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Steve (Minecraft) Upgrade

Talonmask

Talonmask

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This is something that has been recently bothering me.

We have the Enderdrago listed at Low 7-C for being able to easily bulldoze through layers of diamond and listed at Subsonic speeds for being faster than shoot, that's fine. However, we list Steve at 8-C for being able to kill and take blows from the dragon, which doesn't make sense based on the dragon's statistics.

Steve is also able to kill the Wither Boss, which is listed at 7-C for being able to destroy 24 blocks of obsidian in one hit.

I propose that Steve receives the following statistics:

Powers and Abilities: (For things not already listed) skilled in archery, resistance to fire via enchantments, can imbue weapons with fire, Attack Reflection via enchantments

Attack Potency: Town level (Capable of killing the Enderdrago and the Wither, which are capable of easily destroying thick layers of diamond or obsidian respectively)

Speed: Normal Human with Subsonic reactions and combat speed (Capable of fighting the Enderdragon)

Striking Strength: Class TJ

Durability: Town level (Can tank blows from the Enderdragon and Wither with little protection), Higher via armor and enchantments
 
This seems reasonble. Just one question: I've never played Minecraft before (just saw some gameplay), but isn't the Enderdragon the strongest boss in the game? If it is, shouldn't it be stronger than the Wither Boss? Or am I wrong about it?
 
KuuIchigo said:
This seems reasonble. Just one question: I've never played Minecraft before (just saw some gameplay), but isn't the Enderdragon the strongest boss in the game? If it is, should it be stronger than the Wither Boss? Or am I wrong about it?
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I think they are the only two bosses in the game, as I don't recall anything else besides those two.
 
Okay. It just seems weird that the Enderdragon is weaker than the Wither Boss. Maybe the Enderdragon can scale to the Witherboss for being the final boss?
 
I suppose that this seems reasonable.
 
I think this should be reasonable enough. I find it hard for an 8-C to do anyhting against a Low 7-C, let alone a 7-C. I could see it if Steve were to do chip damage with MCB or higher AP. Any lower, and it;s not possible to do in anyway if it was even possible to do.
 
I would actually like to hold off on this based on the fact that the Enderdragon feat was never calculated and could very well be lower than what it is placed at. It would be irresponsible of me to insert these statistics until they've been looked over.

However, I would like to see how much it would take to vaporize 24 cubic meters of obsidian based on the Wither's placement, as it actually lists an amount destroyed, contrary to the Enderdragon's placement.

I think this thread should be kept open until then.

So right now, the only thing that should be upgraded is Steve's reactions and the adding of extra abilities.
 
With regards to vaporizing 24 cubic metres of obsidian, is this for Enderdragon, or for Steve?

Substituting obsidian for rock, vaporizing 24 m^3 of obsidian gives us =

24*[100*3]*[27050] = 6.49e11 joules, or 155 tons of TNT.

Speaking of which, what is the fragmentation value of diamond anyways?
 
@Talonmask: Well i guess we could add the extra abilities. Speed i'm a bit iffy since that's technically a stat change that needs to be approved but i don't think it's really that much of an issue so i'm fine with changing that as well.
 
Lina Shields said:
With regards to vaporizing 24 cubic metres of obsidian, is this for Enderdragon, or for Steve?

Substituting obsidian for rock, vaporizing 24 m^3 of obsidian gives us =

24*[100*3]*[27050] = 6.49e11 joules, or 155 tons of TNT.

Speaking of which, what is the fragmentation value of diamond anyways?
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The Obsidian vaporizing is for the Wither, but would scale to both Steve and the Enderdragon, the former for being able to kill it and the latter for being the end-game boss, meaning it should likely be comparable.

8-A, so that would be a downgrade from their current positions, alright.

So we have 8-A Steve (with Subsonic reactions), Wither, and Enderdragon.
 
Well, if you create a blog for the calculation, you can link to that in the Enderdragon profile.
 
What About the Beings at the End of the Game that Talk? they seem like there supposed to be Gods or cosmic Entities and Steve can somhow read there minds
 
That ending relies on a lot of speculation. We don't know anything about them. They don't even shows feats. At best we could say that they view the whole world as a game but even then it's speculation.
 
...Actually re-reading it, it seems like they could have profiles. But I'd rather not derail this thread.
 
For scaling

I'm positive that this should scale to most if not all the characters.

The Enderman actually attacks the Dragon and take its hits. And there is no reasons for the Zombies enemies to be weaker than the Player lore-wise, since they are just zombified version of the player. They can even wear the same kind of armor.

Also, the Wither only vaporizes small amount of blocks. The 24 block thing is Violent Fragmentation. Only the Dragon vaporizes large amount of blocks.
 
Well, since Lina is an accepted member of the calc group, his version of the calculation is probably preferable.
 
I would appreciate a quick explanation.
 
The Wither's profiles on this wiki states that it vaporizes 24 blocks, which is what Lina calced. But actually, the Wither violently fragments these blocks (The profile was thus wrong). So Lina calced something that didn't happen.

Meanwhile I calced the Dragon actually vaporizing a higher amount of blocks.
 
i tested on the knew version of minecraft and the Explosion the wither gives off doesnt destroy the obsidian but it rammed through 27 obsidian blocks
 
Like I said the "crunch" effect only Fragments the blocks, not vaporizes. It's best to focus on the Dragon's ramming attack.
 
I would also appreciate help with this, as I am very busy with the daily backlog myself.
 
I just want this cleared up, so what changes are happening?

It looks like Saikou has a calc, but it doesn't look like it was completely evaluated.
 
I thought that it was resolved, and only waited for the changes to be carried out? But I may misremember.
 
I told Talon that she can at least do the speed change and items(?) addition a while back but i don't recall if she ever changed them or not....
 
I did some calcs on the OBD that would give very low Superhuman speed.

Keep in mind reacting to arrows is not Superhuman, and definitely not Subsonic.
 
Is the Enderdragon currently scaled to subsonic combat speed from reacting to arrows?
 
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