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The Black Beast vs Jubileus

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Blackbeast
Summary
The Black Beast is a legendary beast responsible for the calamity and destruction caused before the events of BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger and is one of the major antagonists of the BlazBlue series, in particular to the Six Heroes.

Powers and Stats
Tier: At least 5-A

Name:
The Black Beast

Origin: BlazBlue

Gender: Unknow

Age:
Unknown

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Regenerationn (Mid-Low to Low-Mid), Soul Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation, Can turn into a mist like form to travel underground, Environmental Poisoning, Duplication (Can project remnants of itself that work even if chopped off of its body), Absorption, Immunity to conventional fire, water, earth, wind, light, and darkness-based attacks via existing outside of Logic

Attack Potency: At least Large Planet level (Among the strongest beings of its verse, capable of giving the likes of Hakume a hard time. In one of Ragna's bad endings, in which he lost control of the Black Beast, it destroyed the entire world, though the details of this occurrence are unknown.)

Speed: At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly higher, with Relativistic to FTL reactions/combat speed (Can at least keep up with Hakumen, if not match his speed)

Lifting Strength: Class M+ (By virtue of its size)

Striking Strength: At least Class XKJ

Durability:
At least Large Planet level (Can withstand several nuclear warheads without a scratch; the Six Heroes had trouble keeping it down).

Stamina: Seemingly limitless

Range: Hundreds of metres with melee, higher with energy attacks. Planetary with seithr manipulation.

Standard Equipment: None notable

Intelligence: Unknown (Seemingly kills and destroys without rhyme or reason, yet was able to develop a strategy to outsmart the Take-Mikazuchi)

Weaknesses: People who exist outside of Logic, or that have extremely powerful magic can harm it effectively. Its berserker-like mindset can cloud its judgment.

Jubileus

Summary
The true name of Jubileus, as recorded in myth, is actually constructed from unutterable syllables. This is because humans remain incapable of capturing her true glory, as she is the total embodiment of Divine Will. Humanity, bound to the physical world, was forced to depict and describe her in its own tongue. It is supposed that humanity selected the name Jubileus, taken from the word jubilee, meaning a celebration of rejoicing, in an attempt to turn Divine Will into worldly happiness via repeated recital of His name. As a result of the cataclysmic events of the ancient First Armageddon, of which she sat at the very apex, Jubileus was forced into dominion over the world of Paradiso, governor of the light amongst the Trinity of Realities, and put into an endless slumber. It was from this point that the forces of light and dark began their endless battle for hegemony. The resurrection of Jubileus would trigger a reunification of the Trinity of Realities, fulfilling the desires of not only the forces of light, but also a centuries-old prayer said by those seeking divine intervention.

Powers and Stats
Tier: 5-A

Name:
Jubileus, The Creator

Origin: Bayonetta

Gender: Female

Age: Several thousand years old

Classification: Dea, Ruler of Paradiso

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Type 1), Telekinesis, Portal Creation, Can survive in space, Teleportation via portals, Magic, Reality Warping, Forcefield Creation, Elemental Manipulation, Magma Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Air Manipulation, Weather Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Flight, Can fire missiles, Age Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation, Soul Manipulation

Attack Potency: Large Planet level (Equal to Queen Sheba, who can shatter any planet in the solar system with a punch)

Speed: FTL+ (Was able to cross the solar system in a few minutes)

Lifting Strength: Class T via powerscaling (Should be comparable to Aesir)

Striking Strength: Class XMJ

Durability:
Large Planet level (Survived a long fight with Bayonetta and then being punched by Queen Sheba)

Stamina: Extremely High

Range: Hundreds of meters by virtue of size, Universal with reality warping

Standard Equipment: The Right Eye of the World

Intelligence: Extremely High

Weaknesses: Can only be resurrected using the Eyes of the World, Is significantly weaker using only one Eye of the World, Her ability to reunite the Trinity of Realities may be through reality warping which is unusable for combat

Just thought this would be a fun matchup. Speed equalized, in character, no prior knowledge or prep time. Who wins?

The Black Beast - 5

Jubileus - 2
 
Where does the fight take place? I assume it's inside the orb where we fight Jubileus? Anyway, I give it to Jubileus due to Black Beast having weak soul manipulation, so I doubt it can kill it.

Awesome matchup, though I feel Wyzen from Asura would be even better for either one.

