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Suhyeon Kim (Key: Unite Gangbuk)
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Dowan Ha (Key: Beginning of Season 2)


Rule:
  • Speed is equalized.
  • Both start 50 meters apart.
  • Dowan Ha Mode: Choi Sun-Jae's Earrings



Suhyeon Kim:

Dowan Ha:

Inconclusive:


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If speed is equalized, do amps/debuffs work from both sides? (i.e., Suhyeon buffing speed stats or Dowan using Falcon Revolve to get the attack speed of the skill). Actually, since we don't know the exact speed buff percentage they get, I'll just assume it's comparable for both (I'll also assume the earrings don't have a time limit). So I'll just look at their AP, strength, skills, and abilities. I've thought about this matchup multiple times, so here is my belief.

For AP, Dowan (Sunjae Earrings) are relatively easy to find (i.e., at least 130 MJ). Suhyeon (Unite Gangbuk Key) is much harder to find his AP, considering there is no concrete feat or direct scaling. I don't believe that he has the same AP as Vasco, but basically, Suhyeon's AP ranges from 5 MJ [definitely way higher since that was UR+ stats] to likely less than 160 MJ. Due to the unreliability of finding Suhyeon's exact AP, I need to give it to Dowan (Sunjae Earrings). For strength, Dowan (Class M) severely outmatches Suhyeon (likely Class 25) in the strength field, so any holding or grappling will be a disadvantage to Suhyeon. For BIQ, looking at both pages, it seems Dowan's Combat IQ is acknowledged to be slightly better, though I don't think the difference is big enough to contribute to changing the end result. Dowan with Sunjae earrings also has his redirecting skills, which can be useful too.

Suhyeon has a variety of debuff and buffing abilities, but since Dowan has Circulation of Light (nullifies all abnormal conditions immediately, so debuffs are likely not to work). So Suhyeon will need to focus on using self-buff and attack abilities. I believe Suhyeon's best combination of cards to win would be Loading Jigen-Ryu + Invincible Wrestler + The Weakest Link (I believe in most scenarios, Dowan will still have higher AP, Endurance, and Strength), using True Yetbeop Taekyeon + Beast Mode Weasel (though I don't believe it'll be a huge boost at this point). Since boost cards don't provide as big of a boost at this point in Suhyeon's story, it might just be enough to match Dowan's AP and Strength. Looking at his Unite Gangbuk key, I believe Suhyeon doesn't have A Quiet Strength, so that's a trump card he sadly won't have. He still has his 500kg+ card, though it might not matter due to Dowan's strength, he has adomitable to tank 3 attacks, berzerk mode to ignore pain, healing peach to restore his health, and uncool to maybe try a different set of load cards

For Dowan's abilities, he doesn't have any buff skills, but his active skills allow him to fight in an unorthodox way. Falcon Revolve gives him a crazy boost in attack speed, which will likely always land due to the severe speed the attack has. Booster should allow Dowan to match the increase in speed Suhyeon can get with his own cards during its 30 seconds. However, most of his skills aren't going to be that big of a difference besides Charge Shot. Though the exact boost of Charge Shot is unknown, it appears to be big enough to allow Dowan to struggle with a Representative to easily beat them, so it appears to be significant. However, I believe another Charge Shot effect that shouldn't be ignored is that it is undodgeable, so if Suhyeon messes up once, Charge Shot will damage him significantly, especially since Dowan is already likely to have higher AP. Plus, any critical hit due to Dowan's passive will deal a significant amount of damage to Suhyeon as it targets internal damage (organs, etc), and Suhyeon hasn't shown great resistance to his own verse critical hits, so internal damage attacks will be very dangerous. Since this is the Beginning of Season 2 key, he doesn't have "Make a blind spot," so that'll be ignored.

Final Result: I believe if Dowan (Sunjae) [Beginning of Season 2 key] and Suhyeon [Unite Gangbuk Key] were to repeatedly fight, Dowan would win most of these matches. Though Suhyeon has more versatile abilities, self-buffs, and healing, due to the AP and Strength gap [since speed is equalized]. Having no exact win con, Suhyeon will need to rely on outlasting Dowan through his various tanking and healing abilities, which will be tough as Dowan can use Charge Shot (even level 1 and 2 will be hard to tank), and any critical hit Dowan lands will prove to be even more fatal. Plus, with the earrings giving Dowan some redirection skills, it'll make it even tougher to outlast him. Plus, due to the massive strength gap, Dowan could just hold/pin Suhyeon down a lot, giving him more chances to win.
 
