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That would imply acceleration is a thing, which actually would down grade everyone to whatever speed he can achieve over the distance of one punch tbh
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The Boys discussion thread
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Shouldn't we assume acceleration is a thing inverse unless it is consistently not abided by. Cuz visually at least it clearly is. Although the implications for powerscaling as a whole would be much larger. It would be too hard to calculate reaction time when factoring in the acceleration of objects as well. Because when we calc combat speed and such we have to assume that said thing has already reached top speed/starts from it's maximum velocity which will give inflated values.
But even then a lot of the statements in the boys such as stillwell's he has no weakness statement can be chalked up to propaganda to railroad supes into the military amongst other things. So stuff like A train outrunning bullets when he was a kid could be false. Although I would question the 1000mph one.
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That would actually make a lot of sense. I still think massively hypersonic and higher sounds crazy. But I think there’s enough to push A-Train, and maybe the other speedsters to supersonic
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If we follow this reasoning we could push it 2 ways. He could reach supersonic speeds in short bursts and starts derating or decelerating after say 100meters -50meters just like a normal human might. However, you could also argue that he can go faster if he has a longer distance to acheive that speed over, like a car.
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Maybe. But it’s unfortunately headcanon either way
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The thing that bugged me is Soldier Boys chase against the Boys in the virus episode. Shouldn't he, like, be able to do super jumps like Sam?
Or could it be that he's strong but his thinking is far more grounded, so he never explored thee all-round physical capabilities despite his powers?
So, he's skilled + strong but that holds him back into a super powered fight?
Well, idk. I just think thats weird.
Also, limited analytical prediction for knowing when and where marathon will run to block his punches and put people in front of him? /s
Or could it be that he's strong but his thinking is far more grounded, so he never explored thee all-round physical capabilities despite his powers?
So, he's skilled + strong but that holds him back into a super powered fight?
Well, idk. I just think thats weird.
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What holds him back is plot. If he did that, he would catch up to them and Butcher doesn't get to use the virus.
Now they could counter this by giving Butcher the same ability (as he is super strong too) or let him move with his tentacles like he is Alex Mercer.
But that means more cgi, wire work and whole logistics stuff.
I don't think it's a matter of budget or ability. Gen V has much better uses of powers on a lower budget.
Just lack of a vision and ambition I suppose.
Now they could counter this by giving Butcher the same ability (as he is super strong too) or let him move with his tentacles like he is Alex Mercer.
But that means more cgi, wire work and whole logistics stuff.
I don't think it's a matter of budget or ability. Gen V has much better uses of powers on a lower budget.
Just lack of a vision and ambition I suppose.
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I feel as if this statement is vague. MM was basically just saying the car isn’t a viable method to escape Noir. Maybe they couldn’t accelerate it as fast as he can accelerate. They’re also limited to a certain degree by their own ability to drive, laws, pedestrians, etc. so I feel superhuman speed is ample to make cars an iffy escape method
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And Sam, who can go faster than cars with his jumps.
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My guy they are murderers, traffic laws hardly matter. Also Noir was on the roof of the other side, more than enough distance for the car to pick up speed.
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Fine, I’ll admit the traffic laws part may not necessarily apply
But first off; at superhuman speeds, he would still reach the car before they did
The specific model of car they had was a 1987 Cadillac Brougham. This car moves between 110 and 115 mph at its top speed, which is subsonic. But this car isn’t a car built for speed. It takes over 10 seconds to reach even 60 mph. I’m sorry, but that is plenty of time for Noir to catch up to them
So this statement alone can’t place Noir at subsonic speeds
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So you do admit he has superhuman speed then ? I never said he is subsonic, just faster than a car.
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Oh that’s all you were saying? Then yeah, I def agree. My bad. Although Queen Maeve at least is on par with him. From running on the wall. They haven’t been accepted yet as far as I know, but she also has a subsonic+ jumping feat
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Colombia mentioned (Or at least the capital city)...and is a DRUGS JOKE AGAIN SON OF A
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Finally, some destruction during the fights of these supposed superhumans. I think I saw a wall being broken so that's a start. Also nice to see Oh Father finally doing something with his powers. Looks like Homelander and Soldier Boy are also gonna beef this episode so well see where that goes.
