Stellar Blade Discussion Thread

[TheAngryOrange]

I didn't read all the archive notes. I saw something earlier in the thread regarding a country level creation feat mentioned so I can't help with that.

Few things that strike me.
Strength wise.
Eve would scale to a Gigas. She also can fish a whale shark.

AP wise. She should scale to Adam who vaporized providence with a single touch.

I feel she's limited in hax unless it's in the archives. She has a gun that's either automatic rifle, shotgun, artillery launcher, missile launcher, or rail gun. Some energy/electricity manipulation with her sword. Stat amps. Partly from her exospine. Berserker mode with Tachy mode.

Already mentioned but her speed should compare to lightning since abbadon can summon natural lightning. If I recall, those turret drones that you can block fire rail guns so that's also a speed feat.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Yeah, I am def down to help out with indexing P&A's, that is my forte. I suck at calcing lol

 

[Creaturemaster971]

AP wise. She should scale to Adam who vaporized providence with a single touch.

The Providence thing is weird since I'm not entirely sure if he vaporized it or just sent it away, especially since Lily was completely unharmed.

And EVE after fusing with him still had to actually fight Providence for a while until the wing activated.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

The Providence thing is weird since I'm not entirely sure if he vaporized it or just sent it away, especially since Lily was completely unharmed.

And EVE after fusing with him still had to actually fight Providence for a while until the wing activated.

Nah he def deconstructed it. There is no way for him to "send it away" really...not sure what'd that even mean in this context, maybe not literal vaprization but some form of deconstruction for sure. As for EVE's fight with Providence, I think it is very clearly a gameplay thing cuz....let's be real dawg there ain't any reason at all Providence would realistically be one of the hardest fights in the game (I struggled with Providence more than Raven)

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Nah he def deconstructed it. There is no way for him to "send it away" really...not sure what'd that even mean in this context, maybe not literal vaprization but some form of deconstruction for sure. As for EVE's fight with Providence, I think it is very clearly a gameplay thing cuz....let's be real dawg there ain't any reason at all Providence would realistically be one of the hardest fights in the game (I struggled with Providence more than Raven)

True true
I remember someone was saying maybe Lily was just that bad at piloting it. Goes from a side character to a god tier as soon as Mother Sphere starts using it competently

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Which would be a hilarious way to explain it

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

True true
I remember someone was saying maybe Lily was just that bad at piloting it. Goes from a side character to a god tier as soon as Mother Sphere starts using it competently

Yeah lol, plus considering mother sphere can accurately predict the future and arguably all the game's events ig her being that difficult makes sense and if anything would mean EVE was able to bypass her predictions to a degree (which would then explain the ending of her needing to use like all the droids and ships to start attacking EVE)

 

[TheAngryOrange]

Also something to consider about the providence fight is that after Lily falls out, Eve goes all out and was effectively invincible fighting providence. So perhaps the only reason providence was a threat to her after merging with Adam was because she was afraid of hurting Lily in the process.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Also something to consider about the providence fight is that after Lily falls out, Eve goes all out and was effectively invincible fighting providence. So perhaps the only reason providence was a threat to her after merging with Adam was because she was afraid of hurting Lily in the process.

This adds up with the lore yeah, especially considering what happens after she goes all out...which rip

 

[TheAngryOrange]

Speed is something I'm curious about. Does anyone know precisely what the blaster is? Because it's hit scan in game but it has travel in cutscene. If it has the properties of light we can argue that what we saw in cutscene was cinematic flare. If it doesn't, we need to figure out how big that space station is.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Also something to consider about the providence fight is that after Lily falls out, Eve goes all out and was effectively invincible fighting providence. So perhaps the only reason providence was a threat to her after merging with Adam was because she was afraid of hurting Lily in the process.

Ooh, that's also a very good point.

I assumed her Elder Mode just took time to fully integrate into her body but that would imply she's intentionally holding back on using it

 

[HighFlyers77]

Eve Explodes the Space Station

Took a crack at calcing this.

 

[Dalesean027]

Eve Explodes the Space Station

Took a crack at calcing this.

Few problems here we don't do explosions in space so that is completely unusable unfortunately, I'd say if possible actually calculate the actual destruction itself or look for any statements for scaling at worst it gets a far higher if ya can't find a way to do it, otherwise the speed part has no px scaling in the blog itself so you'd want to actually correct that and add the appropriate scans

 

[HighFlyers77]

I’ll adjust soon

 

[HighFlyers77]

Few problems here we don't do explosions in space so that is completely unusable unfortunately, I'd say if possible actually calculate the actual destruction itself or look for any statements for scaling at worst it gets a far higher if ya can't find a way to do it, otherwise the speed part has no px scaling in the blog itself so you'd want to actually correct that and add the appropriate scans

sorry, just got home after work and tried to fix it up quickly. Does it appear any better now?

