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That bastard killed Noir man
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The Boys discussion thread
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Yeah and ? Even in universe Noir II is a horrible person who gets boners from killing people. And for the show it's far better for the Deep to kill him and become bolder. Deep has been around since season 1, he is fan favorite character because he is funny and Chase Crawford pulls it off perfectly.
Meanwhile Noir II is a rather boring character. His only dynamic is with the Deep, where if he had killed Deep, this character would be pretty pointless going forward. Meanwhile Deep has unresolved dynamic with Homelander, Sage and Ashley. He is far more entertaining to watch.
Meanwhile Noir II is a rather boring character. His only dynamic is with the Deep, where if he had killed Deep, this character would be pretty pointless going forward. Meanwhile Deep has unresolved dynamic with Homelander, Sage and Ashley. He is far more entertaining to watch.
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If sealife is sapient in this universe, does this mean Noir II has the highest kill count in the show?
ShionAH
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She thought the laptop she put would be enough to change SBs mind.
Ser_Hakim_Dayne
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This idiot killed a billion fish just for revenge. It doesn't just piss off The Deep, but also fishermen, the ecosystem, and the economy as a whole.
His death didn't sadden me.
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8 kilotons by doing that btw
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Ah... nvm
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That's the weird part. Whether Soldier Boy hates Homelander or not, she could always use the laptop to anger Soldier Boy. Ashley didn't matter at all.
ShionAH
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She wanted to confirm if she was right about SB and HL I guess
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The Deep seems to be at least somewhat relative to Noir II. Also, would Noir II damaging the pipeline be worth anything feat-wise?
Of all the characters in the show, Noir II deserved it more than most.
And millions or billions more as time passes, given what oil spills do to sea life in general.
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Decent supporting feat, ig.
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Mostly because i saw people complaining about how they could actually win against certain enemies if they just did something ELSE
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What can they even do now
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Kripke wants them to save the VFX budget for the fiftieth supe with some kind of genitalia power.
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Call the Sendokai Warriors, they might be able to win
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Butcher is just trash
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I need butcher to clutch up a bit since the only thing he has done with his V tentacles is split Neumann in half(Good feat given how durable she is) nothing impressive other than that so far(threw a car,crazy am I right?).
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Haven't seen hazbin hotel. So between the Boys and invincible, it's easily Invincible.
Sure the boys has it's dumb moments. Like how Noir could have saved himself by flying. Or Butcher's limited use of his powers.
But oh boy it's not even close to Invincible. Mark consistency loses fights he should have no problem winning, 1000 year old fighters throw the most telegraphed attacks even the most novice fighters would know is stupid and don't even started on tactics.
I could have won the Viltrumite war on both sides with minimum casuality with the tools available.
Sure the boys has it's dumb moments. Like how Noir could have saved himself by flying. Or Butcher's limited use of his powers.
But oh boy it's not even close to Invincible. Mark consistency loses fights he should have no problem winning, 1000 year old fighters throw the most telegraphed attacks even the most novice fighters would know is stupid and don't even started on tactics.
I could have won the Viltrumite war on both sides with minimum casuality with the tools available.
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The game honestly has far better fight portrayals of Viltrumites than the TV series itself.
AthelChan
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battle beast is having fun
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Episode was kinda 50/50 for me. For the first time Sage actually felt smart af given everything was going well for her but then they kinda ruined it with the ending that made her seem not that smart again. I mean cmon she says SB is a wild card in the same episode and we're meant to believe she expected him to act exactly as she planned? Kinda meh.
I also think Butcher and Kimiko are kinda disappointing. Kimiko was like super strong when introduced and it feels like she was turned into a punching bag with the sole purpose of showing us the enemy supe means business, similar to Sam in s2 of GenV. I don't remember her actually doing anything cool since the 3v1 against Stormfront.
Butcher tho? That guy lost most of his aura. His portrayal feels completely inconsistent with his S4 portrayal. S4 showed cancer Butcher as this completely dark god tier supe. Vicky was clearly a high level supe and he just no-diffed her + any time Kessler appeared he just offscreened whatever supe was nearby which made it seem like he might actually stand a chance against Homelander 1v1. But s5 seems like it heavily toned down the "darkness" and reduced him to just another "above Kimiko" level supe. Homelander cutting his tentacles SO easily was a letdown on its own but even Bombsight seemed relatively unbothered.
On the same note Gen V are still nowhere to be seen.
