Superboy Prime vs MegaMan.EXE

[BruceTheBatman]

KillitwithC4 wrote
That only depends if the shields can take a lot of punishment from SBP.

They can since they take punishment from similar characters.

 

[Reppuzan]

Also, Mega has a lot to stop SBP from pummeling him:

The Dark Aura is a borderline higher-dimensional barrier that is able to withstand the destruction of the enter Cyber World and then some. People on Bass' (and thus Mega's) level are able to break it with ease.

Dark Chips will be carving up chunks of SBP's soul with each hit.

Giga Freeze flash freezes him along with every possible escape route.

Mega can shove a black hole in his face with the Black Hole Battle chip.

He can summon the Poison Pharaoh to make SBP choke on poisonous gas.

Activates Hub.Bat, giving him a shield that rebounds incoming kinetic attacks right back at his opponents and allows him to survive any lethal attack on top of granting him flight and making his Mega Buster the equivalent of a gatling cannon.

He can enter any one of his melee oriented forms and start going hand-to-hand (his first fight on screen in the anime is him casually pummeling GutsMan, a physically oriented Navi, with his bare hands).

 

[KillitwithC4]

And if they break, how long does it take for Megaman to take another shield out while in a middle of a fight with a rpersistent brute.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

And if they break, how long does it take for Megaman to take another shield out while in a middle of a fight with a rpersistent brute.

He can do it almost instantly, if not outright instantly.

 

[KillitwithC4]

how many shields does he have?

 

[Reppuzan]

He only needs one. I highly doubt that SBP, for as strong as he is, can break through something that can take the complete and utter annihilation of the Cyber World as easily as you think he can. Plus, Mega has taken attacks from the few entities who ca break it, and has even beaten Gospel, who is powerful enough to fuse the Real World and the Cyber World together, with just his Style Changes.

All the while, Mega can use any of the haxes I mentioned earlier or simply maul SBP to death in Gregar Form.

Oh and the Shield I mentioned that he gets from Hub.Bat, it doesn't break, ever.

 

[KillitwithC4]

It doesn't break in his verse, I think someone outside his verse can break his shield.

 

[Reppuzan]

So... you're saying that if it is able to withstand attacks from Casual Universe Busters (Bass, Serenade, and Gospel) and withstood blows from beings that embody entire universes (i.e. Alpha) it must be so weak that SBP can break it. Is that right?

 

[Aparajita]

If SPM has no way of breaking MMX's shield, then this fight is a stomp and needs to be closed.

 

[Reppuzan]

I probably should have brought this up earlier, but the unbreakable shield I'm talking about (since it works by rebounding force rather than outright withstanding it) is an actual arm-mounted shield and not an omnidirectional barrier like the Dark Aura.

Thus it's not like Mega is able to replicate Serenade's Raiment Shield or pull an Accelerator on us.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Only one of his shields (Dark Aura) isn't breakable by SBP so lets set that aside.

Wait a minute. Bass.EXE uses the Dark Aura almost all the time and MMEXE breaks it. Should he maybe be upgraded? If so then Ap is rigbt and this is a mismatch at it's foundation. If so then I'm sorry.

 

[Reppuzan]

The Gospel thing might have been a one-off feat (since the rest of the battles were centralized in the Cyber World from then on).

I'm not sure if the destruction of the Cyber World is a space-time feat, as he only makes the jump to Tier 2 if he explicitly destroys a space-time continuum. The only time he's ever accomplished something like that was when he disassembled the Cyber World in its entirety in the anime.

The Dark Aura was designed to survive the complete and utter annihilation of the Cyber World and Bass busts it with a single hit, but it's not specified whether annihilation also refers to space-time (since the authors aren't going to think that far ahead when they have a children's demographic).

 

[KillitwithC4]

So... you're saying that if it is able to withstand attacks from Casual Universe Busters (Bass, Serenade, and Gospel) and withstood blows from beings that embody entire universes (i.e. Alpha) it must be so weak that SBP can break it. Is that right?

I never said it was weak, I said there's people outside his verse that can break the shield through hax.

 

[Reppuzan]

Please tell me what kind of hax SBP has that would shut out a digital barrier?

Molecular Manipulation and freezing attacks do zilch against a data being.

Not to mention the fact that SBP's infamous Retcon Punch doesn't seem to activate on command, or else he would have used it more often.

 

[KillitwithC4]

Torquasm Rao, which is basically pressure points. He'll find the weak spots really easily with his microscopice vision.

 

[Reppuzan]

Dark Aura is a forcefield that prevents physical contact and has no weakspots.

 

[KillitwithC4]

Can it withstand heat vision?