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Also the space station is a weird feat since it uses the overcharged railgun thing, which iirc is way above EVE's other stats and is specifically for dealing with things above her paygrade

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Also the space station is a weird feat since it uses the overcharged railgun thing, which iirc is way above EVE's other stats and is specifically for dealing with things above her paygrade

True but, at the end of the day it is actually something done through mostly her own strength. So it's fine to add it, smth like (8A physically, 7C with overcharged railgun) not exactly what the stats will be but you get the point

 

[HighFlyers77]

Also the space station is a weird feat since it uses the overcharged railgun thing, which iirc is way above EVE's other stats and is specifically for dealing with things above her paygrade

I’d think she scales. It is charged with her own body’s energy, to the point she fires several shots with it, and the space station feat is performed when her battery is drained.

 

[HighFlyers77]

I updated the blog with a new calc that one of the mods said was fine.

I’m not fully sure what else is required for stuff to get accepted and used or if that’s enough

Eve Space station Explosion

 

[Dalesean027]

I updated the blog with a new calc that one of the mods said was fine.

I’m not fully sure what else is required for stuff to get accepted and used or if that’s enough

Eve Space station Explosion

That's all you need to get that specifc calc approved

 

[HighFlyers77]

That's all you need to get that specifc calc approved

Alright. Well I did the method the mod told me in the comments and he said it was fine

 

[TheAngryOrange]

I'll answer you here rather than my wall.

So if Eve had an existing profile you'd bring up a CRT. But since Eve doesn't have one we just need to finish creating a sandbox profile for Eve then toss it up once it's finished.
From what I've read as long as a profile isn't like super high in terms of AP you don't need a CRT to throw up a new profile.
I haven't seen anyone else's sandbox. So I'll show you what I have.

TheAngryOrange/sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

It's not finished. I'm listing out all the abilities and am working on getting footage of them. Going to read up on the exospines to see if they have anything special listed.

 

[HighFlyers77]

I'll answer you here rather than my wall.

So if Eve had an existing profile you'd bring up a CRT. But since Eve doesn't have one we just need to finish creating a sandbox profile for Eve then toss it up once it's finished.
From what I've read as long as a profile isn't like super high in terms of AP you don't need a CRT to throw up a new profile.
I haven't seen anyone else's sandbox. So I'll show you what I have.

TheAngryOrange/sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

It's not finished. I'm listing out all the abilities and am working on getting footage of them. Going to read up on the exospines to see if they have anything special listed.

If there’s something you need I can try my best to help you. I also mentioned my thoughts on how Eve would scale to this on your wall.

 

[HighFlyers77]

Also, the speed I got on that calc got accepted as well

 

[Dalesean027]

I'll answer you here rather than my wall.

So if Eve had an existing profile you'd bring up a CRT. But since Eve doesn't have one we just need to finish creating a sandbox profile for Eve then toss it up once it's finished.
From what I've read as long as a profile isn't like super high in terms of AP you don't need a CRT to throw up a new profile.
I haven't seen anyone else's sandbox. So I'll show you what I have.

TheAngryOrange/sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

It's not finished. I'm listing out all the abilities and am working on getting footage of them. Going to read up on the exospines to see if they have anything special listed.

Yup that's how it works, however if any scaling involves anything through decent scaling chains it'd need a CRT

Even will need more than this though as she shouldn't scale to her endgame stuff for the whole game

 

[TheAngryOrange]

Would early game and late game work? Or does it have to be early, mid, and late?

Also, HighFlyer. Feel like doing more work? The most impressive thing I can think of early game is that airship crashing onto the brute. It's a size chain scaling. But you can use Eve's height to figure out the drop pod size to figure out the drop pod hole size to figure out the ship size.

 

[Dalesean027]

Would early game and late game work? Or does it have to be early, mid, and late?

Also, HighFlyer. Feel like doing more work? The most impressive thing I can think of early game is that airship crashing onto the brute. It's a size chain scaling. But you can use Eve's height to figure out the drop pod size to figure out the drop pod hole size to figure out the ship size.

That all kinda just depends on the context of the game itself how you treat keys if you need any at all, right now you have a pre-post adam merge which works fine if that's the only substantial power jump of eve in the game narratively

Is this Town+ feat pre or post adam?

 

[HighFlyers77]

Would early game and late game work? Or does it have to be early, mid, and late?

Also, HighFlyer. Feel like doing more work? The most impressive thing I can think of early game is that airship crashing onto the brute. It's a size chain scaling. But you can use Eve's height to figure out the drop pod size to figure out the drop pod hole size to figure out the ship size.

I can give it a shot, although it might not be done super quickly as I’ve a little busier than usual lately. With that said, yeah if I can figure out a good formula for it I can give it a try.

Do you know if Eve has a given height by any chance I’ve struggled to find one before. She seems quite tall.

That all kinda just depends on the context of the game itself how you treat keys if you need any at all, right now you have a pre-post adam merge which works fine if that's the only substantial power jump of eve in the game narratively

Is this Town+ feat pre or post adam?

Pre. It’s like mid game.

 

[HighFlyers77]

@TheAngryOrange Okay, I've done some pixel scaling but I can't really do anything much else until tomorrow night at the latest. I know you can calc so if you can work with any of this I'll leave it here.

For the ship crashing:
Eve Height

For her height, I decided to compare her to this construction cone using the photo mode to get a proper full height stance for her. Each outfit changes her height so I used her default outfit.