Overall decent episode anyway. I Soldier Boy, Kimiko, Goldie, and Hughie were all really nice. It's just they the "good guys" have been extremely disappointing so far. At the start it seemed like they might not even need the virus. Marie and Sam + cancer Butcher + A-train + an amped up Starlight seemed like a, brutal boost to their power and so far Butcher has been largely disappointing, Starlight did nothing as always, and gen V folks didn't even have screen time yet. Only person who succeeded expectations was A-Train and even that was gone post ep 1.
I also think Butcher and Kimiko are kinda disappointing. Kimiko was like super strong when introduced and it feels like she was turned into a punching bag with the sole purpose of showing us the enemy supe means business, similar to Sam in s2 of GenV. I don't remember her actually doing anything cool since the 3v1 against Stormfront.
Butcher tho? That guy lost most of his aura. His portrayal feels completely inconsistent with his S4 portrayal. S4 showed cancer Butcher as this completely dark god tier supe. Vicky was clearly a high level supe and he just no-diffed her + any time Kessler appeared he just offscreened whatever supe was nearby which made it seem like he might actually stand a chance against Homelander 1v1. But s5 seems like it heavily toned down the "darkness" and reduced him to just another "above Kimiko" level supe. Homelander cutting his tentacles SO easily was a letdown on its own but even Bombsight seemed relatively unbothered.
On the same note Gen V are still nowhere to be seen.
Overall decent episode anyway. I Soldier Boy, Kimiko, Goldie, and Hughie were all really nice. It's just they the "good guys" have been extremely disappointing so far. At the start it seemed like they might not even need the virus. Marie and Sam + cancer Butcher + A-train + an amped up Starlight seemed like a, brutal boost to their power and so far Butcher has been largely disappointing, Starlight did nothing as always, and gen V folks didn't even have screen time yet. Only person who succeeded expectations was A-Train and even that was gone post ep 1.
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Wait why? Its the Top 1 attack of the verse basically
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Stormfront, Vicky, and even both temp V and cancer butcher damn near no-sold the laser. Sure for Vicky you could say he was purposely not going at full power, but with both Stormfront and both Butcher versions it was pretty clearly a direct feat of durability. Homelanders laser was pretty clearly also equally to TempV Butchers and Homelander basically no sold those too.
I also think the balancing is kinda dumb. I'd much prefer Butchers body being vulnerable to the lasers but his tentacles tanking them than the opposite. That way Butcher would be at a constant threat from Homelander lasering him but still not completely outclassed if he manages to block the beams.
ShionAH
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What??
Stormfront got one shot by Ryan’s lasers, which couldn’t pierce Homelander’s skin. Meanwhile his own beams could easily cut through it. He was holding back.
Vicky?? He was trying to show she is a Supe not murder her?? Obviously it didn’t kill her.
Butcher literally got his ass knocked out for like several minutes before he could even move, additionally Homelander thought this was human Butcher so its likely he didn’t go all out.
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however intelligent sister sage is, her ego supersedes it; ashley straight up tells her about the situation with homelander and soldier boy, and she doesn't even take that into consideration in her plan. her showing soldier boy a video of homie and stormfront banging was the best she had to drive a further wedge between them? ight lol cant wait for her "this was apart of my plan" nonsense next week. all in all, better episode than last week, albeit still some dumb sh** throughout. annoying asf bombsight just loses his powers before we even see him do anything, but atleast they finally have a fight where a supe's speed is actually conveyed well. the fact that he just speedblitzed everyone made me smile. also 6-B homelander incoming (not cope)
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He is talking about current Butcher. In s5 ep1 he takes a laser straight from Homelander and just walks it off.
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I’d be fine if he’s squishy but has some busted regeneration
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Finally we'll get planet level homelander with FTL speeds
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Trust me bro, you don't want this. Coming from a fan of a verse who has multiple characters like this
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Huh? There's pretty clearly a difference between Ryan full body sized laser against Stormfront and a regular laser beam.
Also Ryan did burn Homelanders skin in s5 and that was clearly much less bloodlusted than against Stormfront too. It's basically the same damage as what TempV Butcher did to Homelander and he was straight up equal to Homelander in laser power.
The thing is it still did absolutely no damage. For that to happen and Homelanders lasers to still be oneshot above Vicky he'd have to be holding back by like 95%.
Cancer Butcher no-sold the laser when Homelander was fully aware of his supe status and sneaked away. Hell he did it after Homelander already cut through his tentacles.
TempV butcher no-sold them while Homelander didn't know he's a supe, sure, but there's no reason to hold back when he's clearly trying to kill Butcher. What's more is, again, their lasers are clearly equal and physically they were also about equal and Homelander nosold Butchers lasers too. So again by scaling to Homelander TempV butcher also scales to the lasers.
If Butcher can take the lasers there's no reason his tentacles shouldn't
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