcher was given 12-18 months. In S4 he had 6 months remaining, so either 6 months to a full years passed between S3 and S4. S4 has Butcher almost dying in ep 8, he then recovers and kills Neuman.
Then (according to the scripts) two weeks pass, and we start in January. Given the election cycles, S4 should from 2023 to Jan 2024.
Early 2025*, since as you said, it was one year after S4's finale.
Also, S3 is 1 year after S2.
So it should be more like
Kinda weird anyways.
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Also if Ryan had been training during the time skip explaining why he can keep up with V-One Homelander
With Butcher barely keeping up with Homelander plus actually saying Kimiko leveling up should've made her more durable to wistand her radiation blasts
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ironically Ryan being able to keep up with Homelander Made a lot more sense than Butcher doing so
Just_Butchering
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Nothing showcases or implies that Homelander got stronger with the V-One
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I still think that the showrunners displayed moral fortitude and stayed true to their original vision by ending this show the way they did, and that those who allegedly liked the show in the beginning should complain much less about it.
Yes, real world style satanic evil was dissected and displayed for what it truly is instead of glorified into a "cool" power-trip, but that is something extremely positive in my book. And the ending music was perfect.
I really liked the thematics of the ending in any case, regardless what the relentless horde of algorithm-brainwashed Twitter pawns of Elon Musk (who, among other things, casually caused the deaths of over 14 million poor and starving people between 2025 to 2030 alone, by shutting down U.S.A.I.D., in order to finance tax cuts for billionaires) may think.
Yes, real world style satanic evil was dissected and displayed for what it truly is instead of glorified into a "cool" power-trip, but that is something extremely positive in my book. And the ending music was perfect.
I really liked the thematics of the ending in any case, regardless what the relentless horde of algorithm-brainwashed Twitter pawns of Elon Musk (who, among other things, casually caused the deaths of over 14 million poor and starving people between 2025 to 2030 alone, by shutting down U.S.A.I.D., in order to finance tax cuts for billionaires) may think.
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The main showrunner stated outright that this was always about Trumpism/absolutely corrupt far right extremism and supremacism, so gradually unravelling that by beginning with what it outwardly attempts to present itself as and then showing what it truly is at its core makes good sense to me.
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I didn’t hate the finale. I would’ve been more satisfied though if Homelander had gone on a big rampage before his death
Spinoirr
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Honestly even if Homelander went on a rampage a big epic fight he'd probably target civilians on purpose to distract the person he's fighting to save people because he's a Coward
Plus it'll end the same way, he loses his powers and ends as a pathetic nobody he always was
Plus it'll end the same way, he loses his powers and ends as a pathetic nobody he always was
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