I did some research on construction cones and found the two white reflective lines and type commonly used here likely falls under the 28 inch category.
Source:
Source 1 and Source 2
Cone: Green Line = 548 px = 28 inches
Eve: Red Line = 1687 px = 85.7 inches or 2.177 m

It seems tall but Eve is presented as being quite tall in the game anyways I'd say so it doesn't seem far off.

Eve next to Drop Pod:

906 px = 2.177m

1865 px = 4.48 m

Drop Pod Tip size:

731 px = 4.48 m

29 px = 0.18 m

Drop Pod hole size:

64 px = 0.18 m

655 px = 1.84 m

Then:

132 px = 1.84 m

494 px = 6.88 m

Here's something extra I did you might be able to calculate in the mean time. Giga frag the steel wall of the ship pretty well.

Px measurements:

355 px = 6.88 m

49 px = 0.95 m

For the wall:

187 px = 0.95 m

1488 px = 7.6 m

1373 px = 7 m

So a decent size metal hole he made you might be able to work with. If any of this can help just use it for now as I said I won't be available to do anything like this until tomorrow night at the earliest.

 

[HighFlyers77]

Gave this a shot. If any of this gets accepted we can prob upgraded strength and have a start to early game stuff. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:HighFlyers777/Brute_Destroys_Wall_(Stellar_Blade)

 

[HighFlyers77]

Still working on some stuff. However I did find this which might be useful for a possible higher speed end.

Democrawler fires “light beams”, which Eve can dodge and react to.

Democrawler Profile

 

[TheAngryOrange]

Heads up, getting something accepted as light tends to be very finnicky here (I personally feel some verses accepted easier than others). The fact the game calls it light beams should help a lot. Here's what you need to do. The democrawler shoots the beams then sweeps them across the ground, which won't get accepted. You need to stand still in front of the democrawler, then dodge at the right moment. That should be enough to make an argument (maybe. I've had to bring more in the past).

 

[HighFlyers77]

Heads up, getting something accepted as light tends to be very finnicky here (I personally feel some verses accepted easier than others). The fact the game calls it light beams should help a lot. Here's what you need to do. The democrawler shoots the beams then sweeps them across the ground, which won't get accepted. You need to stand still in front of the democrawler, then dodge at the right moment. That should be enough to make an argument (maybe. I've had to bring more in the past).

Yeah I could prob do that, but I’d prob rather find gameplay if possible because, sadly, Stellar Blade doesn’t have chapter select so If my current save is past it I’d have to restart the game until I get there. However I will say on “Story” difficulty it’s literally set up where time slows down and allows you to dodge EVERYTHING even when standing still, so it should be easy to get if I had to.

By the way, I’m trying to get the airship size still, but I’m still figuring it out. It’s a really weird shape.

 

[TheAngryOrange]

You've done the bulk of the word for the airship. I'll get the size.

Also, use the boss replays.

 

[HighFlyers77]

You've done the bulk of the word for the airship. I'll get the size.

Also, use the boss replays.

I completely forgot about the boss replays. Let me do it real quick.

 

[HighFlyers77]

noticed a small issue. The game seems to be programmed with 3 separate beams attacks based on where the player is, and they all seem to be sweeping and not directly aimed at the player. Not sure well this would go over.


Me trying to dodge the beams

However, I did find this. Not sure if it’s useful at all, but this is either referring to the Democrawler or the Demogorgon

They compare the electromagnetic field to the eye of a hurricane

 

[HighFlyers77]

I went through and grabbed as much as I could in terms of profiles and gear. I don't have every single thing unlocked, but I do have a large chunk, so hopefully I got everything I could. Hope there's some good useful stuff in here.

Profiles:

Profiles #1

Profiles #2

Profiles #3

Profiles #4

Gear:

Items #1

Items #2

Clothes

Exospines

Gear #1

Gear #2

Gear #3

Repair Console

If Tachyons are useful, Eve has access to the Tachyon Blade

Alright, I spent awhile getting all of this and putting this together. Would like to note again, I don't have everything, nor everything upgraded, but I have a lot. If you notice there's something I have that I somehow forgot to add in, let me know. Hopefully any of this helps.

 

[HighFlyers77]

Brute Destroys a wall

Got the low end v. frag end accepted. Don't think anything else did. This is for early game.

Edit: Ok I did a test and started trying to calc the vaporization of Providence, but I actually don’t think it would get much higher than what we already have after testing the destruction of just its arms. Providence design is super complicated too so it’s quite hard to actually get the full size of it, despite the work I started putting in. It might be good for KE and Strength calcs possibly though.

 

[Strife304]

I'm very pleased to see what has been done so far, very good work on the calculations.

I got my platinum trophy and with that, have all the data logs, collectibles, and upgrades. So, I'll see what more i can add to what we have here.

Also, the Stellar Blade x Nikke collab trailer dropped, we are definitely getting more stuff to scale from this:

 

[HighFlyers77]

I saw. She dodges some sort of laser in the PC trailer too. We’ll have to wait and see if that has any statements.