sun wukong question

[HammerStrikes219]

Anyway, all joking aside. Should we get a mod to close this thread? The OP is already answered I think

 

[Sus]

yes it can bs closed, see ya later monkey

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

yes it can bs closed, see ya later monkey

 

[DaringAttitude4]

the scale was made by the same dude who already scaled others verses already accepted as tier 0 here, if I had the material, I could sent the proof better instead of just saying

Udl blog? Girl, I tell you, you're just chock full of all kinds of bad information, Bern. And based on what I've deciphered so far, nothing can imply Tier 0 here.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Udl blog? Girl, I tell you, you're just chock full of all kinds of bad information, Bern. And based on what I've deciphered so far, nothing can imply Tier 0 here.

It doesnt seems to be bad informations, but i dunno nothing about the buddhism

 

[DaringAttitude4]

It doesnt seems to be bad informations, but i dunno nothing about the buddhism

I'm hesitant to call myself a Buddhist, but I see no Tier 0 here. At a rough estimate, I would say at least Low 2-C to Low 1-C, nothing more than that.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

I'm hesitant to call myself a Buddhist, but I see no Tier 0 here. At a rough estimate, I would say at least Low 2-C to Low 1-C, nothing more than that.

they do have a boundless amount of transcendences when it comes to wuji and taiji stuff.

 

[Sus]

they do have a boundless amount of transcendences when it comes to wuji and taiji stuff.

so is he 1-A after reaching nirvana

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Religious profiles got taken for being, controversial I think. I think. And also because they are usually very inconsistent.

I was honestly wondering for the longest time Christianity didn't have a page on the wiki lmao.

Goku still solo's Christ himself

 

[Bernkastelll]

I was honestly wondering for the longest time Christianity didn't have a page on the wiki lmao.

But we have this, which is not that different

Jehovah, sometimes identified as YHVH or simply God, is the Supreme Creator of the Abrahamic Religions, recognized as the one and only God in Christianity, Judaism and Islam, of whose Divine Presence all other divinities in alternate faiths and religions are nothing but pale shadows and who stands outside of Creation as its absolute ruler, enigmatic, ineffable and only ever manifesting through mere aspects of His being, such as the Jesus Christ, the Annointed One, who many believers recognize as the Son of God and the Good Sheperd who would guide humanity to the direction of its Creator, though even such aspects are still shaped entirely by the eyes of those who behold them, and thus their words ultimately reveal more about the person with whom they are communicating than about God Himself.

Tier: 1-A | 0 | 0

 

[MidnightDawn1]

But we have this, which is not that different

Jehovah, sometimes identified as YHVH or simply God, is the Supreme Creator of the Abrahamic Religions, recognized as the one and only God in Christianity, Judaism and Islam, of whose Divine Presence all other divinities in alternate faiths and religions are nothing but pale shadows and who stands outside of Creation as its absolute ruler, enigmatic, ineffable and only ever manifesting through mere aspects of His being, such as the Jesus Christ, the Annointed One, who many believers recognize as the Son of God and the Good Sheperd who would guide humanity to the direction of its Creator, though even such aspects are still shaped entirely by the eyes of those who behold them, and thus their words ultimately reveal more about the person with whom they are communicating than about God Himself.

Tier: 1-A | 0 | 0

Wait! So Christianity solo's Goku!?


My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

 

[Bernkastelll]

Wait! So Christianity solo's Goku!?

Always has been, no thing made by Man is close from God

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

so is he 1-A after reaching nirvana

yes and maybe higher

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Sorry to Derail again.

But can someone also come help answer my question here.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/how-do-you-calc-creation-feats.122393/

 

[DaringAttitude4]

they do have a boundless amount of transcendences when it comes to wuji and taiji stuff.

Not enough for 1-A lol

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

Not enough for 1-A lol

transcend space-time once you're already a low 1-C, so if you had a boundless transcendence over space-time, you're pretty much 1A+ already.

 

[TheDivineHost]

transcend space-time once you're already a low 1-C, so if you had a boundless transcendence over space-time, you're pretty much 1A+ already.

A mere glance is not enough for us to tell that it is 1-A+

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

A mere glance is not enough for us to tell that it is 1-A+

glance?

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

A mere glance is not enough for us to tell that it is 1-A+

it's practically how SCP-3812 got the 1A+ anyways except he transcended an infinite stack of narratives

 

[Sus]

transcend space-time once you're already a low 1-C, so if you had a boundless transcendence over space-time, you're pretty much 1A+ already.

no that's just high 1B

 

[Sus]

it's practically how SCP-3812 got the 1A+ anyways except he transcended an infinite stack of narratives

he transcended infinite narratives not dimensions

 

[Sus]

But we have this, which is not that different

Jehovah, sometimes identified as YHVH or simply God, is the Supreme Creator of the Abrahamic Religions, recognized as the one and only God in Christianity, Judaism and Islam, of whose Divine Presence all other divinities in alternate faiths and religions are nothing but pale shadows and who stands outside of Creation as its absolute ruler, enigmatic, ineffable and only ever manifesting through mere aspects of His being, such as the Jesus Christ, the Annointed One, who many believers recognize as the Son of God and the Good Sheperd who would guide humanity to the direction of its Creator, though even such aspects are still shaped entirely by the eyes of those who behold them, and thus their words ultimately reveal more about the person with whom they are communicating than about God Himself.

