The Beginning After The End revisions: Aether

[Testarossa002]

Back after a brief break.
This is a thread to properly analyze the second (and more powerful) energy system in TBATE.
Credits to @Korf3ll . They did the heavy lifting for this thread. I just added bits and pieces to make it whole.
Before we go any further, I'm going to point out that I'm not knowledgeable on the exotic abilities listed here. If I get something wrong, just correct me.

Spoiler: Nature of Aether

What is Aether?​

Aether is the concentrated magical energy left behind by a living being upon death. It consists of the consciousness of the deceased and retains traces of their intentions.

The Edicts of Aether​

Aether is composed of three fundamental components:

• Space
• Time
• Existence (encompassing death, creation, and destruction)

The Nature of Aether​

Aether as an Abstract Force​

Aether is inherently abstract in nature.

Aether as a Concept​

Beyond its abstract nature, Aether governs every aspect of reality.

Aether as Information​

Aether embodies the collective consciousness of all beings that have ever lived. This shared consciousness serves as the fundamental building block of reality 1 2 3 4

Aether as a Reality-Warping Force​

Even the slightest manipulation of Aether can alter the very fabric of reality.

The Dual Nature of Aether​

Aether exists both before life and after death. It is both space and emptiness, embodying infinite and boundless time.

Aether as a Fundamental Law​

Aether is the governing law that upholds all of existence.

Abilities Granted by Aether​

• Abstract Existence (Type 1; Aether is inherently abstract.)
• Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2 – Space, Time, and Existence; In addition to being abstract, Aether governs all aspects of reality)
• Information Manipulation (Type 2; Aether consists of the collective knowledge, memories, and awareness of every being that has ever lived, forming the very foundation of reality)
• Law Manipulation (Aether serves as the fundamental law that maintains the structure of reality)
• Reality Warping (Merely influencing Aether is enough to warp the fabric of reality)

There would be a Verse Specific page showing all this. It won't be published now as it doesn't meet the five character requirements for VSPA. Here's a draft of it.
How would it be indexed?
Using Kezess as an example. He has these aether based abilities:

Time Manipulation with Static Void (Can stop time), Spatial Manipulation and BFR (Can easily teleport those around him to wherever he wishes)

His Time-stop would be treated as concept, law, reality manip based hax. Same with his Spatial Manipulation.

That's all

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

Can runes also qualify for info type 2?,since they symbolize an aspect of ether
Agreed

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

It doesn't qualify for IM 2, SInce it's in no way shape, or form proving that its "information" is a fundamental aspect, not to mention this

The golden threads pulsed with an angry light. “Aether is the concentrated magical energy left behind by a living being when they pass on.” “And it…carries some sense of their intention,” I added, the pieces falling into place in my mind. “Aether is aware and can be influenced…because it was once alive.” Tears shone in my bond’s eyes. “That is why it remembers the shapes it has taken before. Entire civilizations of the dead. Others besides the djinn must have reached a stage where they could utilize aether. The spellforms…are the echo of their collective consciousness bonded into living magic.”

The description of the scan is deceiving.

Yeah, there is no IM 2, in this.

 

[Korf3ll]

Back after a brief break.
This is a thread to properly analyze the second (and more powerful) energy system in TBATE.
Credits to @Korf3ll . They did the heavy lifting for this thread. I just added bits and pieces to make it whole.
Before we go any further, I'm going to point out that I'm not knowledgeable on the exotic abilities listed here. If I get something wrong, just correct me.

Spoiler: Nature of Aether

What is Aether?​

Aether is the concentrated magical energy left behind by a living being upon death. It consists of the consciousness of the deceased and retains traces of their intentions.

The Edicts of Aether​

Aether is composed of three fundamental components:

• Space
• Time
• Existence (encompassing death, creation, and destruction)

The Nature of Aether​

Aether as an Abstract Force​

Aether is inherently abstract in nature.

Aether as a Concept​

Beyond its abstract nature, Aether governs every aspect of reality.

Aether as Information​

Aether embodies the collective consciousness of all beings that have ever lived. This shared consciousness serves as the fundamental building block of reality 1 2 3 4

Aether as a Reality-Warping Force​

Even the slightest manipulation of Aether can alter the very fabric of reality.

The Dual Nature of Aether​

Aether exists both before life and after death. It is both space and emptiness, embodying infinite and boundless time.

