Talion's 7-A...

[Axxtentacle]

Well, to put it simply, Talion's 7-A is based on a cloud calc that is purely about Sauron creating/moving a storm via unknown means.

Lord of the Rings Calc: A Storm is Brewing

vsbattles.fandom.com

This is the calc.

The only other 7-A justification is the Nazgul collectively creating an Earthquake. There is no calc or linked feat.

"(Can battle Talion for a short period of time. Eight of them were able to create an earthquake of this magnitude)"

In short, 7-A for the Shadow Of games is nuked entirely. It's gone.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Well....
That's Unfortunate....

 

[Axxtentacle]

bumpo

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So are they just staying at 8-A Now and just Upscaling from that continuously?

 

[Axxtentacle]

Yeah. Unless anyone has any other feats above 8-A, it'll just be a bunch of scaling chains with big power cliffs.

 

[Axxtentacle]

bump?

 

[Shmooply]

Expected, but still a bummer. I agree.

 

[Armorchompy]

this seems right.

 

[Axxtentacle]

bump

 

[Schwxnz]

Isn't the 8-A calc wack too? I very vaguely recall that someone mentioned that the feat shouldn't have been calc'd as a Earthquake or something like that

 

[Keeweed]

Earthquake feats like the 8-A one Talion scales to got nuked a while ago, so 8-A is also gone.

 

[Hellbeast]

this reminds me I was planning to downgrade them further (damn thread didn’t get archived so it was a necro apparently)

Basically the 8-A is invalid because it assumes an earthquake when that’s not what we’re seeing and it’s much higher then the other stuff

Graig’s do have a Building Level+ feat (about 2 tons) and there’s tons of feats like Talion smashing apart large stones and parts of fortress walls

This continues with Shadow of war bjt be also gets to destroy large statues

Sauron has a Low 7-B feat but it’s seemingly limited to ED thanks to him causing mount doom to erupt and his potentially creating a storm in the fight with Celebrimbor in the second game

I’ll find feats later (just on mobile Rn) but we’re looking at Tier 8 (it depends on the calcs tho)

 

[Schwxnz]

bump

 

[Axxtentacle]

Bump

Why were earthquakes nuked? Can someone give me a quick rundown?

 

[Hellbeast]

I think it’s because shaking doesn’t necessarily imply it’s a true earthquake

 

[Axxtentacle]

I think it’s because shaking doesn’t necessarily imply it’s a true earthquake

What the? That sounds... weird.

 

[Keeweed]

It makes more sense if you saw the downgrade thread. Pretty much Earthquakes get good results because they are multiple miles in size. A place relatively close the cause the of the shaking doesn’t prove or support that shaking being comparable to an Earthquake at all.

 

[Axxtentacle]

OH. Ok, I see.

 

[Axxtentacle]

Ok, well, the only feats I can think of for Talion himself are him destroying the statues with hammers and arrows and stuff. Probably only tier 9, but that's fine. Unless anybody else has any other feats.

 

[Hellbeast]

Actually that might be Tier 8 considering Talion is 6:6 and it's pulverizing it.
Graugs have 8-C+ though which at least applies to his Shadow of War counterpart

 

[Axxtentacle]

Graugs are still normal graugs, so i'd imagine it applies to the first game's graugs as well.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.