Tier: 1-A | 0 | 0

sun wukong isn't from WoD tho

 

[N_Kardashev]

chinese myth is very much alive today so it gets to be tier 0 by virtue of being in the present

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

no that's just high 1B

if scp 3812 could be 1A+ via transcending an infinite narrative stack. why can't someone who has boundless transcendences over space time be 1A+?

 

[Sus]

if scp 3812 could be 1A+ via transcending an infinite narrative stack. why can't someone who has boundless transcendences over space time be 1A+?

because infinite transcendence over spacetime/dimensions is not the same as SCP case

 

[Sus]

can someone ask an expert in mythology?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

So, to answer the question plainly:

Nothing is 1-A in Journey to the West. Just outright, nothing even remotely reaches that.

The only way to get that would be to scale to irl religion, which is not done. It may be part of the myths of that time today, but when JttW was written, is was just a piece of fiction using the "setting". Much like how The Divine Comedy has been very influential over how the Christian hell is viewed, despite the fact that at the time it was an escapist self-insert fanfic.


It also contradicts stuff from mythology, like mountains meant to be millions of miles long being smaller than tens of miles at most.

So no, 1-A Sun Wukong is like tier 0 Bruce Allmighty based off of scaling to God.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

because infinite transcendence over spacetime/dimensions is not the same as SCP case

you do realise the narrative stack contains dimensions in the first place for it to be considered 1A+ in the first place right?

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

So, to answer the question plainly:

Nothing is 1-A in Journey to the West. Just outright, nothing even remotely reaches that.

The only way to get that would be to scale to irl religion, which is not done. It may be part of the myths of that time today, but when JttW was written, is was just a piece of fiction using the "setting". Much like how The Divine Comedy has been very influential over how the Christian hell is viewed, despite the fact that at the time it was an escapist self-insert fanfic.


It also contradicts stuff from mythology, like mountains meant to be millions of miles long being smaller than tens of miles at most.

So no, 1-A Sun Wukong is like tier 0 Bruce Allmighty based off of scaling to God.

we're discussing about mythology which included the Taiji and Wuji . not just the JTTW novel. @Ricsi-viragosi

 

[Sus]

you do realise the narrative stack contains dimensions in the first place for it to be considered 1A+ in the first place right?

yes, that's why it's different

 

[Sus]

anyways both are different verses, is there a knowledgeable member that could answer?

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

anyways both are different verses, is there a knowledgeable member that could answer?

we could ask greatsage but he isn't here.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

we're discussing about mythology. not the JTTW novel

When I said answering the question, I was talking about the one in the OP.

Trying to put a tier on it isn't simply not done due to it being disrespectful. Most if not all religions have a lot of their rules defined by word of mouth, meaning that they will greatly differ in-between different stories.


Trying to make a profile for any religious figure is akin to making a composite superman out of every superman comic unless the tier and abilities are based on just a single scripture or story.

 

[Sus]

When I said answering the question, I was talking about the one in the OP.

Trying to put a tier on it isn't simply not done due to it being disrespectful. Most if not all religions have a lot of their rules defined by word of mouth, meaning that they will greatly differ in-between different stories.


Trying to make a profile for any religious figure is akin to making a composite superman out of every superman comic unless the tier and abilities are based on just a single scripture or story.

okay i think this makes sense, kinda
but from what verse do the 1-A rating come from and why?

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

When I said answering the question, I was talking about the one in the OP.

Trying to put a tier on it isn't simply not done due to it being disrespectful. Most if not all religions have a lot of their rules defined by word of mouth, meaning that they will greatly differ in-between different stories.


Trying to make a profile for any religious figure is akin to making a composite superman out of every superman comic unless the tier and abilities are based on just a single scripture or story.

i mean their is a composite bugs bunny profile tho.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

okay i think this makes sense, kinda
but from what verse do the 1-A rating come from and why?

anything that transcend an infinite stack of dimensions or infinite transcendences in gthe form of reality-fiction

 

[HammerStrikes219]

i mean their is a composite bugs bunny profile tho.

Don’t see it listed on the wiki pages so… must got removed I think.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

Don’t see it listed on the wiki pages so… must got removed I think.

well huge ouch. I thought cartoon profiles were mostly composite.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

i mean their is a composite bugs bunny profile tho.

And do you think that if you grabbed Bugs Bunny from a random episode of Looney Tunes, he could punch you with the power of a nuclear warhead?

Characters with toon force are inconsistent as hell to begin with...

okay i think this makes sense, kinda
but from what verse do the 1-A rating come from and why?

Mostly the transduality part of things. Since it encompasses everything, it can get to 1-A as long as the "everything" is shown to encompass tier 1 stuff.

 

[Sus]

anything that transcend an infinite stack of dimensions or infinite transcendences in gthe form of reality-fiction

u sure? that's pretty much high 1B to me

anyway this can be closed