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What happens when you jump on the bandwagon too late I'm afraid.
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Swamp Thing vs Homura Akemi
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Like?Kaltias said:
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Dante with mindhax resistance?
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Also would this, in fact, be a better idea? I figured the most recent iteration would be better to use but maybe this version of ST would be better suited.Sir Ovens said:
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To be fair, both Swamp Things are exactly the same. Not just in concept, they're exactly the same character. The reason why they even have High-Godly regen is because Post-Flashpoint regenerated from the complete destruction of his multiverse and came back in the new one as the same character. So in theory, they should have all the same abilities. But for some reason, Classic has just a little more abilities, so I suggest you use him.
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Alright, I will edit the topics and the OP. We're using Classic Swamp Thing from this point forward.
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Mother of god another Homura thread
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that was sooooo good XDKaltias said:
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Yes yes another Homura thread and everyone's very annoyed. We've made that abundantly clear. Now can we please focus on answering the question at hand?
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if homura can mind hax/drain cosmic imagination she can do the same to swamp thing....
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Homura for reasons above.
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unless swamp thing has feats of resisting memory manip of homuras level she wins...because as it is already stated ( 10000000 times) she starts the fight with memory manip ...
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Homura loses to God Swamp Thing, but the 2-A matchup is more interesting.
Is Swamp thing resistant to Mind/Memory Manipulation or having his power drained? Because I don't think she can kill him, but she could incapacitate him fully.
Is Swamp thing resistant to Mind/Memory Manipulation or having his power drained? Because I don't think she can kill him, but she could incapacitate him fully.
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Note that my posts do not refer to god swamp thing..... as i agree that it stomps
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Homura vs Mother Eater when?..... Seriously, stop spamming her. This is Reinhard, Lucemon, Alphamon and Hades all over again....
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Kharn for reasons above ovo
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Alphamon was cool though.
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I honestly can't blame spamming considering my experience with certain non-spam/not notorious characters.
Have fun bumping a thread for a month or two.
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Real Talk, if Swamp thing can duplicate and his mind is literally every single plant life/the entirety of the Green I don't see Homura instantly Memory Haxxing him so taking that into account it does leave things open to debate as whether or not Swamp could put her down before getting Memory Haxxed.
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She can't kill himDMUA said:
But she can drain his powers and erase his memories
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Reality warp is a meh ability on this level......homura can neutralize swamp thing with memory haxDMUA said:
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See this:
"Putting simply, The Green is a metaphysical elemental realm connected to all plant life on Earth, the Universe, and Creation as a whole, inhabitted by the collective mind of the Parliament of Trees. Swamp Thing is The Green's Elemental, a being who wields and embodies its power to protect it against various threats."
"Of course, if there is a Green connected to all plant life in existence, there must also be other realms. And indeed, there is The Red which is connected to all Animal Life in the Multiverse, The Clear connected to all aquatic life in the Multiverse, The Grey which is connected to all fungal life in the Multiverse, and The Rot, connected to the death of all life in the Multiverse. There are even realms which exist beyond The Green. This will return later."
"How does he do it? Simply put, Swamp-Thing will regenerate as long as The Green exists. So unless you can erase a metaphysical realm connected to all reality, and that was completely unaffected by the destruction of the infinite Pre-Crisis Multiverse, and has even been shown to be connected to other Multiverses (Lucifer's Multiverse in the Vertigo Series), good luck killing Swamp Thing."
"Putting simply, The Green is a metaphysical elemental realm connected to all plant life on Earth, the Universe, and Creation as a whole, inhabitted by the collective mind of the Parliament of Trees. Swamp Thing is The Green's Elemental, a being who wields and embodies its power to protect it against various threats."
"Of course, if there is a Green connected to all plant life in existence, there must also be other realms. And indeed, there is The Red which is connected to all Animal Life in the Multiverse, The Clear connected to all aquatic life in the Multiverse, The Grey which is connected to all fungal life in the Multiverse, and The Rot, connected to the death of all life in the Multiverse. There are even realms which exist beyond The Green. This will return later."
"How does he do it? Simply put, Swamp-Thing will regenerate as long as The Green exists. So unless you can erase a metaphysical realm connected to all reality, and that was completely unaffected by the destruction of the infinite Pre-Crisis Multiverse, and has even been shown to be connected to other Multiverses (Lucifer's Multiverse in the Vertigo Series), good luck killing Swamp Thing."
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Taking this into account I really, really really don't see Memory Hax INSTANTLY putting him down without any manner of backlash seeing how Goddess Madoka did come close to returning to her Law of Cycles self despite having 0 resistances to Memory Hax or no manner of regen or any other manifestation whatsoever.
Considering Swamp thing could have many manifestations I'm relatively certain he can get around the memory haxxing in this manner and as far as I know power drain recquires direct physical contact so this is pretty debatable as I see it.
Considering Swamp thing could have many manifestations I'm relatively certain he can get around the memory haxxing in this manner and as far as I know power drain recquires direct physical contact so this is pretty debatable as I see it.
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@Kaltias Well, my argument isn't that the Memory Hax is out of the table.
It's that in this case, it isn't "Memory Hax GG" by a long shot. I may see it eventually working if Homura stays in the game long enough but certainly I don't see it happening from the get go.
It's that in this case, it isn't "Memory Hax GG" by a long shot. I may see it eventually working if Homura stays in the game long enough but certainly I don't see it happening from the get go.
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Isn't Homulilly's life absorption ranged though? Akuma Homura could be able to drain him without contact, but i'm really not sure about that.
Plus, it's true that Madoka came close to breaking free from it (isn't that a resistance feat on her part?) but if it connects she can just keep mindscrewing.
Plus, it's true that Madoka came close to breaking free from it (isn't that a resistance feat on her part?) but if it connects she can just keep mindscrewing.
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Either way I'll vote Swamp Thing here, too. Classic One is no stranger to the Memory Hax (he also has Memory Absorption of his own on top of what I already said), and considering his ridiculous levels of regen (as by comparison, Homura is way more attack than defense oriented) I believe the Swamp will outlast Homura and can also Overwhelm her with numbers via Duplication before he is put down himself.
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Wanna point out, while madoka is a multiversal concept, isn't the green a multiversal('s) concept?
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He can regenerate all he wants if homura power drains him...like she did to madoka she will gain the right to toy with the concept of green as she did with the law of cycles.....full drain is not even needed....she didnt drain the law of cycles she just broke a part of them the same will happen in this situation...
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But the thing is that Madoka still has one manifestation and almost broke free (she actually did break free the first time too before Homura power drained), and Homura was close to her to do the memory hax again, while Swamp Thing can manifestate from whatever plant life as the metaphysical Green is there and his powers seem to work even if his connection to the green is entirely cut, going from his regen for example.Kaltias said:
Nonetheless I'll have to vote the green thing here.
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Recquires physical contact. When Madoka was power drained she was entirely offguard, what makes you think Swamp Thing will stay there letting Homura do that?Chaospaladin15 said:
Plus Swamp Thing can reform and manifestate even if he is torn apart from The Green so that whole 'she did it to the Law of Cycles' is not flying. Homura isn't memory haxxing the entirety of the green and every plant life in existence while also power draining the entirety of the green and Swamp Thing with a finger snap.
Comparing feats, that's beyond even her paycheck.
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