 

[Reppuzan]

Literally everyone and their mother has energy attacks in the Mega Man franchise. Fodder Navis can throw around Black Holes. Heat Vision is nothing new.

 

[Cropfist]

I would say Prime. I know little about Megaman.EXE, but Prime endured a Big Bang blast. His durability is absolutely nuts.

Both characters have tanked universal explosions

Prime tanked a universal explosion while nearly completely drained of energy and was only knocked out. He's a higher level of universal.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Prime tanked a universal explosion while nearly completely drained of energy and was only knocked out. He's a higher level of universal.

Mega man was exhausted after fighting Alpha, Bass and many other Navis and he was similarly only knocked out and sorta in limbo for a while since it was kinda limbo space.

 

[Reppuzan]

@BruceTheBatman

Uh, no. The hologram of Tadashi Hikari sent Mega's backup data to his dad before the collapse. So he really was deleted.

That said, he's more than capable of tanking attacks that busted the Dark Aura that has constantly been going around this thread. So it's not like Mega's a glass cannon and he's definitely on the same level as SBP.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Oh. Nvm then. Thank you forbthe clarification however.

 

[Zigeal]

The neglect of EXE's full power is overwhelming here. None of you have even taken into account that SBP would have to be also dealing with any variety of EXE's "pets" from MMBN3. No matter how good you are at CQC 1on1, you can not focus when you have 3 Scuts (EACH with their own Aura Barriers and different elemental attacks) taking erasure shots at you to protect their owner. The only way I see Baby Supe's winning is if EXE accidentaly used one of his "Boktai" themed chips by mistake. My vote's for Hub.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Prime: 6 (although TQDs and Apas reasoning was a bit sketchy tbh) Hub: 4

 

[Aparajita]

No matter how good you are at CQC 1on1

Prime is fantastic at multiple enemies. He fought all of the flashes at once, defeating them all. Raced Wally (or was it Bart, i don't really remember atm) back to the heart of the DCU, while the Flash absorbed all of the Speed Force. All of it. Including Zoom's, who has infinite speed because of the Speed Force.

My opinion is that Prime has better showings against enemies and unlike his newer incarnations, will not hesitate to use all of his strength to put someone down.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Prime is fantastic at multiple enemies. He fought all of the flashes at once, defeating them all. Raced Wally (or was it Bart, i don't really remember atm) back to the heart of the DCU, while the Flash absorbed all of the Speed Force. All of it. Including Zoom's, who has infinite speed because of the Speed Force.

My opinion is that Prime has better showings against enemies and unlike his newer incarnations, will not hesitate to use all of his strength to put someone down.

The flashes were only comparable to him in speed so they were at a disadvantage due to his power. Its also worth notinf that EXE fought an omnipresent once. Doesnt matger since speed is eaualized though

Nor will MegaMan.EXE if you charge at him with murderous intent.

 

[Reppuzan]

I honestly forgot about the Virus Farm. That said, I'm not sure if they're going to be of much use considering what Apajarita said above.

Mega never holds back and has basically deleted every target that comes into his sights. I don't think Mega's showings are inferior to Prime at all (given my limited knowledge).

Everyone on SBP's side seems to be ignoring the fact that SBP does not have resistance to Soul Haxing (at least, that's what's on his profile). Once Mega pulls out a Dark Chip things are going to get ugly for the Kryptonian. Not to mention his arm-mounted reflection shields and the fact that Mega is much more clear-headed when under pressure.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Just for laughs and off topic, but am I the only person who thinks that the dialogue in this fight and even kinda the fight itself would highly resemble Anakin Skywalker vs Obi Wan?

Hell, SBP and MME actually have similar personalities to Ani and Obi respectively

 

[Aparajita]

Everyone on SBP's side seems to be ignoring the fact that SBP does not have resistance to Soul Haxing

Except a much weaker superman (New 52) fought Cythonna, who has soul and mind hax, and he was able to resist it. His hax resistences seem to improve while he's under more direct (or close, it's unclear) Yellow Sunlight, although he was resisting Cythonna's Soul Hax regardless, just to a lesser degree.

MMX is clear headed under pressure, will give you that completely, however, he was still able to contend and defeat a full-speed force empowered Flash (Wally iirc, who is also very good under pressure), so it's not like SBP is going start fighting with an idiot. He's smart in combat, just bloodlusts too often.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It was Bart.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Apajarita A better question is, does Superboy-Prime have consistent showings of Soul Hax resistance. Since you know how inconsistent comics can be (i.e. Superman beating Tier 1 beings)

 

[Aparajita]

It was Bart.

Of course it would be.

@Reppuzan. Mmm... iirc no, from what i recall, SBP never fought a being with soul hax. Could be wrong, has been some time since i've seen the comics.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Prime: 5

Hub: 4