EDIT:Wait can it hurt the BB? IDK if it exists outside of logic
 
The Black Beast due to being immune to most of Jubileus's form of elemental attacks as well as being immune to Event Interferance/Reality Warping due to existing outside of logic (Much like Valkenhayn and Rachel.)

Also the Black Beast Soul Destruction is being a little underestimated Hazama in his absolute weakest form can casually Soul **** the equivalent to a small country and The Black Beast is miles above Hazama dicking around in Continum Shift
 
Op needs to specify where the fight takes place. Are they inside the orb where Bayonetta fought "her" or what?
 
Gargoyle 1 said:
^That doesn't mean BB is Large Planet level with soul destruction.
BB's Soul **** is far more potent than Ragna's who could tear Terumi's Soul out of Susanoo and completely destroyed his Soul with Black Onslaught, Ragna is only a part of the Black Beast true power, both Susanoo and Terumi are at least Large Planet Level or higher on their profiles.

Jubileus's resistance to Soul Manipulation is also VERY questionable since her spirit was destroyed by physical means rather then conceptually (which is why I'm assuming she doesnt have resistance to Soul Manipulation on her Powers/Abilities) since a Soul shouldn't be destroyed by the sun or a collision with a planet since those things don't have Soul Manipulation.
 
Souls in Bayonetta are wierd, and technically every major character has some form of soul hax resistance (I should probably add that to their profiles...). Also, her soul doesnt get destroyed by crashing into planets.
 
SaberLily015 said:
Jubileus's resistance to Soul Manipulation is also VERY questionable since her spirit was destroyed by physical means rather then conceptually (which is why I'm assuming she doesnt have resistance to Soul Manipulation on her Powers/Abilities) since a Soul shouldn't be destroyed by the sun or a collision with a planet since those things don't have Soul Manipulation.
Methusulah can destroy souls by aging them out of existence. Souls in fiction don't always follow the rules of souls as we understand them
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Souls in Bayonetta are wierd, and technically every major character has some form of soul hax resistance (I should probably add that to their profiles...). Also, her soul doesnt get destroyed by crashing into planets.
Can you specify where the fight takes place?
 
BB's Soul **** is far more potent than Ragna's who could tear Terumi's Soul out of Susanoo and completely destroyed his Soul with Black Onslaught, Ragna is only a part of the Black Beast true power, both Susanoo and Terumi are at least Large Planet Level or higher on their profiles.

Jubileus's resistance to Soul Manipulation is also VERY questionable since her spirit was destroyed by physical means rather then conceptually (which is why I'm assuming she doesnt have resistance to Soul Manipulation on her Powers/Abilities) since a Soul shouldn't be destroyed by the sun or a collision with a planet since those things don't have Soul Manipulation.

Jubileus casually shrugged off slamming into Jupiter, which is literally 1,300 times bigger then Earth, scaling up to that is a HUGE assumption
 
Gargoyle 1 said:
BB's Soul **** is far more potent than Ragna's who could tear Terumi's Soul out of Susanoo and completely destroyed his Soul with Black Onslaught, Ragna is only a part of the Black Beast true power, both Susanoo and Terumi are at least Large Planet Level or higher on their profiles.
Jubileus's resistance to Soul Manipulation is also VERY questionable since her spirit was destroyed by physical means rather then conceptually (which is why I'm assuming she doesnt have resistance to Soul Manipulation on her Powers/Abilities) since a Soul shouldn't be destroyed by the sun or a collision with a planet since those things don't have Soul Manipulation.
Jubileus casually shrugged off slamming into Jupiter, which is literally 1,300 times bigger then Earth, scaling up to that is a HUGE assumptio
Not really Izanami stated that at full power she could atomize everything within 400,000 km, comparatively Jupiter is 140,000 km and it wasnt atomized, Susanoo, The Black Beast and Azure Gate Ragna are all stronger then Izanami

Not only that she still doesn't have a single way to harm the Black Beast because it exist outside of logic which in BB gives you immunity to Reality Warping and Elemental Magic, which means she would have to fight it physically but the Black Beast also has intagibility and Regenerationn so good luck with that.
 
How can it be 400,000 KM when the planet is no where near as wide as that?

Also can't Jubileus just make a joke in her orb and BFR it?
 
