Finally getting around to this
This reads less mind and more memory to me, given the scan
itself pointing out how the spiritual body a)records and keeps thoughts captive and b)is a virtual memory, in addition to the fact that it doesn't itself generate thoughts
This reads as mind to me (though still fundamental), and I don't see what exactly implies the name of the substance here is aether, rather than the technique being named such. In actuality, what seems to compose the astral body are magicules, and its being interfered with, as shown in the scans, is what gets rid of the astral body
Something I will ask, though, is how all this applies to humans? Seeing as basically every scan here applies to monsters, and the scans themselves point out how their composition is generally made of/founded by magicules to a far more obscene degree than humans, so I'm wondering what exactly the Astral Body of Humanity is made of, though it's entirely plausible such a topic isn't touched on, but it can't exactly be magicules considering
this scan
Conclusion: The Astral Body is the fundamental aspect beyond the mind, separated from the Mind and Soul, completely independent of lesser fundamental aspects such as the Spiritual Body and Physical Body. It is classified as Aether, and it defines the existence of a person insofar as that they cannot exist without it (excluding those with the ability to regenerate the Astral Body, of course).
This is distinctively wrong, though
Considering the previous CRT I thought you would have mentioned the Thought Body being an alt name for the soul here
Please don't use that as a scan for magicules being conceptual, please, I beg. This isn't conceptual as in universal, this is conceptual as in idea/blueprint/thought/whatever else.
Huh, did just notice
this scan (the second one) either says or implies factors either are or are made up of information particles, neat, do with that what you will
Still disagree with using
this scan as anything related to factors btw, the veldora scans seem to distinctly be tied to the ego seeing the mention of wavelength, and I already stated my gripes with using the magic aura for factor stuff
Anyways, to help with independence arguments, you can use
this scan, wherein everything below the soul is erased by the removal of factors but the soul is just fine
I'm still of the opinion that spirits are in one way or another pure souls, though, and that everything below it is in effect an avatar (tempted to strikethrough this)
I get why you had to do it, but also seeing the same scan twice as the opening was funny
This should be a link to a scan of the underworld being made of info, not to a verse page
Seems less fictional and more mental
I mean, yes, but I dislike this wording, read to me like a moment that the particles were derived from Temporal Elements for a moment
being "smaller" than even Photons[27] (Particles that have 0 physical mass)[General Information 1]
I do not think one needs to provide a citation on photons being massless
one's Self[General Information 2].
I would genuinely hope one would not need a citation on what the self is, considering we are all living beings with self-awareness
Would you not use this scan as a scan for will existing as a component of the Ego, seeing as it doesn't even mention the thing (and implies it only exists on the level of the soul, but that's potentially due to lack of knowledge)
Though honestly reading through this I'm, deeply confused and concerned
Meanwhile, the Will is simply their desire to survive, to live[57]. If their spirit breaks and that desire disappears at the same time as their Ego (Self), it's game over for them; they can't regenerate resurrect through ANY mean, even if the Soul and physical body is present[2]. Though if their will is destroyed but their Self isn't[58], they can survive and recover, although they will submit to the opponent and follow order[13].
I gave a plain version because I'm not fighting the citations for a moment
But first of all, none of these scans require the existence of will here, in fact most of the scans here seem to come from before the characters properly knew about the existence of the aspects beyond the existence of the soul, and the usages of will here while not figurative, surely aren't as literal as one would want for will to be a part of the ego
The first scan implies, to a degree, that Veldora actually lacks a will, seeing as Raphael can't use him as a source and has to instead use demons, who are incarnations of desire (which itself has implications), and if Raphael was actually using them for their will, this should outright erase them beyond any ability of their own to come back, which seems discongruent a later scan that points out that the demons themselves were happy to do such, which considering they apparently had enough will to live, seems mildly wack that they would perma kill themselves
The second is actually the closest to providing the idea that the will is part of the ego
The third and fourth are the weakest pieces of evidence here and speak to actions that could be reduced to physical explanation rather than metaphysical foundation, unless there is context missing.
As it is Ego currently just seems like a pure Cogitio Ergo Sum and not much to do with willpower, or said willpower is just one and the same with that Cogitio
Do note that a Skill is a representation of the user's own mind[63], a shape of their Willpower[64], so the "Law"[35] is also the user's own Law that they forced/added upon the world.
Skills are, in a sense, a Law themselves
Well, no, this doesn't read like that at all, it reads like skills are particularizations of the laws that allow one who has them to harness them for whatever use, not that they or the skills themselves are the source of the law
the Skill (along with the user's ego residing in it) that remains revives its own user, even if they are killed[62] by an attack that erases the target completely, from physical body to even the Heart Core[66] (Disintegration)
This reads contradictory to the explanation given about Disintegration (in that it destroys skills), though that seems to just be a contradiction in verse than just out of verse
Note that all this only applies to Unique Skills and above, and even then, only those that have an Ego. As for the aspect, since we know that the part of the Skill that remains is a Law, subset of the World-Law, it means it's equivalent to
Attributes (
Concepts [
Type 1]
& Law), which as already established on the Cosmology Page govern quite literally all things in the world, including information itself.
Well I disagree for my aforementioned reasons (skills seem to be particulars of the attributes and allow one to manipulate such, but are not these things in of themselves)
Conclusion: The World-Law aspect of
Unique Skills and above are a person's
Concept (
Type 1) aspect that is above the Heart Core in terms of fundamental-ness.
Also disagree, it does not read to be above the heart core but instead parallel to the heart core, skills are engraved onto such but they the reason why they survive has less to do with them being more fundamental, but them simply not being dependent on it, and instead, as I said, parallel, they may allow one to act in ways that mimic such a relationship, but to me it'd be like saying someone's clone body in another universe is more fundamental than their body in the main universe just cause the former allows them to recreate the latter if it dies.