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If speed is equalized, do amps/debuffs work from both sides? (i.e., Suhyeon buffing speed stats or Dowan using Falcon Revolve to get the attack speed of the skill). Actually, since we don't know the exact speed buff percentage they get, I'll just assume it's comparable for both (I'll also assume the earrings don't have a time limit). So I'll just look at their AP, strength, skills, and abilities. I've thought about this matchup multiple times, so here is my belief.

For AP, Dowan (Sunjae Earrings) are relatively easy to find (i.e., at least 130 MJ). Suhyeon (Unite Gangbuk Key) is much harder to find his AP, considering there is no concrete feat or direct scaling. I don't believe that he has the same AP as Vasco, but basically, Suhyeon's AP ranges from 5 MJ [definitely way higher since that was UR+ stats] to likely less than 160 MJ. Due to the unreliability of finding Suhyeon's exact AP, I need to give it to Dowan (Sunjae Earrings). For strength, Dowan (Class M) severely outmatches Suhyeon (likely Class 25) in the strength field, so any holding or grappling will be a disadvantage to Suhyeon. For BIQ, looking at both pages, it seems Dowan's Combat IQ is acknowledged to be slightly better, though I don't think the difference is big enough to contribute to changing the end result. Dowan with Sunjae earrings also has his redirecting skills, which can be useful too.

Suhyeon has a variety of debuff and buffing abilities, but since Dowan has Circulation of Light (nullifies all abnormal conditions immediately, so debuffs are likely not to work). So Suhyeon will need to focus on using self-buff and attack abilities. I believe Suhyeon's best combination of cards to win would be Loading Jigen-Ryu + Invincible Wrestler + The Weakest Link (I believe in most scenarios, Dowan will still have higher AP, Endurance, and Strength), using True Yetbeop Taekyeon + Beast Mode Weasel (though I don't believe it'll be a huge boost at this point). Since boost cards don't provide as big of a boost at this point in Suhyeon's story, it might just be enough to match Dowan's AP and Strength. Looking at his Unite Gangbuk key, I believe Suhyeon doesn't have A Quiet Strength, so that's a trump card he sadly won't have. He still has his 500kg+ card, though it might not matter due to Dowan's strength, he has adomitable to tank 3 attacks, berzerk mode to ignore pain, healing peach to restore his health, and uncool to maybe try a different set of load cards

For Dowan's abilities, he doesn't have any buff skills, but his active skills allow him to fight in an unorthodox way. Falcon Revolve gives him a crazy boost in attack speed, which will likely always land due to the severe speed the attack has. Booster should allow Dowan to match the increase in speed Suhyeon can get with his own cards during its 30 seconds. However, most of his skills aren't going to be that big of a difference besides Charge Shot. Though the exact boost of Charge Shot is unknown, it appears to be big enough to allow Dowan to struggle with a Representative to easily beat them, so it appears to be significant. However, I believe another Charge Shot effect that shouldn't be ignored is that it is undodgeable, so if Suhyeon messes up once, Charge Shot will damage him significantly, especially since Dowan is already likely to have higher AP. Plus, any critical hit due to Dowan's passive will deal a significant amount of damage to Suhyeon as it targets internal damage (organs, etc), and Suhyeon hasn't shown great resistance to his own verse critical hits, so internal damage attacks will be very dangerous. Since this is the Beginning of Season 2 key, he doesn't have "Make a blind spot," so that'll be ignored.

Final Result: I believe if Dowan (Sunjae) [Beginning of Season 2 key] and Suhyeon [Unite Gangbuk Key] were to repeatedly fight, Dowan would win most of these matches. Though Suhyeon has more versatile abilities, self-buffs, and healing, due to the AP and Strength gap [since speed is equalized]. Having no exact win con, Suhyeon will need to rely on outlasting Dowan through his various tanking and healing abilities, which will be tough as Dowan can use Charge Shot (even level 1 and 2 will be hard to tank), and any critical hit Dowan lands will prove to be even more fatal. Plus, with the earrings giving Dowan some redirection skills, it'll make it even tougher to outlast him. Plus, due to the massive strength gap, Dowan could just hold/pin Suhyeon down a lot, giving him more chances to win.
Dowan Ha Mode: Choi Sun-Jae's Earrings — is he able to use other skills as well?
Because from what he has shown so far, I haven’t seen him use any other skills while in Choi Sun-Jae’s Earrings Mode.

I think Suhyeon can use 160 MJ, since he has the same stats as Johan Seong and Daniel Park (TB), who also had UNMEASURABLE stats. So I believe the scaling should be possible.
 
