Stat Changes and Upgrades for Scream Characters

[GreshPnk]

The reason I made this thread is because many of the stats are incoherent. Let me elaborate on each of them.

Mickey Altieri: Mickey's AP should scale higher than 375 J via this feat. His combat/reaction (C/R) speed should scale to Sidney’s as he keeps up with her (4:16-4:19) (4:23-4:25) (4:25-4:29) and overpowers her defenses during their fight

Nancy Loomis: Nancy should scales to Mickey's C/R via this feat (0:02-0:05)

Charlie Walker: Charlie should at least be comparable to Mickey's AP, via this feat (0:32-0:35). Even though it's off-screen, in my opinion, it should scale to at least 2–3 kJ.

Richie and Amber: Richie should scales to Sam's AP, since he managed to harm her here (1:54-1:55) and here (2:56-3:03). Amber should scales to this value via inverse with Tara - Amber was able to hospitalize Tara, yet a weakened Tara still managed to harm Richie here (3:10–3:11).

Small note: in my opinion all Ghostfaces' AP should be higher than the minimum of 375 Joules. This value, as stated on VS Battles Wiki, is derived from:
“A bone of a deceased 52-year-old woman only required 375 Joules of energy when the force was applied within five degrees of the orientation of the collagen fibers.”
But let’s be real — that’s a pretty low-end benchmark. A common feat, like Amber Freeman breaking Tara’s leg, should easily scale above 375 J. Tara is not a 52-year-old deceased woman.

If you have anything to add or change, free to comment

Votes:
Those who agree:
Those who disagree:
Those who are neutral: @Johi13

 

[Johi13]

from a glance everything seems fine. its just difficult to see how jill,ethan,quinn (currently list as 360J/300J) could scale to the bone breaking value as a slightly weakened jill only kept up with a weakened sidney/dewey with a bedpan and a relativley healthy quinn could only manage to barley match a heavily wounded gale. tho there are these 2 scenes (for jill and quinn) 5:24 and 4:25 (tho both are probably very debunkable) ill currently go with being neutral.

 

[GreshPnk]

from a glance everything seems fine. its just difficult to see how jill,ethan,quinn (currently list as 360J/300J) could scale to the bone breaking value as a slightly weakened jill only kept up with a weakened sidney/dewey with a bedpan and a relativley healthy quinn could only manage to barley match a heavily wounded gale. tho there are these 2 scenes (for jill and quinn) 5:24 and 4:25 (tho both are probably very debunkable) ill currently go with being neutral.

thanks for sharing opinion, counted

 

[GreshPnk]

from a glance everything seems fine. its just difficult to see how jill,ethan,quinn (currently list as 360J/300J) could scale to the bone breaking value as a slightly weakened jill only kept up with a weakened sidney/dewey with a bedpan and a relativley healthy quinn could only manage to barley match a heavily wounded gale. tho there are these 2 scenes (for jill and quinn) 5:24 and 4:25 (tho both are probably very debunkable) ill currently go with being neutral.

even with no 360-375J change, other stuff should sound pretty realistic

 

[Mat_Content_World]

I agree

 

[HorrorHistory]

Mickey Altieri: Mickey's AP should scale higher than 375 J via this feat.

This feat hasn’t been evaluated.

His combat/reaction (C/R) speed should scale to Sidney’s as he keeps up with her (4:16-4:19) (4:23-4:25) (4:25-4:29) and overpowers her defenses during their fight

This just shows his superior running speed, which isn’t the same as reaction or combat speed.

Nancy Loomis: Nancy should scales to Mickey's C/R via this feat (0:02-0:05)

She raises her gun at an unalerted Mickey and fires, that doesn’t really scale her to his speed.

Charlie Walker: Charlie should at least be comparable to Mickey's AP, via this feat (0:32-0:35). Even though it's off-screen, in my opinion, it should scale to at least 2–3 kJ.

You’d need to calculate that. Well I already have but there’s some changes I need to make.

Richie and Amber: Richie should scales to Sam's AP, since he managed to harm her here (1:54-1:55) and here (2:56-3:03). Amber should scales to this value via inverse with Tara - Amber was able to hospitalize Tara, yet a weakened Tara still managed to harm Richie here (3:10–3:11).

Feats like these aren’t really grounds for an upgrade due to inconsistencies in the tiering system.

Small note: in my opinion all Ghostfaces' AP should be higher than the minimum of 375 Joules. This value, as stated on VS Battles Wiki, is derived from:
“A bone of a deceased 52-year-old woman only required 375 Joules of energy when the force was applied within five degrees of the orientation of the collagen fibers.”
But let’s be real — that’s a pretty low-end benchmark. A common feat, like Amber Freeman breaking Tara’s leg, should easily scale above 375 J. Tara is not a 52-year-old deceased woman.

This is just a reference point for how much energy it takes to break a bone under certain conditions, it’s not about the person per se. 375 J is the minimum, 9920 J is the maximum.

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

I think Horror History's points should be addressed.

 

[GreshPnk]

I think Horror History's points should be addressed.

I agree

 

[GreshPnk]

She raises her gun at an unalerted Mickey and fires, that doesn’t really scale her to his speed.

My bad, so this count as attack speed?

You’d need to calculate that. Well I already have but there’s some changes I need to make.

I had one calc but probably the value can go lower since he himself not sure about glass tensile strength

calculation
Marielle Jeffe height is 170cm so her head height should be 22.7cm according to a human anatomy calculator
https://hpc.anatomy4sculptors.com/
22.7/162=0,140123457
1px=0,140123457cm
The windows height is
621 px
621 x 0,140123457 =87,0166668 cm

Length
637 px
637 x 0,140123457= 89,2586421 cm

Radius:
Using her head height and width
Then the Area would be
22.7x16.2=367.74cm
So the radius should be
10.8192 cm

Area of the window:
87,0166668 x 89,2586421 = 7.766,98952 cm =0.776699m2
MPa:
Tensile strength of annealed glass is 7 MPa according to wikipedia
7/10,8192^0.5=2,12814133 =2128141,33 n/m2

Energy= 2128141,33 x 0.776699 = 1.652.925,24 Newtons
1.652.925,24 x 0.00238125 = 3.936,02823J (Street level)

Feats like these aren’t really grounds for an upgrade due to inconsistencies in the tiering system.

can you elaborate here?

 

[HorrorHistory]

My bad, so this count as attack speed?

I don’t think it’s speed at all since all she does is raise her gun and shoots at Mickey, who’s unaltered.

I had one calc but probably the value can go lower since he himself not sure about glass tensile strength

calculation
Marielle Jeffe height is 170cm so her head height should be 22.7cm according to a human anatomy calculator
https://hpc.anatomy4sculptors.com/
22.7/162=0,140123457
1px=0,140123457cm
The windows height is
621 px
621 x 0,140123457 =87,0166668 cm

Length
637 px
637 x 0,140123457= 89,2586421 cm

Radius:
Using her head height and width
Then the Area would be
22.7x16.2=367.74cm
So the radius should be
10.8192 cm

Area of the window:
87,0166668 x 89,2586421 = 7.766,98952 cm =0.776699m2
MPa:
Tensile strength of annealed glass is 7 MPa according to wikipedia
7/10,8192^0.5=2,12814133 =2128141,33 n/m2

Energy= 2128141,33 x 0.776699 = 1.652.925,24 Newtons
1.652.925,24 x 0.00238125 = 3.936,02823J (Street level)

You should probably put this into a blog and get it evaluated.

can you elaborate here?

It’s best to ask @Mr. Bambu since I’m not all too knowledgeable for this.