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I think a good example of how to write characters like Sage is the Limitless franchise, especially when it comes to using enhanced creativity. The writers of The Boys should take notes.
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That either is:
A) Marathon lying to Soldier Biy just to hype up the coke, because he was trying to get on his good side,buttering him up and all that.
B)Or just his travel speed as marathon looks to be able to only run fast since Soldier boy can react to his combat but not his running speeds.
But that would mean that Atrain is faster than his travel speed and a train has equal combat fo travel speeds(Time in a bottle scenes).
Idk the boys is really confusing with travel speed and combat speed.
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Characters are officially wall level now 
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Gotta say, Sister Sage's plan is kinda wack the more I think about it. At bare minimum her bunker should’ve been outside the US. Since 99% of Supes are from the USA, idk how she wouldn’t be caught in the crossfire, let alone avoid infection. The only way I could see it working is if she’s able to immunize herself or can secretly make V1. The writing has been egregious this season.
They could’ve trimmed the filler and given us less episodes but gone out on a high note with a season of hits. I’d rather that than having multiple scenes of dog trying to hump Homelander, and the villains acting dumb. Felt no sympathy for Firecracker, can’t believe she was offered a firing and was dumb enough to try and barter with the guy she knows thinks he’s a god.
They could’ve trimmed the filler and given us less episodes but gone out on a high note with a season of hits. I’d rather that than having multiple scenes of dog trying to hump Homelander, and the villains acting dumb. Felt no sympathy for Firecracker, can’t believe she was offered a firing and was dumb enough to try and barter with the guy she knows thinks he’s a god.
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it makes zero sense; she was already sitting in a room full of books when we first meet her, and even if it's all some big bait and switch like some people are saying, I doubt her real scheme is gonna be that rewarding to find out-- considering every time she does something 'smart' it's just a case of reading the script beforehand, and every time we see her she's just eating or something. probably one of the worst written "smart" characters i've seen in a while. like, she's so smart that her master plan is to absorb a bunch of knowledge that she likely already knows and apply it to nothing. if it's just her there'll be nobody to teach, nobody to bounce ideas off of, so wtf is the point? it's so dumb that it genuinely feels like i'm missing something.
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not the point. everyone in her life treated that intelligence as something wrong with her and treated her worse for being how she was and wants to wipe out humanity so she has the peace of mind she doesn't have to deal with it anymore. Gen V already hinted at this considering they mentioned she could've stopped global warming and cured cancer but simply chooses not to because she doesn't see a point in it. She's literally just wiping everyone out besides herself and be left alone for once.
the plan was not because she wanted more books.
Her plan is to let homelander take over the country, let the virus get released, let supes butcher all of humanity because humans made the virus while they slowly die off from the virus, quarantine in her bunker until it's all over, and be able to have the peace and quiet and not deal with anyone else. Has nothing to do with her wanting more knowledge.
still a stupid plan, but not what you described.
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Well that's still stupid. If she wanted to be left alone, all she needed to do is move to a remote area. Instead of taking massive life threating risks on a plan that hinges on pure luck that the virus doesn't just become completely airborne and us military decides not to slime her. There is no supes vs humanity. The virus takes all of glorious 5 painful seconds to kill any supe who doesn't have V1. Which is only five people.
The moment Homelander is out of the picture, the government will kill everyone related to him to bury the matter, including Sage who has a massive amount of evidence against the government and Vought. She is gonna get a visit from Boeing's employee of the year fy 23-24.
Plus even if America is at war and she somehow escape, pretty much every other country would like to put her brain in jar because one, she is dangerous (According to the story), two, she is useful (according to the story).
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fair, it wasnt necessarily about the books though, i get that she just hates humanity and wants everyone to die so that its just her alone; i meant thats all she does anyway is read (along with eating takeout n shit), so even if she gets her way, its like whats the point? shes not gonna do anything different than what she does now, and then there’s so many issues with her whole ‘secret bunker’ thing.
idk, maybe im overthinking it, i just want good fights from this show, i wouldn’t even care about some side character’s dumb plan if homelander and soldier boy fought like how they’re described atleast ONE time. next episode has more action so we’ll see
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Oh Father can scale to Starlight now. And Bombsight can scale to Soldier Boy. Hella cool
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Well V1 is 10 times more potaint so 10 times
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