Dowan Ha Mode: Choi Sun-Jae's Earrings — is he able to use other skills as well?
Because from what he has shown so far, I haven’t seen him use any other skills while in Choi Sun-Jae’s Earrings Mode.

I think Suhyeon can use 160 MJ, since he has the same stats as Johan Seong and Daniel Park (TB), who also had UNMEASURABLE stats. So I believe the scaling should be possible.
The thing is, only the Black Lock key has a panel saying he couldn't use his skills “in auto mode”. I didn't want to assume the same thing for the Earring mode just because we haven't seen it say something similar. After all, the earring mode already made him powerful enough to deal with his opponent with no issues, so there was no need to use his skills. I think this is a similar argument to not just saying Suhyeon can't use his cards on strong opponents, too, because only a few of his cards have had that effect, and it'd be unfair on Suhyeon to assume the same.

For the 160 MJ, I'm still on the fence and disagree with giving him 160 MJ. After all, we do know there are levels to Unmeasurable, and I also didn't agree with Base Lil Daniel having the same AP as Vasco, just from some other chain scaling and statements made from other characters that kind of deny that Base Lil Daniel is as strong as Base Vasco. I won't completely deny it, but at worst, because of the ambiguity of the stats, I can only say the match will be inconclusive due to Suhyeon's ambiguous AP or a Win for Dowan due to a higher 100% confirmed AP. I was thinking of doing this matchup eventually, but I was going to wait for the Lookism crossover to decide how strong Suhyeon actually was.

Edit: But if we don't believe that Dowan can use his system skills during his Synch mode, then I'd be willing to give it to Suhyeon due to now being able to cast debuffs too on him. Also, not having to worry about charged attack/boost skills will be a huge advantage for Suhyeon. It'll be up to you if you want to decide if Dowan can use his skills with his earrings, as there is no exact confirmation if his system skills won't work like with the Auto-mode.
 
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What items does Dowan have access to? Just the earrings or all of them?
Does Dowan start with his abilities synced with Choi Sun-Jae or does he start in base and can use the earrings whenever he thinks he needs to.

Edit: Does Suhyeon have access to his copy clouds?
 
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If speed is equalized, do amps/debuffs work from both sides? (i.e., Suhyeon buffing speed stats or Dowan using Falcon Revolve to get the attack speed of the skill). Actually, since we don't know the exact speed buff percentage they get, I'll just assume it's comparable for both (I'll also assume the earrings don't have a time limit). So I'll just look at their AP, strength, skills, and abilities. I've thought about this matchup multiple times, so here is my belief.

For AP, Dowan (Sunjae Earrings) are relatively easy to find (i.e., at least 130 MJ). Suhyeon (Unite Gangbuk Key) is much harder to find his AP, considering there is no concrete feat or direct scaling. I don't believe that he has the same AP as Vasco, but basically, Suhyeon's AP ranges from 5 MJ [definitely way higher since that was UR+ stats] to likely less than 160 MJ. Due to the unreliability of finding Suhyeon's exact AP, I need to give it to Dowan (Sunjae Earrings). For strength, Dowan (Class M) severely outmatches Suhyeon (likely Class 25) in the strength field, so any holding or grappling will be a disadvantage to Suhyeon. For BIQ, looking at both pages, it seems Dowan's Combat IQ is acknowledged to be slightly better, though I don't think the difference is big enough to contribute to changing the end result. Dowan with Sunjae earrings also has his redirecting skills, which can be useful too.

Suhyeon has a variety of debuff and buffing abilities, but since Dowan has Circulation of Light (nullifies all abnormal conditions immediately, so debuffs are likely not to work). So Suhyeon will need to focus on using self-buff and attack abilities. I believe Suhyeon's best combination of cards to win would be Loading Jigen-Ryu + Invincible Wrestler + The Weakest Link (I believe in most scenarios, Dowan will still have higher AP, Endurance, and Strength), using True Yetbeop Taekyeon + Beast Mode Weasel (though I don't believe it'll be a huge boost at this point). Since boost cards don't provide as big of a boost at this point in Suhyeon's story, it might just be enough to match Dowan's AP and Strength. Looking at his Unite Gangbuk key, I believe Suhyeon doesn't have A Quiet Strength, so that's a trump card he sadly won't have. He still has his 500kg+ card, though it might not matter due to Dowan's strength, he has adomitable to tank 3 attacks, berzerk mode to ignore pain, healing peach to restore his health, and uncool to maybe try a different set of load cards