Gargoyle 1 said:
How can it be 400,000 KM when the planet is no where near as wide as that?
Also can't Jubileus just make a joke in her orb and BFR it?
She was referring to the earth moon system which is roughly 400,000 km


Depends on how the BFR works mechanically most BB characters who were BFR are only done so in a very direct manner (Open Portal and physically put through), but when someone tries to BFR them with reality warping or magic into another dimension most can simply ignore it (such as Hakumen ignoring Kokonoe's attempt to BFR him) Azrael also tore himself out of a dimensional BFR through pure physical strength and him and The Black Beast are AT LEAST on par (BB most likely being stronger) with each other (In Azraels act two ending his wish is to fight a worthy opponent and the only one presentable is The Black Beast)
 
Yeah that's how BFR in BAyonetta works, they liteally open a portal to Paradiso/Inferno and angels/demons pull them through
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Yeah that's how BFR in BAyonetta works, they liteally open a portal to Paradiso/Inferno and angels/demons pull them through
Is there away around the BB intagibility to pull it in though? Plus given the Az feat it could probably still tear out of Inferno/Paradiso.
 
Intangibility in what way? It can easily pull Jeans soul into inferno, and Jean in Bayonetta 2 is stronger then Jubileus.

Also that sounds ridiculous that the system is 50x larger then earth itself
 
Gargoyle 1 said:
Intangibility in what way? It can easily pull Jeans soul into inferno, and Jean in Bayonetta 2 is stronger then Jubileus.
Also that sounds ridiculous that the system is 50x larger then earth itself
It turns into Seither which when turned into a mist can't be physically interacted with unless you have a way to clump it together, on the level of the Soul and Body contact with extreme amounts causes deteriation of both and madnesss until death.

Even the Azure Grimoire a small portion of the Black Beast itself when used causes ruptures and deteriation in other realities because of this effect

There is also the fact that it passively spawns Remains the most powerful of which can even fight on par with Hakume and the other Six Heroes so you would have a pretty damn strong army between you and the Black Beast. [One of them actually manages to nearly beat Jubei in Phase 0]

Also the Black Beast doesnt have a traditional "Soul" the Black Beast is made up of two compenents the "Body" (Ragna and his Grimoire) and the "Heart" (Nu 13 and her Grimoire) and can seemingly function fine without one or the other (As for example Ragna is ejected at some point and the Beast is still normally functioning even without its "body") there are also feats for Nu-13's soul being extra powerful anyway since it survived the Boundry (A space were all information meets and is primarly made up of seither) this is a similar feat to Hakuman who's Soul was described like a White Dwarf Star on Earth by Arakune.

The Earth Moon system is just the Earth and the space the moon orbits around whihc is rounded up 400,000 km away from earth here is her saying it anyway.
Izanami 400000
 
Christ this is why I hate BBs story.

Anyway yeah, BB wins this unless Jubileus creates a hole sucking it into space. Which we don't know because OP didn't specify the arena.
 
Can Jubileus hit the Black Beast while it's intangible due to it turning into mist? Also, while Jubileus has soul manipulation, does it have enough soul resistance to resist the soul hax of the Black Beast? The Black Beast has enough soul hax to cover an entire planet with it at least. The Black Beast can also duplicate it's remnants to attack Jubileus with the same force. Jubelius' elemental attacks won't do anything to the Black Beast due to it existing outside of reason and logic. I also don't think Jubileus has resistance to Darkness Manipulation, which the Black Beast has.

Jubileus however has teleporting that will give the Black Beast trouble trying to land a hit and it has magic so it can harm the Black Beast. But overall, I think the Black Beast would win because I don't think Jubileus has an answer to the Black Beast's soul hax or a defense against darkness manipulation.
 
Zeldasmash said:
Can Jubileus hit the Black Beast while it's intangible due to it turning into mist? Also, while Jubileus has soul manipulation, does it have enough soul resistance to resist the soul hax of the Black Beast? The Black Beast has enough soul hax to cover an entire planet with it at least. The Black Beast can also duplicate it's remnants to attack Jubileus with the same force. Jubelius' elemental attacks won't do anything to the Black Beast due to it existing outside of reason and logic. I also don't think Jubileus has resistance to Darkness Manipulation, which the Black Beast has.

Jubileus however has teleporting that will give the Black Beast trouble trying to land a hit and it has magic so it can harm the Black Beast. But overall, I think the Black Beast would win because I don't think Jubileus has an answer to the Black Beast's soul hax or a defense against darkness manipulation.
They're both Large Planet level so yes she does.

Jubileus can't teleport unless she's summoned, however the only way for her to win is to BFR Black Beast.
 
I belive the BB have 4 votes "ZERO , Sparda , Zelda , saberlily "

Jubiles have 2 : "Monrach - Gargo "
 
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