Super Yhwach vs Reinhard

[Warren_Valion]

No offense but the profile implies he creates new memories for the past version of his opponent
Also, nope, all I know is from the profile.

"Memory Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Past Manipulation with Book of the End (Can insert himself into the past of whomever is affected to create new memories, break their mind entirely by overloading them with too much information or to forcibly alter the present by created new timelines)"

Book of the End does actually rewrite the past, it was used to rewrite the past of Ichigo's Bankai being destroyed so that Orihime could negate the damage done to it - but the only way it incapped in the series was by implanting fake memories so that the others won't hurt the BoTE user (blanking on the name) - which won't work on Reinhard.

 

[DnW0]

Tsukishima is the guy :V

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

The Book of the End also allows for power null via past manipulation as seen with Byakuya, in short what it does is rewrite the past and the user can even go back at a point of the opponents past to study powers with them and render them ineffective against the user. And before someone screams "bUt PrInCe, ReIn HaS 1-A hAx!!!" This is an explanation of the power since some seem to think it's just mind hax.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Blame the profile, not me >:v

 

[DnW0]

BoTE doesn't involve time travel though, Tsukishima just changed the past so that he was present when the said person learned the ability

 

[Gun_Slave_Unit]

don't think it would change a thing since longinus would still be a 1-a construct and no amount of learning would make anyone immune to it. if anything, inserting himself into reinhard's past and making oneself reinhard's friend would make him all the more eager to fight you and reinhard would also know the extend of rei-o's power, in which case hes probably getting the spear earlier than latter

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

When fighting against Merc the first thing he did was throw the spear, so yeah, you are right

 

[Eganergo]

And a friendly reminder, SBA states willing to kill. Reinhard only throws his spear when he is willing to kill.

 

[DnW0]

I am no Masada expert, but if Reinhard's wincon is LLT wouldn't SK theoretically be able to circumvent it if he started the battle with eyes closed.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Yeah, 1-A shit makes it a stomp.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Being on its presence is enough for it to work (the pasives), the rest work on thought or by throwing it

 

[SchroKatze]

Also

If SK somehow lands a hit on Rein and breaks his entire body... Reinhard would just go all out. And an all-out Reinhard is the scariest smurf because the guy just spams whatever he has.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I kinda want to see an all out full power Reinhard against someone who can make him feel alive.

Just like the three colors or tbe apoptosis one but on his "base" form or those fighta animated

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

so F no fair match for rein i take it

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

question

how the hack this smurf (Rein) even exists on this wiki? other characters on this wiki get the "higher tier spells/abilities/weapons disabled" treatment,yet every single fight of this mofo,even in his 5-B key, includes his 1-A spear

its like, making a 6-B base Yhwach fight someone,. but letting him to open his eyes and become 5-B , or making 9-A Batman fight someone, but letting him to stomp his enemy with 4-B weapons and armors,or making a 4-B Thor fight, and letting him to use God Blast and Termo Blast, etc


if the guy ALWAYS uses his 1-A hax and AP spear,why don't you put his 5-B key against other 1-A's?

 

[Mizarle]

^Because he also has 1-A key? And if we gonna ban his very own power which he would obviously use in-character, what's the point of putting him in a match?

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

^Because he also has 1-A key? And if we gonna ban his very own power which he would obviously use in-character, what's the point of putting him in a match?

base 6-B yhwach in character used 5-B allmighty when being stomped by Ichibe

yet, people still make fair 6-B Yhwach matches, by restricting his allmighty

same goes for 4-B Thor and his 4-A Attacks (they simply get restricted in 4-B matches)

so how is this Rein any different?

 

[Mizarle]

I don't see notable matches with his restricted ver on his profile tho. And maybe it is because Reinhard doesn't have other actual weapon or fighting style besides his 1-A toys so they normally don't restrict those

Also how is he gonna fight without his 1-A toys? Barehanded?

 

[Eganergo]

This Rein is the weaker version of the actual Rein (3A) that can solo 99% of the verse by existing. He has an even weaker version, but dunno if someone willing to make the profile.

 

[PsychoWarper]

The 3-A Reinhard is the closest to full power Rein and he has passive 1-A Law Manipulation and becomes a 1-A in like 10 seconds.

As for the part about banning his powers, thats dumb and its dumb to do it to any character on the wiki, restricting a characters powers and abilities is dumb and makes the fight pointless since if you have to restrict a characters abilities for the fight to be fair the fight shouldnt happen.

Also iirc matches where you restrict powers arnt supposed to be added and basically become illegitimate.

 

[PsychoWarper]

This Rein is the weaker version of the actual Rein (3A) that can solo 99% of the verse by existing. He has an even weaker version, but dunno if someone willing to make the profile.

Tony is working on keys for Sealed and Human Reinhard.

 

[AppleLord]

Book of the End changes the past, Tsukishima was able to change the past of a seed to make it as he had already planted it years ago to create an instant giant tree out of nowhere, and he also rewrote the ground inside a dimension to go to a past where he already set traps on that location.

 

[Warren_Valion]

question
how the hack this smurf (Rein) even exists on this wiki? other characters on this wiki get the "higher tier spells/abilities/weapons disabled" treatment,yet every single fight of this mofo,even in his 5-B key, includes his 1-A spear

its like, making a 6-B base Yhwach fight someone,. but letting him to open his eyes and become 5-B , or making 9-A Batman fight someone, but letting him to stomp his enemy with 4-B weapons and armors,or making a 4-B Thor fight, and letting him to use God Blast and Termo Blast, etc


if the guy ALWAYS uses his 1-A hax and AP spear,why don't you put his 5-B key against other 1-A's?

Umm... this isn't true.

You can create a battle with restrictions to abilities, but those battles won't be added to the profiles.

Also, the examples you listed are kind of reaching.

Yhwach "opening his eyes" literally boosts Yhwach to another tier - it isn't a weapon that he can use in every tier like Reinhard.

And Reinhard's weapon is the spear - that's what he fights with. Batman making 4-B armors are extra accessories that Batman sometimes uses if needed.

Those aren't really comparable.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

There is a rule against adding matches where a combatant is restricted because they can't use their full powers/abilities too

 

[Eganergo]

What'd you expect? All of Reinhard's toys were given to him by Mercurius who is 1A to begin with.

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

bump.

 

[Ionliosite]

Reinhard stomps.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Mid-Godly Reinhard says no.

 

[Makkurona]

Long ass arguments, but in the end Reinhard kyo stomps yet again.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Stomp. Close this disgrace.