For Dowan's abilities, he doesn't have any buff skills, but his active skills allow him to fight in an unorthodox way. Falcon Revolve gives him a crazy boost in attack speed, which will likely always land due to the severe speed the attack has. Booster should allow Dowan to match the increase in speed Suhyeon can get with his own cards during its 30 seconds. However, most of his skills aren't going to be that big of a difference besides Charge Shot. Though the exact boost of Charge Shot is unknown, it appears to be big enough to allow Dowan to struggle with a Representative to easily beat them, so it appears to be significant. However, I believe another Charge Shot effect that shouldn't be ignored is that it is undodgeable, so if Suhyeon messes up once, Charge Shot will damage him significantly, especially since Dowan is already likely to have higher AP. Plus, any critical hit due to Dowan's passive will deal a significant amount of damage to Suhyeon as it targets internal damage (organs, etc), and Suhyeon hasn't shown great resistance to his own verse critical hits, so internal damage attacks will be very dangerous. Since this is the Beginning of Season 2 key, he doesn't have "Make a blind spot," so that'll be ignored.

Final Result: I believe if Dowan (Sunjae) [Beginning of Season 2 key] and Suhyeon [Unite Gangbuk Key] were to repeatedly fight, Dowan would win most of these matches. Though Suhyeon has more versatile abilities, self-buffs, and healing, due to the AP and Strength gap [since speed is equalized]. Having no exact win con, Suhyeon will need to rely on outlasting Dowan through his various tanking and healing abilities, which will be tough as Dowan can use Charge Shot (even level 1 and 2 will be hard to tank), and any critical hit Dowan lands will prove to be even more fatal. Plus, with the earrings giving Dowan some redirection skills, it'll make it even tougher to outlast him. Plus, due to the massive strength gap, Dowan could just hold/pin Suhyeon down a lot, giving him more chances to win.
I agree to this also dowan could just use charge shot in the dark what i mean by that that he can charge while he is hiding in the dark waiting for the moment and then open his eyes and hits suhyeon to let's say charge shot lvl 3 which i think its pretty enough for suhyeon
 
So here's how I see Base Dowan vs Suhyeon going:

AP:
Shuheon:
160 MJ, far higher with buffs
Dowan: 77 MJ, higher with skills
An initial 2x advantage in Suhyeon's favor.
But Dowan has a few ways to make up for this.

Rage Power:
In his fight against Hosung Kim (someone comparable to Han Eun-Sung who's Small Building Level) in the Post-Dragon's Nest key.
Dowan made himself strong enough to not just damage but defeat Hosung through his rage amp.
Going from Wall Level (8.67 MJ) to Small Building Level (at least 21.89 MJ)
That's an at least 2.52x boost in AP via Rage Power. There is no reason to assume he can't pull of a similar level of power boost via rage in this fight.

Critical Hit and Carving The Weak Spot:
Dowan can completely ignore Suhyeon's durability via these skills.
Critical Hit has a 1/100 chance of activating.
This happening is more possible than it seems since S2 Dowan luck seems to be incredible (Not quite Supernatural but still incredible).
He won a 5 star prize on his first try, a prize that only had a 0.00000000001% chance of appearing.

And he can completely eliminate the luck element by using Carving The Weak Spot.
With this skill he can just mark a spot on Suhyeon and land hits that completely bypass his defense as many times as he wants.

Durability: Mostly same as AP aside from Guard Fist and Indomitable.
Suhyeon can completely nullify four attacks from Dowan (3 via Indomitable and 1 via Guard Fist).
It could be a good way to not get one shot by Dowan's dura neg.

There is also Invincible Wrestle that renders Suhyeon immune to all damage for 2 minutes but I think Dowan can nullify this one through his dura neg abilities as dura neg is listed as one of the direct ways to counter Invulnerability on it's page.

Speed:
Equal (initially), can be increased via buffs/skills
I think Dowan can outclass Shuyeon's speed buffs with boosters.
In the Post-Dragon's Nest Dowan's base speed is Transonic (326+ m/s) which gets increased to Hypersonic (2,519 m/s) when he uses Falcon Revolve.
Falcon revolve is slower than Boosters, so using boosters makes Dowan 7.7x faster for 30 seconds.
This same level of speed amp should apply to boosters in the S2 key, nothing in Suhyeon's arsenal gives him this level of speed boost.

Lifting Strength:
Dowan outclasses to oblivion with 7,823.43x advantage.

