GyroNutz said:
"Yoshi is a Star Child. Case and point. No matter what game ge is in, he's a Star Child. He has a star in his heart. Simple as that. Your point doesn't make any sense."
Prove that every single Yoshi is a star child, considering that different Yoshis appear in different games. In case you didn't know, there's more than one Yoshi lol. The burden of proof is on you.
"Ok now, you clearly don't know Mario. I think you shouldn't post these comments in this thread. They are out of context, and simply wrong. The 90% of the time Peach got kindnapped by characters that she can clearly beat (since she has beaten Universal characters like Megabug, why the hell should she be weaker than the Koopalings? Of course though, we don't rate Peach "Low 2-C" because it's a clear outlier. However, that still proves that Peach is much stronger than the characters who kindnapped her, making the entire thing an obvious PIS)."
Spamming 'you don't know Mario' really doesn't make your arguments more solid and is an ad hominem. So your argument is that Peach shouldn't be kidnapped as she beat Megabug... but then you say that's an outlier? lolwat? It makes sense for Princess Peach to be kidnapped as that's a recurring theme in the Mario Bros series. It also makes sense for Peach to be a star child. What DOESN'T make sense is for Peach to be trillions of times stronger than her kidnappers.
My initial point about Paper Mario =/= Mario was that Paper Mario's abilities shouldn't really be comparable to Mario's abilities and vice versa. If that caused confusion intiially, I apologise. But alright, I'll bite.
"For example, in PM64, Bowser captured Peach, but at the end of the game, when Peach realized how powerful her Wish Abilities were, she's literally the one who stomped Bowser and the Star Rod. Not Mario."
That's a massive distortion of the facts. Here's how
Peach's wish worked. She wished for the Star Spirits to increase their power, and they do so not because Peach has some magical control over them, but because it was a selfless wish. It was the star spirits that ultimately allowed Mario to beat Bowser.
"the reason i have heard that since as a princess she does not want to fight nor use violence against the oppressors or she gets a disease or a curse that blocks her for ex. by Cackletta."
Sounds fair. But what about instances where Peach fights against her oppressors but is defeated? An example is Elder Princess Shroob, where Peach uses the Cobalt Star to seal her but is then defeated by Younger Princess Shroob.
To conclude, I think it's fair to give enemies that have been shown to be on par/superior to the Star Children the same ranking as them instead of calling every instance where the Star Children are shown to have met their match 'PIS'.
Btw it's spelt 'Derailing'.
OMG, honestly, this is so wrong, i don't even wanna talk about it. Like i said, you should stop. You are derailing the thread.
So you are saying that in the other games Yoshi isn't a Star Child?What...... That's, by far, the most stupid thing i ever heard. Mario games are all of the same continuity, they are simply games talking about different things: You are now basically saying that each Mario game is a different timeline, and in each timeline Mario is a different person with different backstory and etc without really any argument at all.
Yoshi was born as a Star Child. He grows up as a Star Child. He IS A STAR CHILD. What the...???! You are just saying "well we can't assume Yoshi is a Star Child in every game" WITHOUT A LOGICAL REASON. Why shouldn't we? Again, it's not like each Mario game is a different timeline. They are all part of the same timeline, (Paper Mario is the same thing. Paper Mario = Mario, AGAIN), they are simply different adventures.
Please stop with this non-sense.
Hm, lol what? You do realize Peach is a Star Child, right? And you do realize that as a Star Child, she can simply stomp an entire army made of Koopa, Goombas and even the Koopalings or whatever enemy the one in front of Peach is, right?
Most of the times, Peach gets kindnapped by Bowser, which makes sense. It makes sense because BOTH Peach and Bowser are Star Children, with the difference that Bowser is a more brutal one and is less peace-oriented.
However, the times she gets kindnapped by enemies that are OBVIOUSLY weaker than her (for example, the Koopalings. Pach was able to stomp characters empowered by Green Stars in SM3D World (and mind you, Green Stars are comparable to Power Stars) yet now she can't defeat the Koopalings?).
And no, my point was that, as showed, Peach can defeat characters much stronger than the Koopalings (Megabug is an example). She doesn't scale because Megabug is an outlier, however the fact that she showed to hurt Megabug further proves the fact that she doesn't have a problem with stomping the Koopalings. Not to mention that Dark also made a fair and smart point.
- Facepalm*. The difference is, Peach is the one who powered the Star Spirits and let them use Peach Beam. And Peach can use Peach Beam on her own.
Without Peach, Mario would have already died. Peach however was there, and she proved to be capable with her wishing power. Peach's role in PM64 was pretty much to be the wisher.