Aether as a Fundamental Law​

Aether is the governing law that upholds all of existence.

Abilities Granted by Aether​

There would be a Verse Specific page showing all this. It won't be published now as it doesn't meet the five character requirements for VSPA. Here's a draft of it.
How would it be indexed?
Using Kezess as an example. He has these aether based abilities:

His Time-stop would be treated as concept, info, law, reality manip based hax. Same with his Spatial Manipulation.

That's all

W post i agree on almost everything (obviously) just idk for info type 2 i don't know this hax very well

 

[Korf3ll]

Back after a brief break.
This is a thread to properly analyze the second (and more powerful) energy system in TBATE.
Credits to @Korf3ll . They did the heavy lifting for this thread. I just added bits and pieces to make it whole.
Before we go any further, I'm going to point out that I'm not knowledgeable on the exotic abilities listed here. If I get something wrong, just correct me.

Spoiler: Nature of Aether

What is Aether?​

Aether is the concentrated magical energy left behind by a living being upon death. It consists of the consciousness of the deceased and retains traces of their intentions.

The Edicts of Aether​

Aether is composed of three fundamental components:

• Space
• Time
• Existence (encompassing death, creation, and destruction)

The Nature of Aether​

Aether as an Abstract Force​

Aether is inherently abstract in nature.

Aether as a Concept​

Beyond its abstract nature, Aether governs every aspect of reality.

Aether as Information​

Aether embodies the collective consciousness of all beings that have ever lived. This shared consciousness serves as the fundamental building block of reality 1 2 3 4

Aether as a Reality-Warping Force​

Even the slightest manipulation of Aether can alter the very fabric of reality.

The Dual Nature of Aether​

Aether exists both before life and after death. It is both space and emptiness, embodying infinite and boundless time.

Aether as a Fundamental Law​

Aether is the governing law that upholds all of existence.

Abilities Granted by Aether​

There would be a Verse Specific page showing all this. It won't be published now as it doesn't meet the five character requirements for VSPA. Here's a draft of it.
How would it be indexed?
Using Kezess as an example. He has these aether based abilities:

His Time-stop would be treated as concept, info, law, reality manip based hax. Same with his Spatial Manipulation.

That's all

Also for abstract existence, idk if it's usefull because if Aether is already a concept and a law it's already abstract and this hax is applicable only on character and nor on energy. To give an exemple, if we take Edict of Fate "mouth" he could've this hax (AE 1) because he is make in aether. If we take Arthur's godstep godrune when he use it he is himself aether in aether path so he could've AE 1 when he use it.

 

[BreezeHM]

Everything excluding Information Manipulation looks fine. Darksoul said it well as to why it wouldn’t qualify.

The only thing I'm against is Abstract Existence. Abilities really shouldn't qualify for Abstract Existence because

Abstract Existence is the ability to embody an abstraction, such as a concept, thought, or information, and being immortal thanks to it. This power has a variety of uses, ranging from a high degree of control over the abstraction and its manifestations, the aforementioned immortality, or even being unaffected by abilities that can't target the abstraction.

Abilities that are abstract are just Conceptual Manipulation (depending on context) or Subjective Reality.

Aether is fine just as CM and Law

 

[Testarossa002]

Thanks for all the input
Like I said, I'm not really knowledgeable on these things
I added IM because DT said it should qualify for it

https://vsbattles.com/profile-posts/102195/

Although, that was before I added more stuffs to the page
I'm also fine with removing AE

 

[Deceived3596]

I was asked to evaluate this thread. I'll check this out whenever I have the time.

 

[Testarossa002]

I was asked to evaluate this thread. I'll check this out whenever I have the time.

Bump

 

[Deceived3596]

After reviewing the evidence, I'm fine with how the OP currently is. I don't see anything I disagree with that isn't already scratched out.

 

[SODAKU]

I agree with the current proposal

 

[Nierre]

looks okay

 

[Testarossa002]

Bump

 

[Damage3245]

Seems to be okay.

 

[Testarossa002]

Thank you
Like I mentioned in the OP, there would be a VSPA page for it as soon as more pages are created (only Arthur and Kezees qualify currently). Hopefully, I should push them out in the next few weeks. For now, this thread will suffice as a reference.
This thread can now be closed
Thank you, everyone