Abilities:
  • Suheon's abilities that could trouble Dowan:
Guard Fist:
Dowan has no counter against this one, aside from maybe overwhelming it with Multi Strike Destruction.
Fog Of Negotiation:
Same as Guard Fist, once this card is activated all Dowan can do is wait for it's effect to end.
Healing Bean and Mirror Call:
Suhyeon's healing abilities are just better than Dowan's.
Though, the moment Dowan realizes that Suhyeon possesses these healing abilities he'll get serious and do his absolute best to Suhyeon down as fast as he can.
Machiavellian:
While Dowan has purification, there are no feats to assume it can cure things like statistics reduction.
That said, the moment Suhyeon uses this on Dowan, his system will notify him.
Realizing he's being weakened, just like with healing Dowan will get serious and do his absolute best to Suhyeon down as fast as he can.
This is not good for Suhyeon since if he gets hit within 10 seconds of the card's activation the effect will fail.
Hitting Suhyeon within those 10 seconds would be easy for Dowan to do with Boosters.
  • Dowan's abilities that will trouble Suheon:
Stun Smash:
Any technique that utilizes Dowan's LS advantage is something Suhyeon just can't handle.
Blind Spot Strike:
Speed amp + The system will automatically pick the spot on Suhyeon's body where he's not expecting to get hit/will deal the most damage when hit and land the hit.
Boosters and Falcon Revolve:
7.7x speed advantage.
Carving the Weak Spot and Critical Hit:
Durability Negation.
Weapon Mastery:
Base Dowan's combat skill is already above Suhyeon's.
If Suhyeon uses his Kali Arnis, Dowan's Weapon Mastery will activate adding Auto Mode level of fighting skill with weapons to his already better combat skill + make whatever weapon he's using stronger (it can make a toy hammer hit as hard as a metal bat).
With Weapon Mastery Dowan will humiliate Suhyeon in H2H with just his belt or a random stick or something he picked up from the ground.
Rage Power:
2.52x amp in AP.
Supernatural Willpower:
Suhyeon's skills like Stun Fist and others that paralyze the opponent just won't work on Dowan.
The System, an entity FAR above humanity forcibly (using magic basically) paralyses his body and shuts down his consciousness to knock him out when his HP gets too low. If he can resist the actions of this higher entity and keep fighting through his willpower and rage. He can do the same to Suhyeon's paralysis skills.

This also makes It impossible for the Copy Cloud to copy him.
Since it paralyses it's target to copy it, paralyses Dowan will just break free from via his willpower.
Fear-inducing Aura:
Suhyeon has no resistance to the supernatural fear inducement that is a common ability for high tiers in Reality Quest.
 
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In short,
Suhyeon probably had better AP (even with Dowan's rage amp) and will have better durability until Guard Fist and Indomitable run out.
But Dowan outclasses him in speed, FAR outclasses him in LS, has better abilities and counters most of Suhyeon's abilities.

I think Dowan takes this even without the earrings.
 
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In short,
Suhyeon probably had better AP (even with Dowan's rage amp) and will have better durability until Guard Fist and Indomitable run out.
But Dowan outclasses him in speed, FAR outclasses him in LS and has better abilities and counters most of Suhyeon's abilities.

I think Dowan takes this even without the earrings.
I guess i agree but i don't think suhyeon have this 160 MJ of base ap it just weird to scale suhyeon anyways i still think dowan wins regardless
 
What items does Dowan have access to? Just the earrings or all of them?
Does Dowan start with his abilities synced with Choi Sun-Jae or does he start in base and can use the earrings whenever he thinks he needs to.
Suhyeon starts from Base to Peak, while Dowan starts from Choi Sun-Jae’s Earrings.

Does Suhyeon have access to his copy clouds?
It can be used, but if the opponent's stats are too high, it can't be copied.
(However, I don't think it would be possible to copy Dowan while he's using Choi Sun-Jae’s Earrings.)
In short,
Suhyeon probably had better AP (even with Dowan's rage amp) and will have better durability until Guard Fist and Indomitable run out.
But Dowan outclasses him in speed, FAR outclasses him in LS and has better abilities and counters most of Suhyeon's abilities.

I think Dowan takes this even without the earrings.
I think the same way, because even though Suhyeon has much higher stats, he's quite weak in terms of hax and has too many conditions compared to Dowan.
 
Suhyeon starts from Base to Peak, while Dowan starts from Choi Sun-Jae’s Earrings.
The earrings are an item that have a time limit to how long they can be used.
Making Dowan start with them active is like making Suhyeon start the fight with his Maximum Capacity already active.
It's an unfair advantage to Suhyeon. Dowan should start in base and have the item available to use when/if he deems necessary during the fight.

