the beyonders vs the Downstreamers

[Dlaek66669]

both use 1B rating

Both team have 10 Years of prep

bloodlusted

 

[Promestein]

As if 10 years of prep matters to 1-B beings

 

[Sandman31]

Prep is irrelevant, Downstreamers are omniscient and knows everything that's going to happen down to the quantum level so whatever the Beyonder is planning DS already knows about it. Beyonder isnt omniscient and only nigh omniscient and have to learn everything by experience.There's no weakness for The Downstreamers for Beyonder to use against them while the Downstreamers already knew Beyonders weakness(due to their omniscience) like when weaker characters were able to stole his powers(Doom) or when he got overloaded by energy (Rachel Summers phoenix, the Beyonder gave her power but she still surpised him and manage to knock him out even if the Beyonder resisted) or when Puma is in perfect harmony with the universe.It also doeant help that DS are borderline 1-A (Atleast 1-B possibly 1-A).I vote DS

 

[Jockey-1337]

Downstreamers stomp.

1) Beyonders have tons of limits and weaknesses, they may be killed even by mortals

2) Downstreamers have better feats. They created ultimate manifold which includes not only infinite dimensional space but all other logical and mathematical levels of existence. They are level 4 multiversal whereas the Beyonders are level 3 ones.

https://psv4.userapi.com/c812724/u3...T9z2LZa7nqDz1HIjp3GNNeF65jW9b6TpvjSWUJRpA56Yg

https://pp.userapi.com/c837127/v837127589/3e378/DKzXdYkCaL0.jpg


https://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0302131v1.pdf

 

[The_Everlasting]

"Beyonders have tons of limits and weaknesses, they may be killed even by mortals"

That's completely meaningless.

"Downstreamers have better feats. They created ultimate manifold which includes not only infinite dimensional space but all other logical and mathematical levels of existence. They are level 4 multiversal whereas the Beyonders are level 3 ones."

No. They're both High 1-B. There's no "stronger" with this tier without powerscaling.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

But Beyonder is Omnipot.... [ gets shot millions of times in all conceivable directions . ]

All joking aside, I agree with Ever. However, that is not the concern right now. The Downstreamer's win. They are actually far stronger in the High 1-B scale than The Beyonders are. And due to their omniscience , they can know everything about Beyonder ( if it is verse equalized ) . And , most of their abilities can keep the poor group of higher-dimendionals at bay. Downstreamers for low-difficulty, considering they are probably/likely the strongest High 1-B's on this site.

 

[Zensum]

Downstreamers stomp the beyonder race but may loose the pre recton

 

[Sandman31]

Uhh is this the race I thought its pre retcon Beyonder lol I still vote DS low difficulty

 

[ToAruFan]

I think Jockey has a point here.

A type 4 multiverse should be above a type 3 multiverse even with dimensional tiering included.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

^ Like I asked before , how come the possibly 1-A part was removed. Especially if Down streamers are level 4 , whereas mentioned in above PDF, level 2 holds all possible dimensions ? Not saying we upgrade to 1-A [ Even though I am somewhat implying as such ] , it is simply a request for clarification.

 

[AndrewBennet]

Downstreamers solos Marvel high 1bs

 

[Jockey-1337]

Downstreamers stomp the beyonder race but may loose the pre recto

No. Currently they are beating PRB as well.

 

[Zensum]

No. Currently they are beating PRB as well.

I disagree, but its a close match

 

[Jockey-1337]

No. Currently they are beating PRB as well.

I disagree, but its a close match

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