It can be used, but if the opponent's stats are too high, it can't be copied.
(However, I don't think it would be possible to copy Dowan while he's using Choi Sun-Jae’s Earrings.)
I don't think Suhyeon can even copy base Dowan.
Not only can the cloud not keep him paralyzed long enough to copy him due to Dowan's willpower.
But Dowan also has a 7,823.43x LS advantage, Suhyeon has never copied anyone that much stronger than him.
 
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The earrings are an item that have a time limit to how long they can be used.
Making Dowan start with them active is like making Suhyeon start the fight with his Maximum Capacity already active.
It's an unfair advantage to Suhyeon. Dowan should start in base and have the item available to use when/if he deems necessary during the fight.


I don't think Suhyeon can even copy base Dowan.
Not only can the cloud not keep him paralyzed long enough to copy him due to Dowan's willpower.
But Dowan also has a 7,823.43x LS advantage, Suhyeon has never copied anyone that much stronger than him.
That’s probably the case. So, does this mean Dowan wins?
 
Is Suhyeon using Fog of Negotiation then Silver Tongue to persuade Dowan considered a win con

Also, Suhyeon can fix the speed problem by Loading Jihyeon's homing attack
 
Is Suhyeon using Fog of Negotiation then Silver Tongue to persuade Dowan considered a win con

Also, Suhyeon can fix the speed problem by Loading Jihyeon's homing attack
If it were actual mind-control, I'd say it could be a win-con, but since Silver Tongue only increases the chances of persuasion, that doesn't seem convincing enough because standard battle rules also assume that characters will try their usual hardest to win. Dowan also has Superhuman Willpower so it’ll be unlikely for him to be persuaded to give up.
 
If it were actual mind-control, I'd say it could be a win-con, but since Silver Tongue only increases the chances of persuasion, that doesn't seem convincing enough because standard battle rules also assume that characters will try their usual hardest to win. Dowan also has Superhuman Willpower so it’ll be unlikely for him to be persuaded to give up.
Based on Yun Jo and Suhyeon's usage it look pretty much like Mind control though.

but yeah it's understandable
 
The thing is, only the Black Lock key has a panel saying he couldn't use his skills “in auto mode”. I didn't want to assume the same thing for the Earring mode just because we haven't seen it say something similar. After all, the earring mode already made him powerful enough to deal with his opponent with no issues, so there was no need to use his skills. I think this is a similar argument to not just saying Suhyeon can't use his cards on strong opponents, too, because only a few of his cards have had that effect, and it'd be unfair on Suhyeon to assume the same.

For the 160 MJ, I'm still on the fence and disagree with giving him 160 MJ. After all, we do know there are levels to Unmeasurable, and I also didn't agree with Base Lil Daniel having the same AP as Vasco, just from some other chain scaling and statements made from other characters that kind of deny that Base Lil Daniel is as strong as Base Vasco. I won't completely deny it, but at worst, because of the ambiguity of the stats, I can only say the match will be inconclusive due to Suhyeon's ambiguous AP or a Win for Dowan due to a higher 100% confirmed AP. I was thinking of doing this matchup eventually, but I was going to wait for the Lookism crossover to decide how strong Suhyeon actually was.

Edit: But if we don't believe that Dowan can use his system skills during his Synch mode, then I'd be willing to give it to Suhyeon due to now being able to cast debuffs too on him. Also, not having to worry about charged attack/boost skills will be a huge advantage for Suhyeon. It'll be up to you if you want to decide if Dowan can use his skills with his earrings, as there is no exact confirmation if his system skills won't work like with the Auto-mode.
I guess I never gave my full confirmation, but especially with DeltaStriker's argument, I do believe Dowan wins. Whether the earrings were unlimited time or if he can use his systems with the earrings confused me a bit, but even if the earrings do break, I believe that Dowan, with his system, can still pull the win.
 
@BlackCat i think five votes is enough is this gonna conclude or there has to be more votes?
The versus thread says there needs to be at least 7 votes for one person and a 3 minimum vote difference between the two fighters. Additionally the voters need to provide reasonings or agreement to reasonings. This versus probably won’t end for a while
 
The versus thread says there needs to be at least 7 votes for one person and a 3 minimum vote difference between the two fighters. Additionally the voters need to provide reasonings or agreement to reasonings. This versus probably won’t end for a while
Ok then we'll wait for new votes i guess
 
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